Miter tool

[tom coffey]

I know I might get scolded (again) for posting this piece of junk because it's not very vintage, but here it is.
I bought it used, cheap a few years ago. I now have a new to me storage building and am moving some of my stuff from my garage to the new space. This will have a place on the wall where I can see, and access it.
Apparently there is a piece, or two missing that I was not aware of. It/they would be clamp(s) to hold the work when sawing.

 

[RTM]

Miter Box, at a glance I would guess Stanley made due to the top piece. Looking around the Stanley 60-70's catalogs, not seeing its twin, so maybe not. The OEM list says 881 is HEMPE, no idea who they are. The saw should be 24 - 30" long, based on normal miter boxes, but it depends on paragraph 3.

The work holding piece is often your off hand. Most did not come with one in the vintage days. Some have clamps for holding crown moulding at the right angle, not sure about truly holding a wide board 4" plus.

Finding the right sized saw to work with it might be a challenge, you will need to look down through the red pieces to see if there are any restrictions on what will work. The old Millers Falls boxes posted in other threads will only work with a saw 1" shorter than it was built for.

 

[Lesserstore]

Hempe was founded in 1929, and made miter boxes until 2000, when they were bought out by Empire Level, who continued to make them until 2016.

History of Hempe, Maker of Wooden Clamps

https://www.jlconline.com/tools/fastening-tools/power-tools/milwaukee-to-buy-empire-level_o

 

[akasrick]

I know I might get scolded (again) for posting this piece of junk because it's not very vintage, but here it is.
I bought it used, cheap a few years ago. I now have a new to me storage building and am moving some of my stuff from my garage to the new space. This will have a place on the wall where I can see, and access it.
Apparently there is a piece, or two missing that I was not aware of. It/they would be clamp(s) to hold the work when sawing.

Closest number, Sears Craftsman 1968 power and hand tools catalog, shows the rectanglar bed on all models.

akasrick

 

[WisJim]

I had a Hempe miter box and saw similar to this that I bought new in the late 1970s at a local hardware store. Sold it at a garage sale a year or two ago as I found a nice Millers Falls one. My Hempe had a stop rod and bracket that is shown in the Craftsman ad above. There was only one of them, not two like the ad shows, and there wasn't any kind of hold down clamp.

 

[akasrick]

Closest number, Sears Craftsman 1968 power and hand tools catalog, shows the rectanglar bed on all models.

akasrick

tom coffey wrote:

Apparently there is a piece, or two missing that I was not aware of. It/they would be clamp(s) to hold the work when sawing.



RTM wrote:
Miter Box, at a glance I would guess Stanley made due to the top piece. Looking around the Stanley 60-70's catalogs, not seeing its twin, so maybe not. The OEM list says 881 is HEMPE



Stanley's take on the holddowns.

akasrick

 

[akasrick]

Stanley part list.


akasrick

 

[tom coffey]

I found a parts diagram. Parts 34 & 35 are what I don't have.

 

[RTM]

Can’t help there, but at least it tells you what size saw you need.

 

[rharman]

I have that same miter box with saw and clamp. I recall it only came with one.

 

[tom coffey]

Looks like another one for the scrap heap. The saw is special for the frame and I will probably never find the saw separately.

 

[RTM]

Looking at the cover of the manual, I doubt it is anything special. Looks like a regular miter box saw. What makes you think it's special for the frame?

Sears Craftsman Miter Box Operating Instructions, Repair Parts : Model No. 881.36303 : Sears, Roebuck & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

4 p., illus., cm, instruction manual

archive.org

 

[cvairwerks]

Couple of F or C clamps and it will work fine.

 

[akasrick]

Looks like another one for the scrap heap. The saw is special for the frame and I will probably never find the saw separately.

If you buy a vintage 26" (4" ?) saw off of Ebay you will problem find one in the wild the next time you flea market.

akasrick

 

[WisJim]

too bad you're not close to me

 

[RTM]

too bad you're not close to me

Yup, that looks like the thing he needs. My 4x24 is saved for my Marsh miter box

 

[akasrick]

What the hay. In the spirit of things. Feeling dull, rusty and...inadequate, at a mere !6"s.
Used the legs for a display, the paper hides a bed of shame and I still couldn't trash the miter box.
I never know when the Ryobi will take a ****.



akasrick

 

[RTM]

Used the legs for a display, the paper hides a bed of shame


on some miter saw, the wood is a sacrificial piece, to prevent your saw from getting chewed up in the metal base

on some miter saw, the wood is a sacrificial piece, to prevent your saw from getting chewed up in the metal base