Monster Vise Stand

[michelin]

I think I found myself a monster vise. Expecting it be in range of 200 lbs. It's a good 3-4 weeks and 500 miles away but I thought I'd start gathering some input on where and how to mount it. I'm not putting it on a rail outside as I want to use it indoors. It won't be a display piece either but I bet it will attract a lot of attention.

I looked at fabbing a stand for a smaller vise recently but used it elsewhere instead. Having come across this massive beauty (pics as soon as it lands here), I just couldn't resist. Given the size and weight, what would you recommend to use for making a stand? I could probably build a four legged stand as I want some sort of mobility out of it. Or anchoring it into the cemented floor the only option?

Anyway, feel free to throw some ideas guys. I'm excited!

 

[drivesitfar]

MICH: congrats on your vise find and i hope you have it bought or held by a reliable person before opening it up to the internet. don't say too much more about the vise unless you know for certain you are getting it. if you can tell more details like a brand name and model # i'm sure somebody has already made a stand for one that you could copy or improve on.

that said there are many many options for a vise stand for a big vise and here's a thread to get you started. i doubt you won't find something in this thread that you'll like, but not sure what materials you have and what your skill level is.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stands

if you have amazing skills you might check out Royce's vise stand threads in the fabrication section. he made one vise stand out of a fire hydrant for his 175 pound vise.

there are also several nice stands that have been posted on the big vise thread in general tools section since October so you won't have to read all the posts. your vise might be in that thread cause some members do have some big vises so check it out.

good luck

 

[michelin]

MICH: congrats on your vise find and i hope you have it bought or held by a reliable person before opening it up to the internet. don't say too much more about the vise unless you know for certain you are getting it. if you can tell more details like a brand name and model # i'm sure somebody has already made a stand for one that you could copy or improve on.

that said there are many many options for a vise stand for a big vise and here's a thread to get you started. i doubt you won't find something in this thread that you'll like, but not sure what materials you have and what your skill level is.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252799&highlight=vise+stands

if you have amazing skills you might check out Royce's vise stand threads in the fabrication section. he made one vise stand out of a fire hydrant for his 175 pound vise.

there are also several nice stands that have been posted on the big vise thread in general tools section since October so you won't have to read all the posts. your vise might be in that thread cause some members do have some big vises so check it out.

good luck

Thank you for a detailed response. I won't be revealing the details of the vise until after I've taken a delivery. It is paid for so it's pretty much a done deal but as you say, there may be others on the hunt so I'll be keeping my mouth shut for now.

I'll have a look at the thread shortly. I had an idea of sourcing some cast iron stand off something industrial/agricultural for it, just haven't found anything suitable yet.

I will keep this thread updated. Thanks again.

 

[michelin]

My last '200 pound vise' was a 6n
It is not 200 lbs.
People guess wrong.
Look up the weight or pm someone knowledgeable here and tell them what you're paying and what it is. You don't say bought or gifted.
You might have screwed yourself a bit.

Do not pm me. I don't know about your vise. I know about people.

Ducksface, thanks for your reply too buddy. You know before I even found the vise I thought of PM'ing you to ask your opinion whether I should buy it or not and what should I pay for it. (I didn't).

I've no idea what "6n" is but what I bought is not it. I may bring my wife's bathroom scale and weigh it when it arrives. We shall see.

I will PM you though. I just have a feeling that you know a lot.

 

[KMScott]

I think I found myself a monster vise. Expecting it be in range of 200 lbs. It's a good 3-4 weeks and 500 miles away but I thought I'd start gathering some input on where and how to mount it. I'm not putting it on a rail outside as I want to use it indoors. It won't be a display piece either but I bet it will attract a lot of attention.

I looked at fabbing a stand for a smaller vise recently but used it elsewhere instead. Having come across this massive beauty (pics as soon as it lands here), I just couldn't resist. Given the size and weight, what would you recommend to use for making a stand? I could probably build a four legged stand as I want some sort of mobility out of it. Or anchoring it into the cemented floor the only option?

Anyway, feel free to throw some ideas guys. I'm excited!

michelin, the big vises use a pretty heavy duty stand. A few company's like Reed and Prentiss built vises for the railroad yards and I added a drawing of one that I measured. It comes down to what materials you have available and how you want to use it. If you plan on moving it around then a wide base should be used or if you have a spot for it then anchor it to the floor. I added a pic of a stand I made earlier this year for a 180 lb Parker and the combined weight is just a little under 500 lbs but easily moved.

Drivesitfar started a thread about vise stands and maybe look through the pages and see if one fancy's your taste. I would suggest making your stand height with the vise on it and having the top of the jaws at the height of your elbow. That is where I like mine.

 

[Bobioz1]

My last '200 pound vise' was a 6n
It is not 200 lbs.
People guess wrong.
Look up the weight or pm someone knowledgeable here and tell them what you're paying and what it is. You don't say bought or gifted.
You might have screwed yourself a bit.

Do not pm me. I don't know about your vise. I know about people.

That cracks me up! Thanks

 

[michelin]

 

[454ragtop]

Nice vise, not sure I'd call it a monster..........

 

[LXCam]

Well that's certainly a very cool vise. But I'm thinking ya might have some issues operating it like that.

Who is the manufacturer? And I wonder why they thought having the slide extend below the mount was a good idea? Ya know what, after a second look I'm thinking that unit came with a base plate that's obviously missing. I'm sure someone here will know what the deal is.

 

[meatsis]

Definitely a cool looking vise, but like 454 said I don't know if id call it a monster. Why is it tilted up? Is there a lip there that's supposed to go up against the edge of the bench?

 

[Bcom]

Leinin? Boley? Schlegel?

 

[8t6bronco]

It looks to me like it should be turned around on that piece of I beam

 

[ChargerRT]

cool looking vise... did you throw it on the scale yet?

 

[DieselDent]

Here's some inspiration for a mobile stand, this is my Reed 406R (175lbs I think) on a military surplus stand. Not sure what they used it for but it weighs 200lbs and lifts about 2ft. I've had some pretty large and long pieces on it and it hasn't even hinted at tipping.
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[LXCam]

I believe that stand is a caddy for aircraft drop type items like bombs and fuel tanks and pods.
It would come with a saddle customized for some things, generic for others.

There might be hooks on the bottom for securing to eyes on deck.

The OP's??......how bout a chunk of I-beam.

 

[LXCam]

Copy on your answer. I thought it was a home made jobby..

I'm sure it's a combination of a 30mm lens and the tilt of the vise, but does the OP vise appear to have a warped base? Front to rear, based on the casting that goes through the hold down bolt?

No, the slide extends below what would be the base portion. I think this vise originally had the base (a separate casting) bolted to the upper carriage.

 

[michelin]

Thanks for the input guys.

Nice vise, not sure I'd call it a monster..........

Well that's certainly a very cool vise. But I'm thinking ya might have some issues operating it like that.

Who is the manufacturer? And I wonder why they thought having the slide extend below the mount was a good idea? Ya know what, after a second look I'm thinking that unit came with a base plate that's obviously missing. I'm sure someone here will know what the deal is.

Definitely a cool looking vise, but like 454 said I don't know if id call it a monster. Why is it tilted up? Is there a lip there that's supposed to go up against the edge of the bench?

Ok, it is not a monster but it's still fairly large. Jaws are 7" wide and open 10.5". The static jaw base measures 26" from the handle.

I have a pair of Swiss made Gressel vises mounted to a welding bench so I'm very used to the dove tail vises that slide backwards. This specimen was made by Eikar Werkzeuge in Cologne, Germany I believe before the WWII.

Leinin? Boley? Schlegel?

It's neither buddy. Eikar is what it says on its side. Google says that Eikar made large vises generally over 50 kg in weight.

It looks to me like it should be turned around on that piece of I beam

This is how it came. Makes it usable and movable (somewhat) for now. I do plan to fab some sort of stand for it to raise to at least waist height.

cool looking vise... did you throw it on the scale yet?

Thanks but not yet. I will take it apart at some stage to clean and grease it and will weigh each piece individually.

 

[RBFD415]

Here's some inspiration for a mobile stand, this is my Reed 406R (175lbs I think) on a military surplus stand. Not sure what they used it for but it weighs 200lbs and lifts about 2ft. I've had some pretty large and long pieces on it and it hasn't even hinted at tipping.
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Looks to me like a droid character from an upcoming Star Wars movie!

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[dutchgray]

Nice vice, big for a dovetailed rear slider, I'd bet it is at or near the 200lb

 

[Brad54]

What would you ever clamp in a vise that big, that would require the vise to come to the work, rather than taking the work to the vise?

I prefer a table for vises--gives you some place to set your tools as you work on the piece.

-Brad

 

[michelin]

What would you ever clamp in a vise that big, that would require the vise to come to the work, rather than taking the work to the vise?

I prefer a table for vises--gives you some place to set your tools as you work on the piece.

-Brad

Its first task will be to hold a diff which I'll load with lsd and gears. Easier to do it from above. It could do a great job holding a pair of exhaust mufflers that I had to open up a bit and refit with larger perforated pipes inside. The mufflers are of an awkward shape and I was tigging them up whilst holding between my legs lol. It can do all the work I had between my two smaller vises and then some. I will now probably retire a 4" small vise I have as two vises is more than enough for the stuff I do.

 

[michelin]

Nice vice, big for a dovetailed rear slider, I'd bet it is at or near the 200lb

Thanks. I don't have a scale big enough around at the moment but I the dynamic jaw alone weighs 70 lbs. The base feels like at least double that so you're not wrong there.

 

[drivesitfar]

MICHELIN: interesting vise. i would have thought it was a vise where the static jaw moves like a FPU Polish Bison or German Leinen. speaking of European where do you live? when you picked up the vise (vice) from the seller did he mention any history of the vise? any #'s or names on it that you've found?

Dutch: since the static is bolted down any idea who made this vise (vice)?

 

[3baygarage]

Nice pickup that's one whopper of a vise. What a cool advertisement to go with it.