MMI Orlando Harley Davidson Program questions

[VACharvel]

Hey...joined up yesterday and am incredibly impressed with the knowledge and years of experience that I have found from this site...very good inforrmation.

Anyway, I am planning on attending the UTI Motorcycle Mechanics Institute for their Harley Davidson mechanic program with both the early and late model electives. Once the new Post 9/11 GI BIll is changed to allow non-degree programs, I'm enrolling for the next available class.

The new Post 9/11 GI Bill is awesome....because the school is in Florida, it will be paid in full with no out of pocket $ from me for tuition (MMI is expensive), and I'll also get about $1500 a month for living expenses while I'm there and if I get a roomate, that will leave plenty for food, gas, entertainment etc. each month and I won't have to work while I'm there.

I'm in a strange situation in that I'm a medically retired US Marine with a little over 14 years of service and disabled due to PTSD and other physical disabilities. I just want to attend MMI to increase my knowledge on Harley's and once I get home, buy a lift and a air compressor and set up my home garage. I plan on working on my bike and those of my buddies in my spare time, and also building some kit bikes for re-sale also around 2-3 a year or so.

I've been looking at and researching the SEP program Snap-on has for students and have pretty much figured out what I want to start my tool collection.

Here is where I need your advice, and also important to note my tool budget for the 14 months is appox $20K while I'm there.

I've decided to grab the following (tentatively):

9200AGSO Master Tech Starter (Apprentice set w/GS20 addon group)
9000GS3O add on set
Sepstarter Set
Sepcore (I believe we get that as part of the program included w tuition and not part of the $7500 limit)
SEPFAR7200K 3/8" Dr air ratchet set w/sockets
SEPMG725K 1/2" Dr impact gun set w/sockets
AT803K 3/8" reversable air drill kit
KRSC31 utility roll cart

That will pretty much wipe out my $7500 max SEP program budget from Snap-on, but I feel that is a good nucleus to build upon. This will include the most used 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" socket drivers and accessories, screwdrivers, punches/chisels etc.).

If I can swing it with the rep, I also want to purchase the KRA2411 roll cabinet if one of the other students doesn't buy one or whatever...I dunno...I think I can make it happen at the student price. I'm gonna try.

The rest of the tools I want/need will probably be from Mac and Matco, depending on who(m) gives the better deal and treats me right...I'm planning on spending a LOT of $$ on tools when I'm in school.

I have no ambitions or desire to work professionally...this is just going to be a hobby for me. I want to re-do my bike and help my friends out if possible and avoid them the $70+$/hr bench fee at our local Harley dealer, and I'll be factory certified and hopefully knock out as many as the PhD classes I can while I'm there at MMI.

What are some of your recommendations with my above list, yes/no on my choices, or anything I'm forgetting....when I come home I'm buying a motorcycle lift and a good air compressor along with shop storage and workbench(es) aslo to complete my setup (well, it's never really "complete" is it lol!!).

Thanks...

Hope to hear your responses.

 

[krusty the clown]

if it were me, i would get basic hand tools and spend the bulk of the money on tool's from jims. brand of course will be your decicion and i'm a snappy fan so that seems like a good choice, but since you aren't planning on a career you might consider other brands as well (US made of course).

 

[VACharvel]

Thanks....Jims is a great resource for Harley specific tools...I've checked their website and they have some nice schtuff.....

I love Snap-on ratchets, IMO they are (arguably) the best...for feel, fine tooth action, durability...they are hard to beat.

I was just thinking that it may be cheaper in the long run to purchase the "sets" under the SEP program to build the base from which to build upon for the most commonly used tools....

I've checked the MAC site out and they have a similar program for students....I'm not a huge fan of their ratchets but have had good results from their sockets. The return policy and warranty are hit or miss, largely due to your representative I think....but their deal is that if the tool retail price is at least $100 w/o tax, you can get 50% off which is a good deal IMO for a warrantied tool...

Sarge

 

[krusty the clown]

sarge, if you have decided on a truck brand for hand tools, then get the snap on while you can get the student discount. although there is quite a lot of import's being introduced in thier product line, it's far less than MAC and MATCO and not in thier regular hardline like the others. i don't know if cornwell offers student discount's but it is a good US made option as well.

 

[X1 Mike]

MMI has a Snap-On guy on site so it's really easy to buy from them. They are limited on what they are supposed to sell you so make friends with him so he sells you more, you will never beat the half off price.

A great source to get Jims tools or Motion Pro tools for cheap is to get a part time job at the local Harley dealer and get an employee discount. I worked at Orlando Harley in the rental department and had a free bike to ride at all times, and bought a decent amount of tools.

 

[Mickey O]

I don't know what is included in all those sets you've listed, so I can't comment, but I'd skip the 3/8" Dr air ratchet. Some might depend on the what years the bikes you will be working on are, I don't know if the newest generation has gone metric or not. Prior to that almost everything on them is SAE.

I would get:
1/2" impact and sockets
hex bits 3/8" drive, both regular and ball, long and short, a variety of hex L wrench sets
a variety of torx, male and female (I'd buy just the ones needed)
snap ring pliers set
torque wrenches (inch and foot pound)
dead blow hammer
small soft face hammer
drift pin set
wobble head extensions (you'll thank me later)
mag base dial indicator
some pry bars and gasket scrapers
nut driver set
veneer caliper
multi-meter
gator grip socket*
Tap & die, thread cleaner set (remove loctite to get proper torque readings)
6 point socket sets and ratchets, you'll also need some 12 points for a few things (buy as needed)
combination wrench set
some specific line wrenches and the specialty tools as needed (some you can make yourself).









*Just kidding about the gator grip.

 

[krusty the clown]

both cornwell and mac are jim's dealers, mac has motionpro as well. i'm sure they are higher than you could find elsewhere but easier if you have a dealer.

 

[X1 Mike]

Couple more things:

I didn't notice the 3/8" air ratchet, I personally wouldn't bother.

For power tools I would get the 3/8" and 1/2" Snappy cordless impact if you get the discount. The 1/2" is a bad S.O.B. About the tightest bolt you will ever get on an H-D is the compensator sprocket and I have never seen the S-O fail to remove one.

Handy will give graduates $100 off on a lift.

I would choose all 12 pt sockets to start with, too many H-D fasteners require them.

Torx screwdrivers, needed for hand controls.
#2 cabinet screwdriver, for seat bolts on bikes with tourpacks.
Torque adapters, can get under frame rails to secure rocker boxes.

There is plenty more I'll think of later. As you go through classes ask the instructors what they think you should get. As far as instructors listen to every word Bob Drapp and Jimmy Mac say. Both good guys and both know their stuff

 

[VACharvel]

Thanks...

I may re-consider the 3/8" air ratchet set....the only thing that really drew me to it was the price and it includes a bunch of sockets with the set and all for around $500 or so and includes the following:

Description:
3/8" Drive Air Ratchet and Socket Sets, 5-70 ft. lbs. and 260rpm. 3/8" drive metric shallow impact swivel sockets (7 pc.) (10 – 18mm, excluding 11 & 16mm), 3/8" drive standard shallow impact swivel sockets (5 pc.) ( 7/16"– 3/4")

I'm excited about the class and probably wont buy more tools other than my initial "basics" to get me started until I start the late-model elective to get the other required tools for Harley's...I have a pretty extensive list of "want to have's" along with the above listed sets.

Mac has a pretty good student program as long as they are over $100 w/o tax you get the 50% discount....many of my smaller items and pullers will probably come from them if Snap-on won't give the discount....

I'll never be a "pro" tech as I'm 100% VA disabled and also Social Security Disabled due to PTSD from combat tours...but I'm fortunate that I really don't have a budget constraint but plan on around $20K or so for my tools...when I get home I plan to hit the ground running and order a kit to build waiting on me when I get home.

I wasn't aware of the lift discount...I'm planning on a full sized air lift for my garage and probably go with Craftsman storage and benches to round everything out....like I said, this is gonna be a hobby....I'm not planning on wrenching at a Harley dealership.

 

[expatriated]

Sarge--I've got nothing to add, I learn about 1,000 times more than I can contribute here. I'm also a BMW guy so I know nothing about HD's. I just wanted to say welcome to the board and thanks for your service. Sounds like you've been through some stuff. I wish you the best and post your experiences as you go through school. I, for one, will find it interesting.

 

[X1 Mike]

I forgot to add that, like expat said thanks for your service. You will probably have a couple other vets your age in class with you. You deserve all the benefits they give you.

 

[Scooterfish]

Thanks for your service and welcome to GJ. You may want to look at another site I belong to. harlrytechtalk.org Lots of info there, also look at georges garage for tools on the same site.

 

[VACharvel]

I've actually thought of doing a blog while I am attending MMI in Orlando...the first 36 weeks is the prerequistie portion of the school where it covers basic theory of all the major systems and components of the motorcycle...then, after that portion, you can "specialize" in either US or Metric (or both if you desire) products.

The Harley portion is broken down to 2 classes, the "early" model's and then the "modern/late" model Harley's...I'm taking both....there are a lot of older bikes around here.

Thanks for the welcome...and honestly, I'd do it over again in a heartbeat if I could serve some more....I miss it terribly....the cammaradarie is just something you can't explain if you havent' been a Marine.

I'm frustrated that the VA is always screwing us over, or making the benefits so difficult to qualify for or obtain that many Veteran's simply give up and roll over. Me, I'm persistant and a pain-in-the-***...I'm sure my Senator's and Congressman are sick of hearing from me via correspondence, but I really don't care....the system is broken and only if we as a group of Veteran's scream till we're heard will they change anything for the better...I will NOT give up.

 

[Pappa Ugg]

Also for specialty tools check out George's Garage.. they have many of the same tools, well made and a little cheaper.

http://www.georges-garage.com/


and thanks for your service....



Good Luck,
Mike

 

[Skyline]

I'm frustrated that the VA is always screwing us over, or making the benefits so difficult to qualify for or obtain that many Veteran's simply give up and roll over. Me, I'm persistant and a pain-in-the-***...I'm sure my Senator's and Congressman are sick of hearing from me via correspondence, but I really don't care....the system is broken and only if we as a group of Veteran's scream till we're heard will they change anything for the better...I will NOT give up.

First of all, thank you for your service. Clearly you gave more than bargained for.

Second, while you complain about vets benefits, I think you are certainly stretching the intent of the GI Bill by using it for something to augment your hobby, as opposed to a future career. Not to mention the thought of possibly jeopardizing your disability benefits by proving that you are able to attend a tech school. I think this is a bit of a contradiction.

Given your love for motorcycles, you really should not rule out trying to make a career of it. There are plenty of folks out there who would hire a disabled vet, especially one with good training, and especially in the Harley community. And if your disablity is such that it allows you to get the job done at UTI, my guess is you'd be a great asset to some shop in the marketplace.

But on the tool subject, it's pretty hard to beat the student discounts, but I think you can do even better getting a used KRL box as opposed to a new KRA.

 

[VACharvel]

I am 100& disabled by the VA for PTSD alone, but not listed as "unemployable" so I could, if I wanted to in the future, work and still retain my 100% VA comp and my retirement....the VA could care less what I do or not do as far as employment....the only time you can't work is if you are 100% unemployable then they check pay records with the IRS periodically.

As far as the "intent" of the GI Bill, there is no exclusion for those of us with service connected disabilities in using the benefits which we, incidentally, paid for in the sum of $1200 and I think with my 14+ years of service and combat tours, I have earned whatever benefits I can get from them at this point in my life...the new Post 9/11 GI Bill enhances the benefits for most Vets...not me yet unfortunately in that they aren't recognizing non-degree programs of study under the new Bill yet.

If you are a Veteran, I certainly hope you have had better luck and success in navigating the broken burearocracy that is the VA than I have. If you aren't a Veteran, I wonder if you realize how difficult they make getting anything that we deserve by miles of red-tape and criteria so difficult to meet that it's nearly impossible and many Veteran's simply give up.

I could easily pay my tuition, live well, and purchase $20K of tools on my own if I wanted to and enroll tomorrow in MMI...but why should I? I'm letting them pay for my education and lodging/expenses and a small portion of my tools, I will kick in the rest of "my" money to subsidise it up to around $20K. I'm not asking for anything I didn't earn nor pay for. I put my time in and deployed a lot in defense of our freedom.

 

[toymn6366]

I am 100& disabled by the VA for PTSD alone, but not listed as "unemployable" so I could, if I wanted to in the future, work and still retain my 100% VA comp and my retirement....the VA could care less what I do or not do as far as employment....the only time you can't work is if you are 100% unemployable then they check pay records with the IRS periodically.

As far as the "intent" of the GI Bill, there is no exclusion for those of us with service connected disabilities in using the benefits which we, incidentally, paid for in the sum of $1200 and I think with my 14+ years of service and combat tours, I have earned whatever benefits I can get from them at this point in my life...the new Post 9/11 GI Bill enhances the benefits for most Vets...not me yet unfortunately in that they aren't recognizing non-degree programs of study under the new Bill yet.

If you are a Veteran, I certainly hope you have had better luck and success in navigating the broken burearocracy that is the VA than I have. If you aren't a Veteran, I wonder if you realize how difficult they make getting anything that we deserve by miles of red-tape and criteria so difficult to meet that it's nearly impossible and many Veteran's simply give up.

I could easily pay my tuition, live well, and purchase $20K of tools on my own if I wanted to and enroll tomorrow in MMI...but why should I? I'm letting them pay for my education and lodging/expenses and a small portion of my tools, I will kick in the rest of "my" money to subsidise it up to around $20K. I'm not asking for anything I didn't earn nor pay for. I put my time in and deployed a lot in defense of our freedom.

amen brother my wife has to go to the VA with me now when i go about some hearing loss to keep me calm and from geting locked up they think they can talk to you anyway they want to i aint puting up with that bulls#&t

 

[devilphrog]

I am 100& disabled by the VA for PTSD alone, but not listed as "unemployable" so I could, if I wanted to in the future, work and still retain my 100% VA comp and my retirement....the VA could care less what I do or not do as far as employment....the only time you can't work is if you are 100% unemployable then they check pay records with the IRS periodically.

As far as the "intent" of the GI Bill, there is no exclusion for those of us with service connected disabilities in using the benefits which we, incidentally, paid for in the sum of $1200 and I think with my 14+ years of service and combat tours, I have earned whatever benefits I can get from them at this point in my life...the new Post 9/11 GI Bill enhances the benefits for most Vets...not me yet unfortunately in that they aren't recognizing non-degree programs of study under the new Bill yet.

If you are a Veteran, I certainly hope you have had better luck and success in navigating the broken burearocracy that is the VA than I have. If you aren't a Veteran, I wonder if you realize how difficult they make getting anything that we deserve by miles of red-tape and criteria so difficult to meet that it's nearly impossible and many Veteran's simply give up.

I could easily pay my tuition, live well, and purchase $20K of tools on my own if I wanted to and enroll tomorrow in MMI...but why should I? I'm letting them pay for my education and lodging/expenses and a small portion of my tools, I will kick in the rest of "my" money to subsidise it up to around $20K. I'm not asking for anything I didn't earn nor pay for. I put my time in and deployed a lot in defense of our freedom.

Hey VACharvel. I too am a former Marine and OIF Veteran navigating the mess known as the Post 9/11 GI Bill. Put in my package August 1 and they just last week paid my University Tuition. Still waiting on my BAH money though. I went to UTI's NASCAR Tech before enlisting back in '02, and learned a lot about automotive systems before I decided to make the "career jump."

 

[VACharvel]

I'm excited about going to MMI but I can wait...I have time...and Congress is getting a LOT of pressure from Veteran's Groups and Congressman/Senator's asking exactly why technical and trade school's were omitted from the new bill known as the Post 9/11 GI Bill. The newest VSO that is really doing great things is the IAVA (Iraq/Afghanistan Veteran's Association) who put the VA in the ropes prior to the GI Bill being signed into law and legislation.

I could tell you horror stories of what the VA has done to me and how I've been treated....I got "admitted" re: locked up twice as a inpatient for PTSD in Selma, Virginia (that's a experience).

I've been beating up both Senator Webb (one of the originators of the new Bill) and my local Congressman Rick Boucher on this matter....I won't stop until it's changed...this isn't just about me...this is about all Vet's who are eligible for the new benefits and those that are still deployed or active duty. It's too important....

 

[devilphrog]

Agreed. As a member of the IAVA they have been instrumental in getting the new benefits as far as they have gotten recently. I do have to plug them big time here and all Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans should become members, and supporters of our newest generation of Warriors and Veterans should become supporters. http://iava.org

 

[Skyline]

I'm excited about going to MMI but I can wait...I have time...and Congress is getting a LOT of pressure from Veteran's Groups and Congressman/Senator's asking exactly why technical and trade school's were omitted from the new bill known as the Post 9/11 GI Bill. The newest VSO that is really doing great things is the IAVA (Iraq/Afghanistan Veteran's Association) who put the VA in the ropes prior to the GI Bill being signed into law and legislation.

I could tell you horror stories of what the VA has done to me and how I've been treated....I got "admitted" re: locked up twice as a inpatient for PTSD in Selma, Virginia (that's a experience).

I've been beating up both Senator Webb (one of the originators of the new Bill) and my local Congressman Rick Boucher on this matter....I won't stop until it's changed...this isn't just about me...this is about all Vet's who are eligible for the new benefits and those that are still deployed or active duty. It's too important....

It makes no sense to exclude technical schools. While I think that there are those in the military that might want to complete a college education, and that's great, I think far more would be interested in technical training. The bottom line should be helping our service men and women achieve their preferred career post military and to help them to earn a good living.

 

[VACharvel]

It makes no sense to exclude technical schools. While I think that there are those in the military that might want to complete a college education, and that's great, I think far more would be interested in technical training. The bottom line should be helping our service men and women achieve their preferred career post military and to help them to earn a good living.

Agreed wholeheartedly, and I commend those that are pursuing Associate, Bachelor, and higher degrees...go for it. you've earned it.

I can't comprehend why they omitted trade/technical schools...many others can't either...that's why I've been screaming so loudly as I don't think it's fair.

I do have one point of contention though....many Veteran's are either severely disabled or impaired by physical, emotional and mental issues, or sadly both....I don't feel they should be neglected or omitted from going to a school or program they desire to benefit them and increase the quality of their life due to their service and sacrifice. That I don't agree with or support. They, above all, deserve whatever benefits they have coming to them from their sacrifice.

 

[Old Donn]

I don't know what is included in all those sets you've listed, so I can't comment, but I'd skip the 3/8" Dr air ratchet. Some might depend on the what years the bikes you will be working on are, I don't know if the newest generation has gone metric or not. Prior to that almost everything on them is SAE.

FYI Mickey, my 1980 Sportster's about 50/50 metric & SAE.

Aside to MACharvel. HOO-RAH from an old Army guy.
Donn, US Army 1st ID Vietnam 1969-70

 

[VACharvel]

I just got some confirmation from the Snap-On rep at the school in Orlando.

The max limit on hand-tool's a student can purchase is $7500, then you are allowed one roll cab and top, or roll cab and service cart.

I've decided upon the KRA2411 54" 11 drawer roll cab as my main storage and I'll probably get the KRSC31 service cart to roll around my garage.

The US Set #2 with the GS30 add-on group features a combination of both SAE and metric sockets and wrenches.

Like Old Donn said, not all nuts/bolts on a Harley is SAE.

 

[Toolhorder]

Having gone through a Motorcycle school program and worked at a Harley and Honda motorcycle shop I would encourage you to rethink what you are doing and talk to people already doing what you want to do first. No offense I don't want to talk down your dreams but it's a rough time to be trying to be a motorcycle mechanic. Nobody has the money to buy bikes right now and they'll fix a car before a motorcycle to get around with. You can get the same education at a community college and save $20K. I went through a program locally for next to nothing as I was unemployed at the time. After two years of the program I was making $15 an hour at Honda working in substandard conditions with no A/C in the summer and no heat in the winter. I didn't even get uniforms provided. I left that place to work at Harley and was just as quickly booted because I didn't fit the Harley "lifestyle" because I rode a Yamaha. They did have a nice shop though.
I understand uncle sam is paying for what you are doing but I would just research it as much as possible. Motorcycle techs don't make any money compared to auto techs so I went back to autos. The whole Harley crowd is rough to fit into too if you're not brainwashed that Harley's are the most awesome thing since sliced bread. Don't get me wrong I like motorcycles and Harley's are fine for what they are but I don't buy into trends because everyone else thinks sometimes cool right now. I didn't tattoo arm sleeves and pick up a wrench on a Harley because Jesse James got a tv show.
If I could do it all over again I wouldn't have done it. Especially focusing on Harley's. They're like a big Briggs and Stratton engine and about as reliable.
In my short time at Harley I must have seen 2-3 bikes with blown up S&S engines, everyone of them had leaks when coming in for service. The most amount of time you'll be tightening EVERY bolt on bikes with locktite and installing garbage accessories.

 

[VACharvel]

Thanks Toolhorder...

Fortunately, in some ways, I don't need to worry about working due to being retired and VA compensation, I make enough to live quite comfortably on. I "worked" for 14 years, taking orders from others, being shot at, and picking off pieces of what used to be my friends off of me....no thanks....I answer to no man now...

I ride a Harley, most of my buddies ride...am I ********* HD...no...I love all bikes, I don't look down on anybody for what they ride...it's about the freedom, what you ride doesn't matter to me.

I'm almost 40 years old, have a teenage daughter, wife, nice house, I have way too much to lose by adhering to the traditional 1% bikers...I don't belong to a club and wear no colors...we're a group of maybe 10 bikes at max rolling around.

I just want to build bikes, work on mine and my friends bikes....make new friends....and enjoy what time I have left....planning a Sturgis run next year with my friends, hitting Daytona, Myrtle Beach, Cherokee NC....maybe a few local rallies....just having fun.

I told my friends at the local Harley dealership what I was planning on doing and they offered me a tech job at like $10/hr to start out...ummm, why? I have no desire to be a professional tech to work for others, just myself...MMI will give me that education and experience and confidence to work in my garage at my pace with no pressure. If I need a break I can take a ride, play with my dogs...whatever....

 

[Old Donn]

Aside to Toolhoarder. I'm not gonna get into name calling, you prefer Jap bikes, that's up to you, but c'mon. What do you suppose would happen if you worked at Ford and drove a Toyota? Or a Yamaha shop and rode a Harley? Lifestyle? How about biting the hand that feeds you.

 

[Toolhorder]

What do you suppose would happen if you worked at Ford and drove a Toyota? Or a Yamaha shop and rode a Harley? Lifestyle? How about biting the hand that feeds you.

I know from working at car dealers they don't care what you drive to work in. That's my point.

My comments were based on my experience. That doesn't mean I'm attacking Harley people. I owned a Harley and they treated me with contempt you wouldn't even believe. I never said I prefered one bike over another when I worked there and all I did was ride to work on a vintage Yamaha and the head mechanic ex-con told them to fire me because I wasn't riding a hog.
He didn't even know I had one in my garage.

To the OP,
That Harley dealer I worked for is belly up now. A million dollar shop sits empty...think about it is all I'm saying

 

[Toolhorder]

Thanks Toolhorder...

Fortunately, in some ways, I don't need to worry about working due to being retired and VA compensation, I make enough to live quite comfortably on. I "worked" for 14 years, taking orders from others, being shot at, and picking off pieces of what used to be my friends off of me....no thanks....I answer to no man now...

I ride a Harley, most of my buddies ride...am I ********* HD...no...I love all bikes, I don't look down on anybody for what they ride...it's about the freedom, what you ride doesn't matter to me.

I'm almost 40 years old, have a teenage daughter, wife, nice house, I have way too much to lose by adhering to the traditional 1% bikers...I don't belong to a club and wear no colors...we're a group of maybe 10 bikes at max rolling around.

I just want to build bikes, work on mine and my friends bikes....make new friends....and enjoy what time I have left....planning a Sturgis run next year with my friends, hitting Daytona, Myrtle Beach, Cherokee NC....maybe a few local rallies....just having fun.

I told my friends at the local Harley dealership what I was planning on doing and they offered me a tech job at like $10/hr to start out...ummm, why? I have no desire to be a professional tech to work for others, just myself...MMI will give me that education and experience and confidence to work in my garage at my pace with no pressure. If I need a break I can take a ride, play with my dogs...whatever....

Ahh I see, thought you were going to work after.

 

[SilentBob]

Just some advice for the school, I just joined up to the board, be patient and study hard. There are a lot of instructors in there who LOVE to tell stories in the middle of teaching something. If you have good patience then you'll do well.

As far as tools go. I saw someone post up about getting buddy buddy with the Snap-On guy and trust me....it'll be worth your time. He's not gonna turn down an order if you go a little over that limit as long as you aren't trying to buy everything in the Snap-On catalog. You can't buy "shop equipment" from him though.

As far as Jims and other specialty companies goes, If you call up Jims and tell them you're in the school (once you're in it) they'll tell you to either scan in and email or fax your student ID and a copy of your license and they'll send you a catalog on CD and a student discount price list. I found out that Jims has a deal running with the school. Evidently a few of the instructors help them develope tools.

ALSO.......for HD specialty tools and parts I HIGHLY recommend going to http://www.lshd1.com (Lake Shore Harley Davidson). They'll order you just about anything you need for 20% off list.

Shop around for your stuff and don't be afraid to tell these companies that you're a student and you'd be surprised what kinda discounts and stuff you'll get.

 

[M900]

Welcome and thank you!
Minus the link.

 

[1vixen]

I want to go to Florida too. Mmi Harley late model and marine watercraft.

I need to know expected tool costs, used uniforms if anyone has, instructional materials, laptops needed or will an iPad do? Some things those schools try to **** you for and eat your funds away.

I don't live in Florida yet and I have been looking at rentals, low income housing for a years lease. I have ssid, my husbands va/gi bill for spouses. I need this school.

But this may not qualify.

Why have my Harley I can't fix it when I need to? We both have Harley's and we love to ride. The dealership here is insane and way to expensive. I even purchased my road king in Texas because it was cheaper and newer model than the junk sold here.

I am trying to get my husband to enroll in the school too. We can both go but, he is wary of the move. Not me, I am ready to bolt out of here and go to school.

So , I need to get all those things in advance if I can. Anyone who decided on bailing on the school, I will be interested in your instructional books, dvd's, tools and maybe even those school uniforms. For the right price I will definitely take them off your hands.

 

[wafrederick]

I have a brother that went to MMI,took all the Harley Davidson courses.He works a Harley Davidson dealership,Hot Rod Harley in Muskegon,Mi and well known now.I know Hot Rod Harley does have a policy,in the service department: Dont produce with comebacks,the person is fired.Don't call a pair of diagnal wire cutters the other name for them at MMI,lesbian pliers

 

[gbh]

Special tools for Harley?
Go to mbsmfg on eBay. Great quality, fast service and better prices than others. Made in USA.
Information about Harleys?
There are a ton of sites but go to HTT (Harley Tech Talk)
I think mbsmfg even give discounts to HTT members.