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DFB

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Yup the haters gonna hate :spit:

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eaglefan1

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Im hating. After my hammer drill purchase from them to prepare for hurricane Ivan, I won't spend a dime in that place
 

Farmall450

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Sweet, yet another line using completely different batteries and chargers yet only carried by a single store. Real game changer, until you need parts :beer:

To be fair, though, they did beat Milwaukee to a push mower
 

eaglefan1

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So, you have issues with one tool you buy from them and everything they sell is ****?

Never said that. Said I wouldn't spend another dime in there.
I have a crazy knack for getting burned when I go the cheap route. Not just tools, but just about everything. Just the way it is for me.
Some guys have had great luck with their motorcycle jacks. I was thinking about one until a few of us had to go lift my buddy's road glide off of it when it wouldn't lift it off the safety deal. That was another thing that put me off of HF. But like a said some guys have great luck with their stuff. Im just not willing to gamble anymore
 

Matt_Paul

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I don't think it's that cut and dried. But, it does show up what their strategy is. Their strategy is not go build the best tools they can, and sell them cheap. Their strategy is to build a low end tool that they can sell to users that otherwise wouldn't or couldn't buy a better tool.



You see a tool they advertise, looks real good, color and style is made to imitate the market leader. You've owned the market leader, but the sticker shock is a bit high, or you don't need the best for the application you have in mind. Plus, they claim theirs "compares to" the best. And, it's guaranteed, right, because everything from HF is lifetime?



You buy, and the item is poorer performer, designed with a bunch of shortcuts, and when some absurdly simple thing breaks, you find it's not repairable. And, the warranty was not lifetime, it ended two weeks ago. You, being smarter than the average bear, recognize their strategy for what it is, and don't buy from them again. That doesn't make you a hater, except to the fan boys that have to justify THEIR purchases, to either themselves or someone on the internet that it's important to them to impress somehow.



HF's strategy is simple, and recognizing it for what it is doesn't make them a hater, it shows that they have become aware. The strategy is simple:



1) Pick a known good tool, (or line of tools) coveted by many, but expensive.,

2) Make a cheap asian made copy, with the appearance and color of the known good tool, but cut corners on it to get the price of making it down to about 10 or 20% of the cost of making the good one.

3) Price your tool at about 50 to 70% of the known good tool cost.

4) Put a guarantee on the tool that's either lifetime and just replace them as they come in, or put the guarantee just about how long the typical customer stores the tool before they really try to use it for it's intended purpose.

5) Make a great profit, and use it to build up your business.



Can't really blame HF, it's been a great strategy for success. You can argue that they're meeting the needs of their customers, because they are. Can't blame the low end buyers that don't need the real thing and have low enough demands to live with the low cost copy. For them, it's a great, cost effective way to meet their needs.



However, if you have a need for the more durable, capable, safe, and effective tool, HF is probably not for you. Just recognize it and move on. No hating, just buy an appropriate thing and leave this stuff for the users that it's suited for.



I personally don't see myself running out to buy orange copycat tools in this lineup.
I dont totally agree. Why do they have levels of tools then ? Wouldn't they just make the cheapest tool for the most profit?

Personally I've had great luck with most tools from there. The ratchets are legit can a screw driver really fail have you seen one because I haven't from any brand.

Also yes I know what "good " tools are I inherited a boat load of snapon tools from my grandfather.

I think I'm going to sell them for a small fortune to some sucker to finance my other hobbies.

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Professional Tool User

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They have me lost at the commercial grade and more powerful than gas parts. I'll be laughing if their cordless gardening tools if Ryobi outperforms Atlas.
 

BFBOB

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...but they spelled the name wrong. There's no T in ALAS.
 
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JRC3

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Can't wait to see the pure **** warranty on it. Heck, they might go all out and actually give a full year instead of the typical ****** 90 days.
 

JRC3

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A full year for only 12.99
Do you know that for sure? Because in a world with typical 3 to 5 year warranties on cordless tools, that's still pretty ******...So basically you have to pay $13 to go from total ****** to just regular ******.

:lol_hitti
 

Retroman

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I like HF but don't buy any electric, battery or gas tools from them. I stick to hand tools, supplies, rubber gloves etc.
 

Greeny

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Sweet, yet another line using completely different batteries and chargers yet only carried by a single store. Real game changer, until you need parts :beer:

To be fair, though, they did beat Milwaukee to a push mower

I see potential.

Buy it, use it till the batteries quit taking a charge, then strip it down, mount a 212cc Predator with a bunch of hop-up mods and a custom muffler/pipe.....
:thumbup:
 

bczygan

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I've been hoping for so long, that someone would start a thread about Harbor Freight, so I could understand their marketing strategy.

So far, I've only been able to walk into one of their stores and walk out with the tool I needed.

Now I can justify doing so...............or not!

Bill
 

Davefr

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I like HF but don't buy any electric, battery or gas tools from them. I stick to hand tools, supplies, rubber gloves etc.

Some more rules on what NOT to buy at HF:
1. Anything electric
2. Anything that cuts
3. Anything that is used for precision
4. Anything where failure could result in injury
5. Anything with moving parts
6. Anything with rubber
7. Anything that uses gasoline
 

Nineeightyone

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Some more rules on what NOT to buy at HF:
1. Anything electric
2. Anything that cuts
3. Anything that is used for precision
4. Anything where failure could result in injury
5. Anything with moving parts
6. Anything with rubber
7. Anything that uses gasoline

So what's left? :lol_hitti

Really though, I think that there's some gems in HF, though there's also some things I wouldn't buy again. One "gem" that comes to mind is the corded OMT, I bought it to get through just one job and figured when it died I'd have an excuse to buy the 20v Dewalt. Skip to a year later, the turd still won't die, and I can't justify buying the Dewalt yet.
 

Farmall450

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I see potential.

Buy it, use it till the batteries quit taking a charge, then strip it down, mount a 212cc Predator with a bunch of hop-up mods and a custom muffler/pipe.....
:thumbup:

Ah, the venerable 212cc Predator. It can make ANY tool cordless.

Do you know that for sure? Because in a world with typical 3 to 5 year warranties on cordless tools, that's still pretty ******...So basically you have to pay $13 to go from total ****** to just regular ******.

:lol_hitti

No idea of the actual cost. Probably varies with the tool. I imagine that's about what one costs them from the ol' People's Republic :lol_hitti
 
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