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[bolensboneyard]

I did so it would idle down some after a cut. Seems to want to stay high once it kicks in. It does go back to the required setting for cutting. If it is wrong what would be the need for a third spring to idle up??

 

[Bob Heine]

I do plan to make a table once I saw some wood that is not too nice to save for something else. Have A Happy Thanksgiving!

Bobby, I am a procrastinator so I read that to mean the Thanksgiving table will be ready just in time.

 

[Joe-R]

Way to go Bobby! Now that is a project!!!

Joe

 

[1/2 Cup]

Happy Thanksgiving Bobby

 

[Redwolf947]

Great to know you're out there Redwolf. Thanks for the good words. Is Redwolf your given name? I'm referring to Native American ancestry?

No, it wasn't given to me, exactly. I have a little Cherokee in me. Very little 1/32 or less! I look more Scottish, red hair blue eyes. My Mother embraces her Cherokee heritage. I asked her once if my Indian name would/could be Red Wolf and she basically said yes. So in short I like the name so I use it as a handle. Thanks for asking!
Take care, and a belated happy Thanksgiving!
Mike

 

[bolensboneyard]

Bobby, I am a procrastinator so I read that to mean the Thanksgiving table will be ready just in time.

Bob it was a response to Andy about building a table to catch the boards and keep them off of the ground.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Way to go Bobby! Now that is a project!!!

Joe

Thanks Joe!

 

[bolensboneyard]

Happy Thanksgiving Bobby

Thanks Steve!

 

[bolensboneyard]

No, it wasn't given to me, exactly. I have a little Cherokee in me. Very little 1/32 or less! I look more Scottish, red hair blue eyes. My Mother embraces her Cherokee heritage. I asked her once if my Indian name would/could be Red Wolf and she basically said yes. So in short I like the name so I use it as a handle. Thanks for asking!
Take care, and a belated happy Thanksgiving!
Mike

Mike. In a round about way I got my given Native American name from a full blood Apache. I am of Native decent on my father's side as he is directly descended from the Mayflower. Early on my great (how many?) grandfather married into the Nipmuc tribe. We are currently trying to find out more. The Apache that gave me the name Graywolf many years ago (before my hair was gray) was one of my welding students. He was twice my age at the time and training for a job in the shipyard.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: I know you are trying to fine tune or upgrade the GOVERNOR and maybe build a table or support for the cut wood, but i'm wondering how safe you feel pushing those logs through that huge blade?

also how are the cuts and does the blade spin without wobbling?

great job getting to this point!!

hopefully you are smiling as the saw gets turned on and i'm sure you'll find some use for all the boards you'll be making out of old logs you have and find.

cheers

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: I know you are trying to fine tune or upgrade the GOVERNOR and maybe build a table or support for the cut wood, but i'm wondering how safe you feel pushing those logs through that huge blade?

also how are the cuts and does the blade spin without wobbling?

great job getting to this point!!

hopefully you are smiling as the saw gets turned on and i'm sure you'll find some use for all the boards you'll be making out of old logs you have and find.

cheers

I am smiling drives. I feel as safe as you can feel but have seen that everything is right with the operation. By that I mean, take a table saw for example, what binding the wood while pushing through or other things like a real dull blade would do with the wood you were sawing. I can duck behind a railroad tie also if something comes my way, but have no intention of not paying attention. Thanks for the thumbs up and the concern. Bobby

 

[bolensboneyard]

Cold here but we have winter flowers blooming. Ginny took these pictures on black Friday. Lantana, Camelia, and Sasanqua all in bloom along with the Holly berries!

 

[1/2 Cup]

Cold here but we have winter flowers blooming. Ginny took these pictures on black Friday. Lantana, Camelia, and Sasanqua all in bloom along with the Holly berries!

Absolutely stunning

 

[bolensboneyard]

Absolutely stunning

Thanks Steve. You made her smile!

 

[bolensboneyard]

The handle for an old cant hook head I found in a shed is the first thing I made out of the first log cut on the sawmill. Made some more adjustments to the carriage drive yesterday and everything working smoother. The wood is very figurative but not visible in the picture. Southern Magnolia all carved with draw knife, chisel, and spoke shave NO Sandpaper. Has a strength below hickory but above ash. Plenty strong enough for my needs. I am making a handle for my log lift currently.

 

[oldironfarmer]

The handle for an old cant hook head I found in a shed is the first thing I made out of the first log cut on the sawmill. Made some more adjustments to the carriage drive yesterday and everything working smoother. The wood is very figurative but not visible in the picture. Southern Magnolia all carved with draw knife, chisel, and spoke shave NO Sandpaper. Has a strength below hickory but above ash. Plenty strong enough for my needs. I am making a handle for my log lift currently.

Nice cant hook, Bobby!

And beautiful flowers. Winter flowers?

Drives:

Just to be clear the sawmill has a power feed to move the log through the blade. You move a lever one way to tighten a belt and feed the log then you can move the lever the other way and bring the carriage back to adjust the log to make the next cut.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Thanks Andy! Hope to finish log lifter today and I want to design a mallet for dogging and adjusting.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Thanks Andy! Hope to finish log lifter today and I want to design a mallet for dogging and adjusting.

A dog whacker for holding a cant to make a slab?

Your cant will make a slab.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Andy don't see where I mentioned a slab??? Mallet is for knocking the dog loose. I want to make the handle so it can be used for small pry bar type adjustments in areas that are too tight to hammer in such as dog hooks that do not want to move out but are too close to the upright to bite (think deep scallop in the log).

 

[jimreed2160]

Good job turning the "Cannot cant hook" into a "Can-do cant hook."

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: I thought that was called a PEAVY and maybe it's other name is a CANT HOOK?

Andy: I'm still learning how this old mill works and any information and pictures always helps. next time I'm up at the 100 year old cedar mill where I buy my cedar boards i'll have to take a few pictures and also look into more how their HUGE BLADE works. I'm guessing the blade on that mill is 5 or 6 foot in diameter, but it might be a bit smaller.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: sorry I won't have any big saw blade pics from the cedar mill I get wood from cause after writing that post I realized they change to a HUGE bandsaw blade a few years ago.

I was also curious not only if I spelled Peavy correctly, but wanted to see what Googling would say and here's what Wikidictionary had to say:

peavy (plural peavies)

A tool used to manipulate logs, having a thick wooden handle, a steel point, and a curved hooked arm. Similar to a cant-hook, but shorter and stouter, and with a pointed end.


so I guess yours is a bit bigger than the PEAVY hooks I used or maybe the loggers around here just used Peavy when it really was a Cant hook cause they were pretty big and some huge logs/trees were moved with them.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Good job turning the "Cannot cant hook" into a "Can-do cant hook."

Thanks Jim. Check out the next post. Broke the handle while making heavy hooks to hang the cant hook on the side of the mill. It was rotted so I decided to shift gears and take a piece of hickory log I had for handle making and make a duplicate. This one was mostly cut on the lathe then flattened on both sides with a draw knife and shaped with a spoke shave..

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: sorry I won't have any big saw blade pics from the cedar mill I get wood from cause after writing that post I realized they change to a HUGE bandsaw blade a few years ago.

I was also curious not only if I spelled Peavy correctly, but wanted to see what Googling would say and here's what Wikidictionary had to say:

peavy (plural peavies)

A tool used to manipulate logs, having a thick wooden handle, a steel point, and a curved hooked arm. Similar to a cant-hook, but shorter and stouter, and with a pointed end.


so I guess yours is a bit bigger than the PEAVY hooks I used or maybe the loggers around here just used Peavy when it really was a Cant hook cause they were pretty big and some huge logs/trees were moved with them.

drives they are basically the same tool but a Peavy has a point on the end for prying logs apart that are locked in a jam on a river. The cant hook is flat nosed or hook nosed and used more to turn logs for squaring them to cut lumber.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: makes sense you wouldn't want to damage your logs with the point of the PEAVY that usually is just poking around in the bark.

you must have a pretty big lathe to turn a handle that big?

cheers

 

[oldironfarmer]

To clarify a subject that needs no more clarification, a cant hook is for turning cants, a partially squared log you have to roll 90 degrees or 180 degrees to get the blade aligned with where you want the next cut. When sawing a log you need to work around defects. There are very few perfect logs, and even then you'll turn the cant a few times while reducing it in size by taking boards off. The point on a peavey gets in the way. I didn't know why peavies had the point, Bobby's explanation makes sense.

Was that a top fuller you made the handle for, Bobby?

 

[bolensboneyard]

To clarify a subject that needs no more clarification, a cant hook is for turning cants, a partially squared log you have to roll 90 degrees or 180 degrees to get the blade aligned with where you want the next cut. When sawing a log you need to work around defects. There are very few perfect logs, and even then you'll turn the cant a few times while reducing it in size by taking boards off. The point on a peavey gets in the way. I didn't know why peavies had the point, Bobby's explanation makes sense.

Was that a top fuller you made the handle for, Bobby?

Yes a fuller. It broke when I was working the hangers for the cant hook. The original handle was, apparently, rotted. I was quite happy with the result but no not understand why they put such a small hole for such a large handle? I get that holes were punched through and such but what is the purpose do you suppose; the vibration is absorbed more by the difference in size at the other end? feel? control?

 

[jimreed2160]

Nice hickory handle. Did you turn with two centers?

 

[bolensboneyard]

Nice hickory handle. Did you turn with two centers?

Thanks Jim. I did turn with two centers. First I marked the spots where the taper changed; after turning the handle to the widest point along the rounded edge. Each point was then turned to its lowest/highest along the same line to end up with a round handle of the same shape. Next I cut the flat sides equal + to the width of the original with my bandsaw using a rip blade. I finished off the curve with a spoke shave as Hickory grain will pull out with the draw knife. I used the center point left from my lathe work to scribe the small oval on the head end and cut/shaved it down. Some light sanding. I have been wanting to figure out how to make this type of handle for a long time as I do not have a duplicator. Should go faster after the learning curve time is subtracted.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Yes a fuller. It broke when I was working the hangers for the cant hook. The original handle was, apparently, rotted. I was quite happy with the result but no not understand why they put such a small hole for such a large handle? I get that holes were punched through and such but what is the purpose do you suppose; the vibration is absorbed more by the difference in size at the other end? feel? control?

As you know a fuller is a top tool, not a hammer. Top tools typically have smaller eyes because there is a lot of force transmitted through the tool during use. The handle is only for holding the tool in place while it is struck by a hammer to deform the work underneath so it can be smaller. In fact some top tools have no eye but use an iron handle wrapped around a groove in the tool. Top tools like handled drifts have a bit larger eye because of the twisting motion required to free the tool from the punched hole however you still don't want the wall of the eye thin enough to deform under heavy work. Those tools, and often other top tools, only get a temporary wedge in the handle with the wedge left long for easy removal. Then the tool can be heated in the forge for re-dressing and heat treating. The same handle can then be reused.

Of course punched holes can be drifted by the smith to as large as is desired. Some old hand made ball peen hammers have quite thin cheeks and would not stand up to use as a top tool.

Since you asked.

 

[bolensboneyard]

As you know a fuller is a top tool, not a hammer. Top tools typically have smaller eyes because there is a lot of force transmitted through the tool during use. The handle is only for holding the tool in place while it is struck by a hammer to deform the work underneath so it can be smaller. In fact some top tools have no eye but use an iron handle wrapped around a groove in the tool. Top tools like handled drifts have a bit larger eye because of the twisting motion required to free the tool from the punched hole however you still don't want the wall of the eye thin enough to deform under heavy work. Those tools, and often other top tools, only get a temporary wedge in the handle with the wedge left long for easy removal. Then the tool can be heated in the forge for re-dressing and heat treating. The same handle can then be reused.

Of course punched holes can be drifted by the smith to as large as is desired. Some old hand made ball peen hammers have quite thin cheeks and would not stand up to use as a top tool.

Since you asked.

Thanks Andy. I guess I wasn't very clear. As you say, this in not a problem with a top tool, however, I was referring, in general, to hammers I have with such a small center hole. Great explanation. Specifically, I was thinking of a knife blade hammer I have (posted I believe?) but, now that you have me thinking, maybe it was designed to be used also as a top tool? I picked it up because it looked useful and I had never seen one before!

 

[bolensboneyard]

Have received today a gift from my friend Stas. It is a birch bark coaster for the beer I hope we will share some day; and no doubt some fine food. Very thoughtful of you Stas and thank you very much. I really do wish you and your family Happy Holidays. Sorry I do not know how to get the picture to be enlarged as I see in so many thank you posts. Be assured, my heart is! Your Friend Bobby!

 

[bolensboneyard]

Hung the cant hook on the front of the mill under the carriage. It has already saved my back when working with planks as it catches boards when they slip. I just raise a knee. (reflex from my old warrior days)

 

[bolensboneyard]

New handle for my log tongs. Is everybody on vacation?

 

[oldironfarmer]

Hung the cant hook on the front of the mill under the carriage. It has already saved my back when working with planks as it catches boards when they slip. I just raise a knee. (reflex from my old warrior days)

I like your cant hook hooks.

If the tip gets really dull you'll find a cant hook can't hook.

 

[1/2 Cup]

I like your cant hook hooks.

If the tip gets really dull you'll find a cant hook can't hook.

Andy

 

[bolensboneyard]

I like your cant hook hooks.

If the tip gets really dull you'll find a cant hook can't hook.

Andy

 

[bolensboneyard]

More winter flowers that by tomorrow will have frost on them. Been working on a cultivator repair (hand held) that a friend gave me. Should have pictures tomorrow as I have spent most of my time filing papers for my book.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: good to know the CANT hook is helping with the log turning. speaking of that any boards cut yet?

so are you writing a book and have you noted that earlier in your thread? I'm still trying to catch up on the cool Mustang frame up build you did, but interested to hear what's in the book.

isn't it good to smell the roses (or flowers) especially in Decemeber? unfortunately my red poinsettas in this picture are silk, but I bought them for my bride 31 years ago and they still brighten up our place this time of year.

cheers

 

[mmavet]

BB: good to know the CANT hook is helping with the log turning. speaking of that any boards cut yet?

so are you writing a book and have you noted that earlier in your thread? I'm still trying to catch up on the cool Mustang frame up build you did, but interested to hear what's in the book.

isn't it good to smell the roses (or flowers) especially in Decemeber? unfortunately my red poinsettas in this picture are silk, but I bought them for my bride 31 years ago and they still brighten up our place this time of year.

cheers

Is that photo called bird baiting in my front yard?