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More tools passed down, early proto tool boards and more!

montanafordman

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More tools passed down, early proto/plomb tool boards and more!

Hello everyone... Just thought I'd share the latest I received from the family, This one with a surprisingly cool story! (sorry its a bit long) I'll try not to confuse or overcomplicate this but here's a shot at the back story...To start, both of my grandfathers (mom and dad's parents) lived in rural northern Montana and farmed there. My mom's dad was killed by a reckless(and probably drunk) driver before I was born and my Dad's dad passed away a few years ago. I've been fortunate to inherit some tools they both used on their respective farms in recent years. I have many memories with my Dad's dad but none on my mom's side other than working that farm growing up with my parents and uncle's who took over. Now owning many of the tools we used, and my grandfathers owned is a cool connection to my farming roots and a connection to a grandfather I admired and one I never knew.

My mom's parents and my dad's parents lived near, and in two different towns 6 miles apart. These were townships that were so small you'd miss them entirely if you blinked while driving by on highway 2. I knew that my mom's grandfather (my Great grandfather) owned a hardware store in the town my dad grew up in (but six miles away from where my mom and her family lived). I also knew my great grandfather died of a stroke when my mom was fairly young (1960) and that his hardware store burned down not long before that. My mom still has some blank carbon copy receipt books with my great grandfathers letterhead on it. I hope to get some copies of those as well! I inherited a nice condition pre 64 Winchester model 70 30-06 from my grandfather that he had supposedly purchased at his dad's hardware store. I also inherited a Plomb Toolmobile and some Plomb wrenches that I thought might have come from there but after my latest acquisition I'm sure of it!

This last summer I visited my grandmother (Dad's side) and went to the garage to hunt for some Ford Model A parts ( I inherited a 31 Model A too...:eek::D) and noticed in the corner some Proto Toolboards nailed to the wall above his workbench. They didn't have any tools hung on them, but I wondered if they might have come from my great grandfathers hardware store that had been in the same town many decades earlier?? I couldn't fathom how else or why my grandfather would have obtained them and they looked old and dirty. It was dark in there and I was on a time crunch to visit other family 300 miles away so I wasn't able to take much of a look but later told my dad about noticing them and told him I was interested in having them. "sure" he said so when he came out a couple weeks ago to visit he brought them!

After taking a close look you can definitely tell they were in a fire. There are silhouettes from wrenches on the board, yet I don't think my grandfather ever put anything on them, or not filled it completely anyway, and its not dirt that will wipe off. It looks like there is some blistering from the heat as well. My grandfather was the sort that would help anyone and literally give you the shirt on his back so I'm sure when the store caught fire he helped clean up and probably wound up with the tool boards. Remember this is my Dad's dad, and the store was owned by his future daughter-in-Law's grandfather. (almost sounds incestuous lol)

My Dad brought two out, and apparently there are two more he didn't have time or space in his vehicle to retrieve at the time so I'll probably get the others someday. Anyway on to the pictures!

Some of the wrenches shown on the board I have bought, and some came from both grandfathers. I plan to surf the swap meets and ebay to fill in the rest. One board is double open end, ignition, and tappet wrenches - and the other is punches, chisels, etc.

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I'm curious if there is a safe way to clean these a little? They do have a neat look though that I'm sure is smoke and fire related. They certainly show their age! I plan to give some of the wrenches an evaporust and polish treatment though, they will clean up nicely.

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These are some proto wrenches my grandfather (mom's side) owned that reside in his old Toolmobile. I never had the chance to meet him so this is kind of a cool way to connect. I'd bet he would smile knowing his grandson that he never met is using them today on an old Model A passed down through his son-in-law.


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A sneak peak at some other goodies in the Toolmobile.
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One of my favorite inherited tools is my grandad's long 1/2" SK ratchet.
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My Dad also brought out this craftsman -V- 3/4 socket set. About the only application I can use it for is pulling the hub and axle from my model A because the puller uses a 1-1/2 bolt. Never hurts to go big though! I'm hoping to get and restore an old ford tractor from the farm someday and I'm sure this could get more use then. I'm sure I'll find excuses to use it once in a while, its just too cool otherwise! It's interesting I was in sears the other day, and picked up the new Chinese version, and it wouldn't even freewheel/ratchet in one direction and just locked up when trying to turn it by hand. This one is nice and smooth..
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I must say.... I've been blessed...:D Having just a sister and no cousins on one side of the family helps too...:lol:
 
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I also got a massive (its BIG) tap and die set... The very large wood case has my granddad's initials on it too. Its pretty dirty and beat up so I think I will refinish the case and clean up the taps and dies a little. Pictures for that will come later...
 

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Nice stuff! That Craftsman 3/4 set is late 1970's early 1980's judging by that rectangular label. And I am liking that long early S-K 1/2 ratchet too!
 

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Really cool. I see some green behind the proto sticker and the model numbers are green, did Proto have a green logo ever? Would it have been plomb?
 
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Really cool. I see some green behind the proto sticker and the model numbers are green, did Proto have a green logo ever? Would it have been plomb?

Yep! I have seen evidence of that in the vintage toolboards thread located here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156591&page=3

I have also seen two green plomb logos. One that says Plomb Tool company and another lawsuit era one that says both Plomb and Proto on the label.

Since curiosity got the best of me, I decided to lightly use my fingernail on the less desirable tool board (which I still plan to hang and use - that holds punches/chisels/screw extractors) and see if the sticker would lift without destroying both the sticker and the paint underneath. I was able to peel off the sticker in one piece, and it was very rough and dirty anyway and see the Plomb logo underneath. Unfortunately some of the paint lifted too but the logo underneath is largely intact. The sticker almost protected the board from the smoke and fire damage. Here is what I found:

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Now I have a conundrum. The history with the fire is kind of cool, so I don't think I want to completely restore or clean these tool boards but I'd like to attempt to clean them lightly. I could easily reproduce the decal and put a fresh one over the top of one, or both boards, or leave them both as is. (one Proto and one Plomb) There are still 2 more at my granddads place too that I may obtain in the future and I'll have to figure out what to do with those as well. I think this is a personal choice rather than a value decision, since these boards do show some damage I have a hard time believing I'd be destroying any sort of value associated with them. If anything they could be worth more if they were carefully refinished/restored with new part numbers and sizes painted on in the same font, and the decals reproduced which is possible, but then you'd be out more time and money than they are worth anyway.

Your thoughts??
 

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I would make the boards how you like them because after all I believe they were meant to be used and enjoyed.


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Nice, and nothing but quality stuff there! Although, quality was more the norm in those days ....
 

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I kinda like your idea of leaving one with the proto sticker and 1 of the plvmb logo. The way the fire etched the outline of the tools into the boards is really cool! Either way, they are super cool and will make you smile every time you see them! Hang em up and enjoy them :0 You really hit the jackpot with the toolmobile, the tools and also the model a!
 

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The great ol Americana. Awesome tools,They don't make em like that anymore.

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That's amazing dude. You have tools that nobody could ever put a price on. Gramps would be proud knowing you're taking good care of his tools. How about some more pics?
 

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So jealous of those boards!! I recently picked a huge stash of old Proto sockets and need a board!! Ebay prices on those things (asking, not sold) are outrageous. If they hadn't come down through your family, I'd be pressing you hard to buy them off you. Enjoy reminiscing about what your Grandfather might have done with those tools!
 
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Here's an updated pic of the Plomb wrench board...I still have a few spots to fill but I did alright filling in some of the gaps. I did end up taking off the Proto sticker. I plan to reproduce that one and put it on the wall above the board so you can see both. The Plomb logo underneath was perfect. The Proto wrenches I found to be longer than their Plomb predecessors of the same part number so the proto wrenches seem to fit the charred outlines you see from the fire better. I should add, that I think the store burned in maybe 1959? Not totally sure. But it appears there was a mix of old and new stock on this board judging from the outlines. Most of these outlines are longer, but a few less common sizes have the shorter outlines where a Plomb wrench was probably still resting against the wood in the fire.


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That display board is amazing. Great story, both the family connections, and the Proto over Plomb sticker. Hope you can successfully repro the artwork for the Proto sticker. Someone into this stuff would probably appreciate some high-resolution pics of the Plomb sticker as well.
 
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