Model A Ford garage

[oldironfarmer]

Potter's wheel is on my list to build.

I agree those look large, maybe for something like automobile body clay patterns.

You come up with the neatest stuff!!

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: so how did you cut the persimmon if your new mill isn't set up inside the new shop? looks like some great stuff and wish i had a place to store stuff like that even if i could find it.

one of those pottery tools looks like a golf club i could use. nice find and i bet they will shine up pretty nicely. if you need any ideas or help spiffing them up maybe Don has some tips.

have a great day and post up more pictures of that new shop or mill's carport as you have time to.

cheers

 

[bolensboneyard]

Potter's wheel is on my list to build.

I agree those look large, maybe for something like automobile body clay patterns.

You come up with the neatest stuff!!

Some are larger than others but the biggest ones look like they are for head and bust size figures. Nothing for something small like weebles but some good potting sizes.

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: so how did you cut the persimmon if your new mill isn't set up inside the new shop? looks like some great stuff and wish i had a place to store stuff like that even if i could find it.

one of those pottery tools looks like a golf club i could use. nice find and i bet they will shine up pretty nicely. if you need any ideas or help spiffing them up maybe Don has some tips.

have a great day and post up more pictures of that new shop or mill's carport as you have time to.

cheers

Drives I have a friend who has a woodmizer on a trailer and he cut it for me for a friend size cost.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Noticed from the top of the pole shed that my winter flowers are in bloom. Camellias are next.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Beautiful!

We just don't do winter flowers...

But, then again, our mosquitoes are dormant for 6 months starting last week.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Our mosquitoes are as big as drones and as fast as flies! Looks like a bunch of meth addicts running around here from May to December for all the scratched bug bites. "Oh it's a long, long way from May to December.............." Aren't you glad you had the volume turned down while I was singing??

 

[bolensboneyard]

The pole shed is coming along. I expected to get the ridge board all in before quitting today but came up a few inches short on the length. Have to get a longer one as setting the poles put me just a little over 30 feet. Shouldn't be more than one more day to start running furring strips and boarding up the ends. Problem now is moving the guy with the sawmill. I simply hate voicemail and am tired of hearing the mail box is full but, I always have a plan B. Drives check out my hydraulic movable staging.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: well we might not have mosquitoes today, but we have snow so take your pick.

i'm going to ask a few building questions if you don't mind cause maybe some day i'll build something out of lumber i have sitting around.

did you go 2x12's and 2x8's on every other ceiling joist? are all the roof trusses (or angled boards) 2x6's and did you pre cut the ends at what degree angle?

of course i like the tractor and looks like it barely fit inside.

what are you doing for roofing material. up here we'd probably use plywood on the trusses then composition that would last maybe 20-30+ years, but since you are building it to go over a mill and might want daylight inside are you maybe roofing with that clear wrinkled fiberglass?

looks great so far and again STAY SAFE

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: well we might not have mosquitoes today, but we have snow so take your pick.

i'm going to ask a few building questions if you don't mind cause maybe some day i'll build something out of lumber i have sitting around.

did you go 2x12's and 2x8's on every other ceiling joist? are all the roof trusses (or angled boards) 2x6's and did you pre cut the ends at what degree angle?

of course i like the tractor and looks like it barely fit inside.

what are you doing for roofing material. up here we'd probably use plywood on the trusses then composition that would last maybe 20-30+ years, but since you are building it to go over a mill and might want daylight inside are you maybe roofing with that clear wrinkled fiberglass?

looks great so far and again STAY SAFE

Drives I did use 2x12 every other one with 2x8 as I had the extra 12's and needed to use 8's in order to bump enough up to support my alternate rafters. I wanted 24 inch spacing support for the steel siding I have for roofing. I plan to put a window on one end to open like double doors for access to the loft and light.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Finely got to go and start breaking down my sawmill. It was supposed to be delivered as part of the trade but I would have had to wait a few more months to get it and the pole shed is almost done. Traveling 165 miles one way and it looks like at least two more trips with a truck and trailer which I have to rustle up as mine trailer needs new tires which are not in the budget. So, bare with me on the progress of this project.

 

[bolensboneyard]

More mill pictures. Yellow Jackets at the mill site in the ground between the mandrel/power plant and the carriage drive. Wish me luck you know what they have cost me so far.

 

[oldironfarmer]

WOW!! Very nice sawmill!!

It even has paint! doesn't look like it's very old, 20 or 30 years. That should work good.

36" blade? You can really handle some logs with that setup.

And learn to look for the signs of iron in the wood

Wish I could come help you set it up and mill a few logs.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: what size blade is that or is Andy's guess of 36 inch about right?

having one of those on your property sounds like either you are going to have building supplies to last your lifetime or maybe you are doing this so you can make some extra funds to support a few of your hobbies.

so are you wanting us to guess how much the mill cost you or how much the yellow jackets have cost you? do they ever go dormant in your area like they do up here in the winters?

as far as TRAILER TIRES i think you might want to post pictures of your tires cause i'm pretty sure Andy made his first MILLION by saving money on tires so maybe he has some advice to share.

 

[bolensboneyard]

WOW!! Very nice sawmill!!

It even has paint! doesn't look like it's very old, 20 or 30 years. That should work good.

36" blade? You can really handle some logs with that setup.

And learn to look for the signs of iron in the wood

Wish I could come help you set it up and mill a few logs.

Thanks Andy. Made another 300 mile round trip today to break down and bring home some more. I have all but three pieces of track as I needed to wait until time to go home to blast the bees. (let you know how that worked out tomorrow) I also looked at the carriage and it breaks down into two pieces so I took in apart and it fits into the pickup. Got two of the belts off and the carriage reversing drum, the cable and the pulleys plus a few other items. All that is left is the mandrel, drum and the power plant and loading dock which is welded together. Problem is getting coordinated with trailers and the only guy who has a backhoe in the area who is only home on Saturday. I have a gooseneck for Sat. but am waiting to see if the loader will be available at the same time. I can always break the wood down and number it but the power plant has to be lifted with a machine. It is also the key piece at the other end as it has to go in first before the mill can be built (no access from the other side without cutting trees I don't want to cut) If I can get it loaded Sat. then I can bring it all home so I am working to get everything broken down before then. My good friend is sick so it's just me and Ginny up until now.

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: what size blade is that or is Andy's guess of 36 inch about right?

having one of those on your property sounds like either you are going to have building supplies to last your lifetime or maybe you are doing this so you can make some extra funds to support a few of your hobbies.

so are you wanting us to guess how much the mill cost you or how much the yellow jackets have cost you? do they ever go dormant in your area like they do up here in the winters?

as far as TRAILER TIRES i think you might want to post pictures of your tires cause i'm pretty sure Andy made his first MILLION by saving money on tires so maybe he has some advice to share.

The blade is 42 inches with insert teeth has just been tuned and all new teeth put in. I made myself a bee hood out of a face shield and a yard of net lace like the brides wear for a vail. I got it at Walmart for a buck. I worked great The bees were on me in less than a second and between that and the hooded jacket I wore so far not one sting. I hope not to test it a second time.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Bobby, that is one awesome saw mill

I trust all goes well with the relocation.

Regards

 

[don long]

Hi Bobby
Your pole barn looks good (those are some monster poles)
Your saw mill looks interesting. As an old city boy I wouldn't know where to start to work the thing let alone tearing it down and then putting it back into workable shape I'm in on this venture.
Did I mention that I hate bees and yellow jackets are much worse

 

[bolensboneyard]

Bobby, that is one awesome saw mill

I trust all goes well with the relocation.

Regards

Steve I should have it up and running by spring or summer; just about the time you make your U.S.A. tour.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Steve I should have it up and running by spring or summer; just about the time you make your U.S.A. tour.

Set the bar high, huh?

 

[bolensboneyard]

Hi Bobby
Your pole barn looks good (those are some monster poles)
Your saw mill looks interesting. As an old city boy I wouldn't know where to start to work the thing let alone tearing it down and then putting it back into workable shape I'm in on this venture.
Did I mention that I hate bees and yellow jackets are much worse

Thanks Don. They were a treat to set without getting overpowered. I used a sling on a bale spear!
I have only the power plant and the wood left to tear down and expect to have it all by Saturday evening; if the loader shows up. My wife and I have done everything ourselves so far.
I am happy to report that using my homemade bee suit I have eliminated a whole nest of yellow jackets. Bees 0 Me a Shi_load of dead bees. I owed them one. Cost me a sting and a broken ankle last time I messed with them and had a healthy respect for taking them on again. May nothing stand between a man and his passion, toys; I mean memories!

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: sounds like SUCCESS on the YELLOW JACKET front and count me in for also not liking those B'stards. i swell up like a balloon when i get stung and they like to make nests in all my scraps and storage piles if i don't keep a handle on them. i buy that wasp spray that sprays out about 10 feet and unfortunately the last time i used it there were about 10 yellow jackets looking like they had a nest in the ground of my grass in my front yard so i gave them a general spray that killed them, but now the patch of grass is dying so lesson learned.

your outfit you made up and your effort sounds like it was a big success at eliminating them and did you use the wasp spray or just put a propane torch down in their hive?

back to the mill which i bet will be amazing and your Ginny sounds like my bride who has helped me move stuff most guys i know wouldn't be able to, but she's asking that i slow down now on some of the big stuff.

as others have said i'm in for the show not only with you taking down and setting up your new mill, but seeing what you cut and all the projects you make from the lumber you make.

cheers and good luck on moving the engine which takes a bit more than a helpful bride.

Don & ALL: any of you experience those KILLER BEES which i bet almost eliminated the regular bee population cause i think they look similar?

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: maybe you know or can ask around or maybe the wizards following your thread might know the answer to this.

i'm picking up a lot of 1 and 2 inch thick cedar mostly clear for deck and fencing directly from a mill. i've done this before and some of the thicker stuff cracked and wondering if i need to treat the ends if i'm keeping the cedar outside to dry naturally?

i'm planning on putting all the cedar on pallet racks like you see at Home Depot or Costco and putting scrap 1x2's between each row maybe 5 1x2's per 8-10 foot length.

anything i should know? I'm probably going to put a tarp over the top of the racks, but not directly on the wood.

so i know you and maybe others would dry their new mill cut wood either inside or under a roof of some sort, but wondering if i should paint the ends of the ends or buy a chemical that is made for this or just let them dry and hope they don't crack?

thanks for sharing your wisdom and best of luck getting the rest of the mill home!

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: maybe you know or can ask around or maybe the wizards following your thread might know the answer to this.

i'm picking up a lot of 1 and 2 inch thick cedar mostly clear for deck and fencing directly from a mill. i've done this before and some of the thicker stuff cracked and wondering if i need to treat the ends if i'm keeping the cedar outside to dry naturally?

i'm planning on putting all the cedar on pallet racks like you see at Home Depot or Costco and putting scrap 1x2's between each row maybe 5 1x2's per 8-10 foot length.

anything i should know? I'm probably going to put a tarp over the top of the racks, but not directly on the wood.

so i know you and maybe others would dry their new mill cut wood either inside or under a roof of some sort, but wondering if i should paint the ends of the ends or buy a chemical that is made for this or just let them dry and hope they don't crack?

thanks for sharing your wisdom and best of luck getting the rest of the mill home!

Drives I would paint the ends and dry all the wood separated by strips of wood the smaller the better of the same size. Keep it off of the ground also. Cedar has more natural oil than most domestic wood but if it is white and not red it should be pretty close to the rest. Better if you keep some moisture where it is dried either by spraying and covering or just in a damp place like a cellar. Not wet just damp. If you want natural wood for a deck as opposed to plastics I would use red wood. Should be a lot less expensive in your area than mine.

 

[oldironfarmer]

Drives I would paint the ends and dry all the wood separated by strips of wood the smaller the better of the same size. Keep it off of the ground also. Cedar has more natural oil than most domestic wood but if it is white and not red it should be pretty close to the rest. Better if you keep some moisture where it is dried either by spraying and covering or just in a damp place like a cellar. Not wet just damp. If you want natural wood for a deck as opposed to plastics I would use red wood. Should be a lot less expensive in your area than mine.

Ditto!!

But in Drives' area it probably will not dry too quickly just under cover.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Ditto!!

But in Drives' area it probably will not dry too quickly just under cover.

Don't know if he is in eastern part of the state or not? True for sure in the west.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: i live in South Seattle and as i'm writing this it's raining outside about an inch an hour currently. yes it's pretty wet around her in the winter, but we have about 3 or 4 months of 75-90 degree weather with no bugs or very little humidity to bother us.

yep i'm getting RED CEDAR for the deck and fencing and i'm setting up 3 or 4 8-9 foot commercial pallet racks like they have at Home Depot or Costco to stack the wood on. yep i believe in putting 1x2's stickers between each row, so i'll probably buy an extra bunch of them. i might have a few hundred still from the last bunch of cedar i bought a few years ago that i'm still using cause i won't throw them away or burn them.

do either of you care what kind of paint goes on the ends of the wood cause i know an old woodworker up here that gave me a jug of something that is more like simple green to paint on the ends to keep it from cracking. maybe the lighter stain or treatment lets some moisture come out the end of the wood too, but not so quick that it will crack?

Did you and Ginny go get the rest of the mill or is that next weekend?

cheers and enjoy your SUNDAY!!

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: i thought maybe a visual might help you. here's the racks i'm setting up for the red cedar 2x6's i'm picking up and the fencing materials.

here's some i've had leftover from a few other projects that i have under a tarp that might have been here for 4 years now. i just used some of the stored stuff to do this cedar mailbox stand i might have already posted.

thanks for any advice or knowledge and i probably will start a thread on WOOD 101 soon cause i bet it would help all of us to know some of this stuff cause not too many guys milling their own wood these days.

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: i live in South Seattle and as i'm writing this it's raining outside about an inch an hour currently. yes it's pretty wet around her in the winter, but we have about 3 or 4 months of 75-90 degree weather with no bugs or very little humidity to bother us.

yep i'm getting RED CEDAR for the deck and fencing and i'm setting up 3 or 4 8-9 foot commercial pallet racks like they have at Home Depot or Costco to stack the wood on. yep i believe in putting 1x2's stickers between each row, so i'll probably buy an extra bunch of them. i might have a few hundred still from the last bunch of cedar i bought a few years ago that i'm still using cause i won't throw them away or burn them.

do either of you care what kind of paint goes on the ends of the wood cause i know an old woodworker up here that gave me a jug of something that is more like simple green to paint on the ends to keep it from cracking. maybe the lighter stain or treatment lets some moisture come out the end of the wood too, but not so quick that it will crack?

Did you and Ginny go get the rest of the mill or is that next weekend?

cheers and enjoy your SUNDAY!!

Drives looks like you are on the right track. Any paint will do just seals the ends and slows down the drying process. We now have the whole mill back on the plantation. I built my pole shed based on the measurements I got from the guy that owned the mill and find I will have 6 feet of it sticking out of the building. Not a big deal as it is the end of the track but I will have to keep it painted and use pressure treated lumber I suppose. I plan to slap burnt oil and kerosene on it anyway.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: i'm happy to hear you and Ginny were able to bring all of the mill home this week. too bad it's longer than the previous owner said it was, but another option since you are so handy might be to put up a couple more poles and add a few tresses and make your building 8 feet longer?

thanks for the advice/help on how to store my red cedar this winter.

best of luck getting the mill up and running and i bet your weather is about perfect now for working outside so enjoy it and stay safe.

cheers

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: i'm happy to hear you and Ginny were able to bring all of the mill home this week. too bad it's longer than the previous owner said it was, but another option since you are so handy might be to put up a couple more poles and add a few tresses and make your building 8 feet longer?

thanks for the advice/help on how to store my red cedar this winter.

best of luck getting the mill up and running and i bet your weather is about perfect now for working outside so enjoy it and stay safe.

cheers

Drives be easier to have the last six feet of track made out of stainless steel than get me to dig two more holes for railroad track posts in that root infested ground.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: i'm hoping you'll figure something out besides letting the end of your mill sit out in the weather even though i'm sure it might not rain in your area as much as it does here. speaking of that i know of several mills that owners have just sitting out in the open around here so you might be right to just put on an extra coat of paint and maybe some grease or oil and call it good.

speaking of milling wood here's a picture of a portion of the 2x6 red cedar i'm buying from a mill in my area. it's taken him almost all summer to get the logs to get me some clear wood.

what do you think of this quality and guessing it's 2nd or maybe 3rd or 4th growth cedar cause old growth is a bit spendier and rare even around here.

cheers

 

[bolensboneyard]

drives looks good to me. I may eventually put a shed roof over the six feet covering part of the opening. I have to see if the trade off with the cross breeze is worth it.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Finally got to take some pictures of the progress.

 

[1/2 Cup]

Bobby, you have done well, looks great..

 

[bolensboneyard]

Bobby, you have done well, looks great..

Thanks Steve. Working on the other end now. All of the 1x12's were cut from a huge pine that sat about fifty feet from where the pole shed sits. The windows open out and were on my house back in the thirties. I found them when one of the dormers were ripped off. They were inside and louvers had replaced them for the last seventy or so years. I plan to rebuild the foundation for the sawmill and set it up with removable bench seats so we can have a sawmill breakfast in the spring for the model A club simply by putting plywood on the tracks the other side of the blade from the carriage. Thought it would be a neat setup. Should end up with about 16 feet of eating space staying a few feet from the blade which I would back up with wood for safety reasons; in case one of us old codgers should fall over on it.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Some of the support structure that was invaded by carpenter bees will have to be rebuilt once the pole shed is done. Got the other end closed in on the gable and some of the runners for the roof on. Also got my material for the 4x4 braces. I need to get the shed finished before I can form and pour cement. Everything by hand and cold weather is not good for concrete. All this plus the holidays will slow progress. We have been working six days a week. No kids, no grand kids, no paid help. Steel ankle bone is getting a work out.

 

[drivesitfar]

BB: it sounds like you are on a mission working 6 days a week on that mill and awesome shed. are you trying to beat the rainy season if you even have one or do you just want to GET R DONE?

also do you have a pile of wood to mill or just hoping to have the mill ready when you find a few logs?

have a great day sir and maybe if you are working 6 days a week is Sunday your rest day to smell the roses so to speak?

I was going to change my quote a few times, but I'm still getting PM's from members thanking me for posting it so i'm leaving it for now until another good one comes to mind.

cheers

 

[bolensboneyard]

BB: it sounds like you are on a mission working 6 days a week on that mill and awesome shed. are you trying to beat the rainy season if you even have one or do you just want to GET R DONE?

also do you have a pile of wood to mill or just hoping to have the mill ready when you find a few logs?

have a great day sir and maybe if you are working 6 days a week is Sunday your rest day to smell the roses so to speak?

I was going to change my quote a few times, but I'm still getting PM's from members thanking me for posting it so i'm leaving it for now until another good one comes to mind.

cheers

drives just trying to beat the cold weather. I never work on Sunday. I do have some standing pine and a small Magnolia that I have to pick up.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Up on the roof of the pole shed cutting furring strips. This is like clocking screws. Progress is slow as mornings are cold here now and the fingers are stiff; as is my ability to climb. Some more pictures of the mill operating works. Taking a break from the roof today to see if I can come up with enough scrap to make some brackets for my Y braces. Hope everyone is having a good holiday week.