Modern trim paint

[CraigStu]

Is there a paint that doesn't end up seeming to be a thin plastic coating that is impossible sand? I recently had to do some door jam replacement for the bottom 8-10 inches of each jam of the door to the deck. Got it all done and went to sand right at the joint of old and new wood. The paint on the old wood could be peeled off but trying to sand it to remove the step didn't work at all. I have run into this before but it was a real problem this time as I was trying to make the repair invisible. I finally filled the low spot w/ drywall joint compound and made sure I got three good coats of paint over it to seal out the weather.

 

[finn]

Was the old paint lead based?

 

[rjn2649]

I would almost bet you are dealing w/ lead paint. In our home, built in the 40's, we usually use paint stripper. I've also found a lot of the old paint wasn't really applied well. No one took the time to sand/prep the old trim. some of the old paint can be peeled right off in spots when you can get under it. Some of the paint just required a little bit of heat and it cam right off.
But remember make sure you are doing all this in a well ventilated area, avoid sanding dust.
Depending on how old your home is you are probably dealing with multiple coats of paint, maybe just all the same colour.

 

[like2wheel]

https://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us.../product-catalog/awiap/advance-interior-paint

 

[Dirtydan69]

I may not be lead paint. it may just be vinyl. That being said why waste time replacing a 12" section of jamb when you should just be replacing the entire jamb or installing a new prehung. If its that bad at the bottom I can almost guarantee there are more issues behind the rest of the jamb.

 

[like2wheel]

That being said why waste time replacing a 12" section of jamb when you should just be replacing the entire jamb or installing a new prehung. If its that bad at the bottom I can almost guarantee there are more issues behind the rest of the jamb.

I keep re-reading the original post but i cant find where he asked for an opinion about his jamb repair.

 

[CraigStu]

House was built in 2000 and I assume the door is original. Does that age rule out lead paint? We bought it in 2014. It looks to me that it was probably painted by the original owner probably when he was spiffing it up for sale.

 

[billspit]

To me, current exterior paint ends up being a layer of plastic over the wood. It can be peeled off, but doesn't sand worth a ****.

 

[yeldogt]

The modern all acrylic paints do make a film -- acrylic is plastic .... so yes. You should not be able to peel it off --- maybe a mismatch with the primer ....or no primer.

Joint compound is not really the best filler -- even the setting type.

Like2wheel -- linked to my favorite interior paint. Using the correct primer that BM paint looks like it's been sprayed

 

[tcianci]

If the house was built in 2000, It's not lead paint. The nature of nearly every water based paint is that it doesn't feather worth a ****. your best bet is to feather from the bare wood to the paint edge with a product like Elmers exterior wood filler and go easy on it with the sandpaper when you do blend it.
Also, I have been a die hard Benjamin Moore fan for decades and while their "Advance" is good paint. It will never lay out like their old "Satin Impervo" oil based enamel

 

[The Cobbler]

yeah, it's latex and it doesn't sand worth a **** ( like stated above)
best to feather it off with something. outside should be exterior rated .
I've used bondo in the past & had good results

 

[Handyfarmer]

the old trim paints were colored varnish,
about the closes to trim paint of the old is machinery enamel, or urethane floor/porch paint, yes it is oil based, but if you want the hardness and durability of the old that is about the only thing out there that is close,

even in the OLD days, a lot of the paint was plastic then as well, lacquers is a plastic, and phenolic resin, and so are Alkyd resins, sometimes oils are mixed in with the phenolic and or alkyd resins, linseed (boiled) or tung oils,

latex is not plastic but rubber,

acrylic is a plastic that is usually harder and more durable than latex, normally both are water based,


this link explains varnishs some what, https://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/the_many_faces_of_varnish/

 

[Kielpo]

Advance by Benjamin Moore and never look back.

 

[yeldogt]

If the house was built in 2000, It's not lead paint. The nature of nearly every water based paint is that it doesn't feather worth a ****. your best bet is to feather from the bare wood to the paint edge with a product like Elmers exterior wood filler and go easy on it with the sandpaper when you do blend it.
Also, I have been a die hard Benjamin Moore fan for decades and while their "Advance" is good paint. It will never lay out like their old "Satin Impervo" oil based enamel

Nothing flowed like the last generations of oil paints -- loved Dutch Boy oil back when it was an independent company. Just out of college (80's) I restored a 19th century federal in Philadelphia w/ lots of wide millwork with DB. ... actually held off repainting ... went with the BM advanced after trial and error. It's my go to paint now.

 

[Dirtydan69]

I keep re-reading the original post but i cant find where he asked for an opinion about his jamb repair.

No he didn’t oh great defender of the op. I’m just offering my sage advice from years of experience in the trade. It he wants to jury rig and patch something on his house then that is certainly his prerogative. Personally if it was my house I’d replace, just saying. What he is doing is something you would do on a rental or for a Realtor that want to close a deal. Not something on your own home. But hey, WTF do I know.

 

[like2wheel]

No he didn’t oh great defender of the op. I’m just offering my sage advice from years of experience in the trade. It he wants to jury rig and patch something on his house then that is certainly his prerogative. Personally if it was my house I’d replace, just saying. What he is doing is something you would do on a rental or for a Realtor that want to close a deal. Not something on your own home. But hey, WTF do I know.

Wow. Sorry if i touched a nerve. I had no idea you had such intimate knowledge of his situation and his "jury rig" repair that he hardly mentioned.

Myself, since he wasn't asking, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt- but hey, you be you.

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[theoldwizard1]

Modern latex paint is "odd". Is actually takes several MONTHS for it to cure completely and continues to get harder and harder.