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Sandmann do you plan on using an original bed or building one out of wood? Your cab appears to be in great shape. The one I had to work with building the wrecker was nice but no where near that shape.
 
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OK all you model A guys this tool was made for an exclusive purpose important to an integral part of the Model A. It was designed specifically for a purpose that no tool existed for. There is a patent pending on this tool and it goes a long way toward saving rare and expensive parts that would otherwise be useless. What is it and what is it used for?
 

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Sandmann do you plan on using an original bed or building one out of wood? Your cab appears to be in great shape. The one I had to work with building the wrecker was nice but no where near that shape.

Funny you should ask... I had a line on an old bed that this guy has had for about 50 years. He is a real nice guy but we could never get together on a price. I met him through the local Model A club.

In the meantime my mom and sister were on a road trip about to come back through Ohio. I asked if they had the room and could pick up a bed from Brookville roadster. The guys at Brookville Roadster were real nice to my mom and let her unload and reload her van inside their warehouse. The bed came completely assembled with wood, and it looks fantastic!

About a week later, I stopped by to see how Mr. Smith was doing. We had a nice chat. He has been driving the same Model A for 70 years. Turns out we went to the same high school, albeit 30 some odd years apart. He has forgotten more about model A's than most folks will ever know!

So Mr. Smith calls me about a week later and says he has a stack of stuff for me, come on out. I am there in about an hour with a pocket full of cash.

He is old and I am in no hurry, though I am no spring chicken myself. We chit-chat and meander our way back to his dilapidated, but jammed-packed barns. We stop along the way to clear some brush here and there. M. Smith steps behind some brush to pull back a few pieces of rusty corrugated roofing panels. Low and behold, is the front end of a Model A with a B engine that was a saw mill setup from way back in the day. That guy has all kinds of stories, and it was a joy to hear every one.

We finally make it to the back barns, and sure enough, there is a pile of stuff consisting of what he had that we had talked about on my last trip, including the bed. He was proud to show me, as I was surprised to see it, a still in the box fender. It took a few minutes to undo the knots of the dirty and cob-webbed string. The box did look really old and had a few water and oil stains, but was still intact. He helped me take the fender out to look at it. It was beautiful with only the slightest of surface rust here and there. Mr. Smith said that was the first time it had been out of the box since 1962!

Of course I said I would be happy to take it all. He agreed, and told me to give him a fair price. I did some quick ciphering and came up with a figure. He started shaking his head and kicked the dirt a little. Usually I am pretty good with reading people, but was not sure how to read Mr. Smith. He breaks the silence first by saying "Nope,....that's too much."

What? Did I just hear this guy right? I did, and we had another long chat. It turns out his son is not interested in any of his Model A stuff, and he wants to see it get used and go to a good home. I told him I didn't want to take advantage of any situation and that he should accept my original offer. He said OK, only if I would take a few more things he wanted to get rid of. I guess we both ended up happy. Mr. Smith will be getting a Christmas visit from me no doubt!

So to finally answer your question....I am putting the new bed on my truck, and making a Model A trailer out of the other bed. The trailer will sit on a 29-29 frame and use Model A rear-end and springs.
 

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OK all you model A guys this tool was made for an exclusive purpose important to an integral part of the Model A. It was designed specifically for a purpose that no tool existed for. There is a patent pending on this tool and it goes a long way toward saving rare and expensive parts that would otherwise be useless. What is it and what is it used for?

Some kind of wheel or hub re-conditioner/jig? Maybe Knocking out the studs all at once.
 

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Hi Bobby
Just caught up on the last few pages here and I'm happy to hear the foot is coming along.
I received a full soft cast for my left foot and have been hobbling around for the last 2 weeks stumbling over everything in my garage and it feels like I'm dragging a dog around that has me by the pant leg. My foot has a torn tendon in the arch so it makes it very painful to walk very far and with the cast, walking is very hard on my hip So I kind of feel your pain.

I hope we are both up and running soon (To many projects and not enough time or energy)

Don
 

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Oh the joys of getting further along in years. Life is generally a fun project but at times you get a curve thrown at you. All you can do is pick up the pieces and move along. The cards you are dealt are the ones you have to play. Ramblings of an old fool. I am glad your heel is mending so well.
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Hi Bobby
Just caught up on the last few pages here and I'm happy to hear the foot is coming along.
I received a full soft cast for my left foot and have been hobbling around for the last 2 weeks stumbling over everything in my garage and it feels like I'm dragging a dog around that has me by the pant leg. My foot has a torn tendon in the arch so it makes it very painful to walk very far and with the cast, walking is very hard on my hip So I kind of feel your pain.

I hope we are both up and running soon (To many projects and not enough time or energy)

Don

Don sorry to hear and can definitely relate. Go easy, more is not better with these things. I broke both sides and am finally walking with a cast. Crutch is taking 10% of the weight still and every now and again I chance all the natural weight on the bum ankle. Surprising how much difference that 10% makes.
 
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Funny you should ask... I had a line on an old bed that this guy has had for about 50 years. He is a real nice guy but we could never get together on a price. I met him through the local Model A club.

In the meantime my mom and sister were on a road trip about to come back through Ohio. I asked if they had the room and could pick up a bed from Brookville roadster. The guys at Brookville Roadster were real nice to my mom and let her unload and reload her van inside their warehouse. The bed came completely assembled with wood, and it looks fantastic!

About a week later, I stopped by to see how Mr. Smith was doing. We had a nice chat. He has been driving the same Model A for 70 years. Turns out we went to the same high school, albeit 30 some odd years apart. He has forgotten more about model A's than most folks will ever know!

So Mr. Smith calls me about a week later and says he has a stack of stuff for me, come on out. I am there in about an hour with a pocket full of cash.

He is old and I am in no hurry, though I am no spring chicken myself. We chit-chat and meander our way back to his dilapidated, but jammed-packed barns. We stop along the way to clear some brush here and there. M. Smith steps behind some brush to pull back a few pieces of rusty corrugated roofing panels. Low and behold, is the front end of a Model A with a B engine that was a saw mill setup from way back in the day. That guy has all kinds of stories, and it was a joy to hear every one.

We finally make it to the back barns, and sure enough, there is a pile of stuff consisting of what he had that we had talked about on my last trip, including the bed. He was proud to show me, as I was surprised to see it, a still in the box fender. It took a few minutes to undo the knots of the dirty and cob-webbed string. The box did look really old and had a few water and oil stains, but was still intact. He helped me take the fender out to look at it. It was beautiful with only the slightest of surface rust here and there. Mr. Smith said that was the first time it had been out of the box since 1962!

Of course I said I would be happy to take it all. He agreed, and told me to give him a fair price. I did some quick ciphering and came up with a figure. He started shaking his head and kicked the dirt a little. Usually I am pretty good with reading people, but was not sure how to read Mr. Smith. He breaks the silence first by saying "Nope,....that's too much."

What? Did I just hear this guy right? I did, and we had another long chat. It turns out his son is not interested in any of his Model A stuff, and he wants to see it get used and go to a good home. I told him I didn't want to take advantage of any situation and that he should accept my original offer. He said OK, only if I would take a few more things he wanted to get rid of. I guess we both ended up happy. Mr. Smith will be getting a Christmas visit from me no doubt!

So to finally answer your question....I am putting the new bed on my truck, and making a Model A trailer out of the other bed. The trailer will sit on a 29-29 frame and use Model A rear-end and springs.

Looks like you will be in great shape. Good story too! Don't you just love getting a look in those hidden chambers.
 
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Oh the joys of getting further along in years. Life is generally a fun project but at times you get a curve thrown at you. All you can do is pick up the pieces and move along. The cards you are dealt are the ones you have to play. Ramblings of an old fool. I am glad your heel is mending so well.
walt

Thanks Walt. I figure these things happen so we can stop long enough to remember what is more important in life. Friends, family, and what we are here for.
 

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Bobby, honestly I have no idea..:headscrat

You have me very intrigued.. I have looked through KRW tools:headscrat

But if I was to have a guess, it my be a diff ( rear wheel bearing )or torque tube seal or bearing installation tool.:headscrat

Tell us more please..
 
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I well tell you more. A clue is in the fact that the tool has a patent pending. KRW and other back in the day manufacturers are out on this one.
 
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Thought you guys might be interested in seeing a 20 ton press that is not hydraulic. This baby was built by Weaver in the 30's and is one you can tweak just about a pound at a time. The lever swings over to engage slots in the wheel in order to use leverage for the heavy stuff. I got it at a tractor auction for $65 a few years back. On the side I built a place to mount a Model A front spindle in order to check wheels for run out after putting them on the wheel straightener.
 

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Thanks Bobby, I have forgotten to post a picture of my press, which is practically identical to yours, probably bigger, maybe a 50 ton but has no markings. We talked about the similarity and I sure forgot you had that!

Yours is beautiful!
 
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Thanks Andy. They sure are nice to work with. I have to do some weld pickup on a few of my slots in the wheel as pulling down on a certain angle can make it slip out. Not good for keeping you standing on two feet.
 

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OK all you model A guys this tool was made for an exclusive purpose important to an integral part of the Model A. It was designed specifically for a purpose that no tool existed for. There is a patent pending on this tool and it goes a long way toward saving rare and expensive parts that would otherwise be useless. What is it and what is it used for?

Bobby, :wtf::dunno:
 
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Thought you guys might be interested in seeing a 20 ton press that is not hydraulic. This baby was built by Weaver in the 30's and is one you can tweak just about a pound at a time. The lever swings over to engage slots in the wheel in order to use leverage for the heavy stuff. I got it at a tractor auction for $65 a few years back. On the side I built a place to mount a Model A front spindle in order to check wheels for run out after putting them on the wheel straightener.

Bobby, that is a very nice old piece. But you do realize they have made improvements on some tools over the years, like incorporating hydraulics.:D Sorry, I couldn't resist.:rolleyes: I can't wait to see it in person.
 
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OK, as promised the answer to the tool. This tool was invented to be used on Model A Ford shock absorbers. As many of you know KR Wilson made special tools for rebuilding the Model A shock. They are very hard to find and expensive when you do find them. I do have the better ones or have made duplicates from originals. Anyway, as the repro. shocks are very expensive I got into, among other things, rebuilding original shocks. In the course of learning to make these things work as designed I discovered many of the covers were too lose to be of any use even though they are a bear to get apart. Soooo I designed and built a tool to shrink the covers, thereby tightening the thread area and saving most of the old covers. The base of the tool is machined to be exactly the same size as the outside diameter of the cover at the end opposite the threaded end. The drift is made to sit inside the cover. The little scalloped area, if you can see it, is to ride over the plug area and not flatten it. Cover is placed into the dish. It will sit down all the way to the last 1/2 inch, half of which is threaded area. This area is heated until is just starts to get light red. I then use the special drift to drive it until it bottoms in the dish. Once it bottoms I allow it to cool. It will usually drop out when cool but the cap screws on the bottom of the dish are there to push it out if it should stay stuck. This tool does not damage the cover and the covers fit nice and snug. They no longer leak! I have a patent pending on the tool so you will not find it in any magazine. :)
 

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Cool Tool! Will you be rebuilding any for the public?

Spent some time getting organized in the shop...until I am ready to mount my bed, it seemed a shame to waste possible workspace. A couple of 2x4's and spare piece of MDF and ****.....a Model A workbench. I used a forstner bit to clear the rivets, and a small notch on the end and it sits tight.

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Just checkin in tonite Bobby

How long will you be on crutches? They are for keeping your bad foot off the ground not just relieving a little of your weight....

Well like you said "sometimes it good to be slowed down so we can reflect on our real purpose here".

Wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas

Don
 

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Bobby, that is awesome. I kind of follow you along with what the tool does. Maybe you can show it to us being used and the end result.

And before it comes and goes, Merry Christmas. I hope you and all those around you have a truly great one.
 
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Thanks Don. I am on only one crutch now to keep a little weight off the bad foot. I figure I can handle about 95% of the weight but when I try to go without the crutch I hobble as the balance is hard to maintain without strains being put in the wrong places. Plus the boot is higher than the sneaker. I could probably to well with a cane.
 
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Cool Tool! Will you be rebuilding any for the public?

Spent some time getting organized in the shop...until I am ready to mount my bed, it seemed a shame to waste possible workspace. A couple of 2x4's and spare piece of MDF and ****.....a Model A workbench. I used a forstner bit to clear the rivets, and a small notch on the end and it sits tight.

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All for utilizing space. I do not plan to mass produce but may make some on a as wanted basis. Haven't thought about price. Probably prefer to help someone make their own. Pat. is to keep someone else from capitalizing on my idea and mass produce.
 
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Bobby, that is awesome. I kind of follow you along with what the tool does. Maybe you can show it to us being used and the end result.

And before it comes and goes, Merry Christmas. I hope you and all those around you have a truly great one.

Next time I do some Dan but not anytime soon. Thanks for the visit.
 
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These tools are both for the same purpose. The one on the left was designed and built by KR Wilson. It is used for pulling a Model A drive shaft with the pinion gear and bearing preload intact. The one on the right will do the same but it will also reinstall the assembly. There is a separate clamp (collar) that goes with the one on the right but the KRW tool has the clamp (collar) built in. It is barely visible on the left side of the picture. I made the tool on the right from two pieces machined in my shop and some junk Model A parts. The bell off of the end of a torque tube as seen has two pinion nuts welded to it to get the fine thread without special machining. I reinforced the outside (it is over engineered) with 1/4 inch key stock. The top piece with the tacked nut screws into the bell piece. The flare fits over the piece shown below with the holes in it. That piece is bolted to the flange on the banjo or center differential housing. Lock the separate collar onto the drive shaft and back off the movable nut on top of the bell/flare assembly and the tool pulls the whole shaft/pinion/bearing out. The bore in the bottom piece is cut to reinstall the assembly using nuts and threaded rod.
 

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OK, as promised the answer to the tool. This tool was invented to be used on Model A Ford shock absorbers. As many of you know KR Wilson made special tools for rebuilding the Model A shock. They are very hard to find and expensive when you do find them. I do have the better ones or have made duplicates from originals. Anyway, as the repro. shocks are very expensive I got into, among other things, rebuilding original shocks. In the course of learning to make these things work as designed I discovered many of the covers were too lose to be of any use even though they are a bear to get apart. Soooo I designed and built a tool to shrink the covers, thereby tightening the thread area and saving most of the old covers. The base of the tool is machined to be exactly the same size as the outside diameter of the cover at the end opposite the threaded end. The drift is made to sit inside the cover. The little scalloped area, if you can see it, is to ride over the plug area and not flatten it. Cover is placed into the dish. It will sit down all the way to the last 1/2 inch, half of which is threaded area. This area is heated until is just starts to get light red. I then use the special drift to drive it until it bottoms in the dish. Once it bottoms I allow it to cool. It will usually drop out when cool but the cap screws on the bottom of the dish are there to push it out if it should stay stuck. This tool does not damage the cover and the covers fit nice and snug. They no longer leak! I have a patent pending on the tool so you will not find it in any magazine. :)

Bobby, that's just awesome.:bowdown:

I may have to borrow it at some point..

There is a heap of work in rebuilding a shocker correctly..

Thank you:thumbup:
 
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Made this to fill Model A and other rear and transmissions. Bought the pump on ebay and got a government surplus oil can that contained cutting oil and mounted it. I had to bridge the top from rim to rim in order to stabilize the pump. Took some casters and made up a roll around trolley out of some scrap. Used an old Model A rear spring U bolt for a handle. Works great
 

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Just got copperhead number 10. This is the first one I have gotten in the shop. Probably should have let him get the other critters but I stick my hands in a lot of places where I cannot see so best he is gone! Got him with my crutch. Bet that is a first!
 
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Look in the lower right corner of this picture. That is the collar that was not shown in the explanation of the Model A drive pinion tool in the above post.
 

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Bobby, absolutely fascinating. Having the right gear to do work on a Model A makes life so much easier. I know I struggled with a lot of makeshift tools..

I would just like to take this opportunity to wish you and yours all the best for Christmas..:thumbup:
 
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Have a safe and Merry Christmas also. If you decide to make any of these tools and need some dimensions etc. let me know. I will do what I can to help Steve.
 
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Wife insisted I upload her work of art so that all who visit will be wished a Merry Christmas. I agree as there are those who do not post but we do not want to leave out. Bobby
 

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