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I am thinking about buying a used Mohawk lift they have a lifetime warranty on the hydraulic cylinders and 25 years structurally and like most things the warranty is only to the original purchaser and is not transferable that is what Mohawk told me on the phone today has anybody ever had any issues with Mohawk over warranty?or warranty problems in general?
Has anybody received warranty from a Mohawk dealer on a used lift they have purchased?
Thanks for any reply's.

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No but what I was told after the install that only applies if you have an annual inspection at about 100 a pop or so. I would have just as soon did my own install but the dealer fussed about it. The installer was ok, he asked me after how long I thought he had been doing this, I didn't answer, my guess would have been about 2 weeks but he said 6 months.
 
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Mohawk didn't mention anything on the phone about having it installed by a company and having it inspected annually to keep the warranty valid,interesting point thanks for posting I will be asking those questions.
I wish Mohawk had their warranty policy and all the fine print posted on their website for buyers to read.
Maybe used would be the way to go if that is the case,if a warranty claim is going to be hassle.
Given the price of their lifts warranty shouldn't be a hassle.

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No but what I was told after the install that only applies if you have an annual inspection at about 100 a pop or so. I would have just as soon did my own install but the dealer fussed about it. The installer was ok, he asked me after how long I thought he had been doing this, I didn't answer, my guess would have been about 2 weeks but he said 6 months.

I called Mohawk today again and spoke to Ray nice guy to deal with and answers any questions one might have he told me that anybody that buys a Mohawk lift can choose to install it themselves including the home guy and a annual inspection is not required to have/maintain the factory warranty.
On that note I was also told that if somebody buys a used Mohawk lift from a Mohawk Dealer there is no factory warranty from them I have read some other posts here on the forum from members that have purchased Mohawk lifts from dealers and it came with the factory warranty it does not.They would have to get the selling dealer to pay for any warranty repairs should they arise.Chances of them paying 10 years down the road I would think are slim to none.

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My dealer lied to me then. I wish I would have checked further in to that. They seized some pins I had to fix. Drilled holes crooked, dam near wrecked the pumping unit with amateur rigging. Couple of the adjustments were nothing to write home about.

I was hesitant to say much but the lie part pizzes me off more than the installation job.

I want to say I regret the lied to me statement, thats a little harsh, lets say they may have spun their own version of policy, maybe its theirs and not Mohawks.
 
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I wasn't impressed with the installation either (the installer showed up missing two overhead SS hydraulic lines, then proceeded to be pissed off when he had to piece together and flare them). I also ended up re-adjusting the lift as well as touching up the paint throughout upon their departure.
 

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I wasn't impressed with the installation either (the installer showed up missing two overhead SS hydraulic lines, then proceeded to be pissed off when he had to piece together and flare them). I also ended up re-adjusting the lift as well as touching up the paint throughout upon their departure.

Can't comment on the adjustments, but they certainly should have done 2 things ... 1.) touched up the marks on the lift and 2.) Given you the can of touch up paint for future scrapes.
 

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when I installed my own, it came with the touch up paint and all the parts. The hydraulic lines didn't need flaring if installed as per the exact directions but due to needing to install the posts 6 inches closer than the manual says I had to flare them. For that I went to my local hydraulic guy who did the job. The lines are 5/16 (if memory serves me but anyway..) and are stainless steel. They can't (IMO) be flared by one of those junky hand flaring tools. It was probably the best $50 I spent and the install was simple, and best of all, zero leaks.

The install is easy and if you're buying a lift to do auto repairs, it just kind makes sense that you should be able to install the lift. I wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

The icing on the cake was after I'd installed the lift I called Canadian Powertrain (where I bought the lift) and talked to one of their installers with a question I had. He couldn't answer it and some of the other things I knew/found out/did etc, weren't known to him either.... I'm thinking the installer "course" is pretty short and doesn't include donuts...
 
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Speaking of paint,Mohawk does not paint the bottom underside of their column base plates which I found odd so I asked that question as well (Why Not)since every other lift manufacture does and that is were they rust first because of washing the floor,snow,etc they don't because the columns are standing up right on the floor not hanging in the air in the paint booth like the other brands.I think somebody should paint them manually than after it leaves the paint booth IMO maybe some people don't care but to me who wants a new piece of equipment to rust right away.

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I had a price quote today from a company in Ont not Garage Supply they were advertizing on their website as a dealer of Mohawk lifts so I called them and asked for a price on 3 lifts the fellow said he would have to call me back or email it so I had him email it I asked why not since others dealers quoted right away they said they didn't have the prices right there that set a red flag so I called Ray come to find out they are not a official Mohawk dealer they don't stock parts either they just order from a book.
Garage supply is the sole Mohawk dealer in Ont and they called them to get a price than marked it up way high and quoted me than had the nerve to ask me what price they quoted me.
They also told me that if you buy a lift in the US and bring it to Canada or vise-verse there is no factory warranty I called Ray back and that is not true Mohawks warranty is covers the US and Canada to the original purchaser.

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I wish I would have checked further in to that.
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I wasn't impressed with the installation either (the installer showed up missing two overhead SS hydraulic lines, then proceeded to be pissed off when he had to piece together and flare them). I also ended up re-adjusting the lift as well as touching up the paint throughout upon their departure.
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I would have called Mohawk directly and explained what the installer did if it was a brand new lift ,but than again I would/will be installing it myself to be sure it is done right.

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My general experience is that the distributors aren't very helpful but the factory is. I bought a System I 10,000lb new and installed it myself. I ordered it through the distributor instead of going direct to the factory (I've heard you can do that) thinking I'd get better after sale service later. I was wrong. I customized the hydraulic lines as well. Swagelock makes compression type fittings that you can buy for splicing lengths, elbows, etc. There's nothing wrong with falring them, or using the compression connectors. Just make sure they are hydraulic pressure rated. I'd never done hydraulic lines before and even bought some extra seamless tube ahead of time just to find out that Mohawk uses the exact same brand line. I had zero leaks the first time I put fluid in.

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My general experience is that the distributors aren't very helpful but the factory is. I bought a System I 10,000lb new and installed it myself. I ordered it through the distributor instead of going direct to the factory (I've heard you can do that) thinking I'd get better after sale service later. I was wrong. I customized the hydraulic lines as well. Swagelock makes compression type fittings that you can buy for splicing lengths, elbows, etc. There's nothing wrong with falring them, or using the compression connectors. Just make sure they are hydraulic pressure rated. I'd never done hydraulic lines before and even bought some extra seamless tube ahead of time just to find out that Mohawk uses the exact same brand line. I had zero leaks the first time I put fluid in.

Brian

The only way you can order directly from Mohawk is if there are no dealers in your area.
I had asked them about buying directly.
What brand of stainless tubing do they use?

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My general experience is that the distributors aren't very helpful but the factory is. I bought a System I 10,000lb new and installed it myself. I ordered it through the distributor instead of going direct to the factory (I've heard you can do that) thinking I'd get better after sale service later. I was wrong. I customized the hydraulic lines as well. Swagelock makes compression type fittings that you can buy for splicing lengths, elbows, etc. There's nothing wrong with falring them, or using the compression connectors. Just make sure they are hydraulic pressure rated. I'd never done hydraulic lines before and even bought some extra seamless tube ahead of time just to find out that Mohawk uses the exact same brand line. I had zero leaks the first time I put fluid in.

Brian
Thanks, that's good to know since I'm thinking about buing one soon!
 

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i wish mohawk had their warranty policy and all the fine print posted on their website for buyers to read.
Maybe used would be the way to go if that is the case,if a warranty claim is going to be hassle.
Given the price of their lifts warranty shouldn't be a hassle.

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Mohawk Warranties
Effective date: 5/7/2007*​

General Warranty Information:
Mohawk’s obligation under this warranty is limited to repairing or replacing any part or parts returned to this factory, transportation charges prepaid, which prove upon inspection to be defective and which have not been misused. Damage or failure to any part due to freight damage or faulty maintenance is not covered under this warranty. All warranty claims must be performed in accordance to mohawk’s warranty parts return policy (contact mohawk’s service department for more information). This warranty does not cover mis-diagnosing of unit or parts returned that are non-defective. This warranty does not cover any consequential or incidental damages including,but not limited to, lost revenues or business harm. This equipment has been designed for use in normal commercial vehicle maintenance applications. A specific individual warranty must be issued for units that deviate from intended usage, such as high cycle usage in industrial applications, or usage in extremely abusive environments, etc. Mohawk reserves the right to decline responsibility when repairs have been made or attempted by others. This warranty does not cover downtime expenses incurred when unit is in repair. The model name and serial number of the equipment must be furnished with all warranty claims. This warranty statement contains the entire agreement between mohawk resources ltd. And the purchaser unless otherwise specifically expressed in writing. This non-transferable warranty applies to the original purchaser only. This warranty is applicable to units located only in the united states of america and canada. Contact mohawk resources ltd. For specific warranty provisions for units located outside of these countries.

Structural components (all lifts):
All structural and mechanical components of this unit are guaranteed for the below stated time frame, specific to model listed, from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when lift is installed and used according to specifications.

5-year: Models a-7, system ia, system ia-10, tomahawk-9000, lmf-12, tp-15, tp-16, tp-18, tp-20, tp-26, tp- 30, & tl-7.

3-year: Models tr-19, tr-25, fl-25, tr-33, tr-35, tr-50, tr-75, tr-110, tr-120, mp-series, rp-series lifts.

2-year: Models parallelogram series lifts.

1-year: Models hr-6, td-1000, ct-1000, usl-6000.

Power unit (all lifts):
All power unit components (motor, pump and reservoir) are guaranteed for two years for parts (one year labor), from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when the lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Hydraulic cylinders (model specific lifts):
See mohawk’s “extended lifetime cylinder warranty” for specific warranty provisions for hydraulic cylinders. The “extended lifetime cylinder warranty” is applicable to the following mohawk lifts only: A-7, system ia, system ia-10, lmf-12, tp-15, tp-18, tp-20, tp-26, tp-30. All other models are guaranteed for two years parts and one year labor (except hr-6, which is one year parts only), from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when the lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Electrical components (all lifts):
All electrical components (excluding motor) are guaranteed for one year for parts and labor, from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when the lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Pneumatic-air components (all lifts):
All pneumatic (air) components (i.e. Air cylinders and poppet air valves) are guaranteed for one year for parts and labor, from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when the lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Standard options (all lifts):
All standard options of this unit are guaranteed for one year for parts and labor, from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Special and/or customized lifts and options:
All “special” lifts and/or “customized” options on this unit are guaranteed for one year for parts only (excluding labor), from the date of invoice, against defects in workmanship and/or materials when the lift is installed and used according to specifications.

Warranty exceptions (all lifts):
Adjustments: This warranty does not cover casual and routine adjustments such as, but not limited to: Fittings, j-bar adjustments, anchor bolt re-tightening, or any shimming or adjustments required during a proper and professional installation by a qualified installer.

Maintenance and inspections: If this unit is not maintained and inspected in accordance to the relevant sections in the users manual for this specific model, warranty is suspended until the lift condition is proven to be to mohawk’s satisfaction (any current claims will not be paid until this requirement is met). Osha, ansi and mohawk require that
records must be maintained to prove that inspections and maintenance of this unit have been routinely performed by qualified individuals.

Abuse: If this unit is found to be overloaded (purposely or unknowingly), used in a situation beyond its intended function, not maintained or inspected regularly, or used in an abusive environment, etc., this warranty is void in its entirety.

Non-existent problems: For service visits, part replacements, labor, etc. For parts found to be non-defective, or for a
unit dis-function that does not exist, it is the lift owner that requested the service visit who bears the responsibility
of all related expenses.

Batteries: All batteries carry the battery manufacturer’s warranty. Maintenance requirements and abuse provisions
are as stated by the battery manufacturer. Refer to battery manufacturer’s warranty.

* this warranty supersedes all other warranty policies previously stated and in all other mohawk product specific literature (manuals, brochures, etc.).
 

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I really don't see a large likelihood of needing warranty especially for low use situations like ours. I am not a muffler shop or changing oil on specials etc, heck can go a week or more without using it. I would have to wonder what constitutes "qualified personnel" and this is true of so many places not just this, you never know if its someones first week on the job or is someones bro-in law etc.

Nothing real bad here, not a bad product, I would say maybe the salesmen at the dealers pitch a bit of their own story, the installers could use a little work in some cases.
 
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I wish I would have checked further in to that
 
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I will ask Ray about that the next time I talk to him I will also ask him about the record keeping.

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It's a bit off topic, but those buying used Mohawk lifts may need to make new lines. The Tube that I bought and what came with the lift is described as stainless seamless tube. Here's all the info on a piece:
SANDVIK 08-11CF SMLS HN 528470 SC LOT 359618 (NDE) TP304/TP304L MT304/MT304L 3/8" X .035 ASTM A213.A269/A511 ASME SA213. Basically all you need is the TP304/TP304L MT304/MT304L 3/8" X .035. I bought it from the local swagelock dealer in 20' lengths and was surprised when Mohawk sent me the same make, model, brand. If you are making your own lines I highly recommend buying their Swagelok tube bender. It isn't cheap but it's made of stainless and makes beautiful kink free bends. Keep in mind that I bought the System I 10,000lb lift. Other larger lifts may use larger or heavier wall tube as the System I has a pressure relief set at 2650psi.

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how much are the mohawk 10k 2 post and why did you go with them over say gemni, rotary etc. thanks.
 
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how much are the mohawk 10k 2 post and why did you go with them over say gemni, rotary etc. thanks.

I haven't bought one yet I have been do my homework on all the major brands
Most and including Rotary are made in China at least so I have been told.
The Rotary is expensive too.
The Mohawk is USA made they use Balder electric motors,etc. and they have the best warranty out there from what I have read.
The 12K is 11,000 and change but I can buy a new 16K for 10,495 go figure.
I would buy the 16K but that is a lot of money.
I have been looking at Bendpaks as well.

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I worked on mine today. There was a problem with the locks and latches, it never worked sellar from the start and part was installer error, adjustment and the pieces are just dry. I spray penetrating oil on themoving parts pins, the weight and geometry are fussy and it it doesnt hang plumb it doesnt fully latch, some fussing with cables helped and now it works right.
 

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Someone asked about a Mohawk cost, so I'll list that. In round numbers, including tax, shipping and a $100 weight gauge, my System I 10K came to $7300. And about the Baldor motor, I'm still looking for mine. Maybe the larger ones come with Baldor but mine came with a US motors made in Mexico. Still a name brand motor but not as nice as a Baldor which is not as nice as a Reliance... Oh wait, Reliance sold out to Baldor.

Here's my motor nameplate picture. The power "unit" was made by Bucher Hydraulics in Grand Rapids MI, but the attach a made in Mexico motor.

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