Morgan 140 Vise

[Catalyze]

When my wife and I got home this afternoon from signing tax forms, this was on the porch. My wife says "UPS must have left a package for the neighbors...we didn't order anything like this." Then she noticed what was sticking out of the end of the box.
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I tried to explain that you can't clamp aluminum in a vise that has ever clamped steel or it will cause Galvanic Corrosion. Therefore you have to own several vises from different years (in case one year was a bad year for cast iron). Mostly I scooped up the 54 pound box and tried to look manly. Any box that you can use metal shears and a box cutter to open is a good one. Here is old Morgan waiting to see daylight (or cool white).
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Spring has sprung and the Vises are blooming!
Craig

 

[csargents1546]

The next question, did she buy it. I am saying no, and you probably got on of those "You have to be shiiting me" looks. Nice looking vise.

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

I need to remember your explanations.....They might come in handy sometime when dealing with the wife...

"No honey, that 2 post life is rated for Japanese cars only, the 4 post is for the heavy Amercian cars" "You want me to be safe and live a long time don't you?"

 

[Catalyze]

I like to think of it as Man Physics and Man Chemistry. This is not to be confused with Beer Physics ......"Watch This!" or Beer Chemistry "I always double the amount the instructions say...no problems yet!"
Craig

 

[autopts]

Very clean Morgan. I just bought some jaws for the 4" from Milw. Tool. About $45 which isn't bad. Probably doesn't even need them.

 

[Catalyze]

Sometimes it's nice when companies are still in business and have parts to fit whatever you are working on. I can still buy parts for my old 1968 BMW R60/2 from the factory.
Craig

 

[ZRX61]

Pure genius!

I tried to explain that you can't clamp aluminum in a vise that has ever clamped steel or it will cause Galvanic Corrosion. Therefore you have to own several vises from different years (in case one year was a bad year for cast iron).

 

[alex71]

I see my vise-packing strategy is still paying dividends

 

[Catalyze]

I started taking the old Morgan apart last night. In a world of plastic push fasteners, the Morgan is refreshing.
Here is the swivel base bottom coming off.
View media item 8271After taking the lead screw collar off and pulling the screw out. It was time for the screw nut to come apart. Not plastic pin on this one.
View media item 8272The night ended with a Sea Foam Creep soaking of the jaw fasteners.
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A final thought: Any job requiring a hammer weighing 2 pounds or over and a piece of Santa Fe railroad track is a good job.
Craig

 

[Catalyze]

Here is today's progress on the beast. It is bath time for the Morgan. I never could find anything precise about how much soap to put in so I just tossed in 2 of the scoops that came in the Arm and Hammer box into about 4 gallons of water. The vise is connected by a length of mechanic's wire to a bolt through a base mounting hole (wrapped around a bolt and nut) on the negative lead. The positive is the 3 pieces of rebar. I am using my big charger set on 12 volts and low amp output.....about 2 amps.
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Here is the wiring diagram....LOL
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And of course......here is Vise Stew after 10 minutes.
View media item 8276Once again......thanks to all who posted before me about doing your vises. I am just trying to follow your soapy footsteps!
Craig

 

[Catalyze]

Here is a bit of an update on the Chicago Morgan 140 vise. After several "vise stew" sessions and a bit of solvent and scrubbing, the vise is clean.
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I used my big buffer setup to do some work on the handle end of the lead screw and it came out pretty nice. Then came the primer phase.
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And finally the paint. I had thought that I would use a different color entirely, but the Morgan just seemed to ask for a nice blue stock type of finish. A Morgan vise is my idea of what a standard USA made bench vise should look like. So it seemed fitting to put it back to a standard color. I will post the finished product in a few days after it all drys and gets assembled.
Craig
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[spongerich]

Looking good.

If you didn't mask off the little tongue that sticks out of the body, you'll want to wire brush or sand off most of that paint before you put it together. I left one painted and it made a mess and tended to stick a bit. It'll wear off eventually, but if you get rid of most of it before you put it back together it'll be a little easier.

I'm digging the blue. My Morgan 160 is going to be that same color. I also recently did a big Yost 32C in that blue and I really like it.

 

[gilbo]

catalyze look like it cleaned up great, but are u sure u wanna keep it FORD blue, seeing that u r a GM follower and all, HHHHH

 

[Catalyze]

Thanks!
It's all masked off with blue painter's tape so it looks like everything just got sprayed.....at least I remember that I wanted to mask it....LOL Ford Blue? Oh noes....I knew something was wrong.......
Craig

 

[ZRX61]

What's the difference between a Morgan 40 & a Morgan 140?

 

[gilbo]

What's the difference between a Morgan 40 & a Morgan 140?

my guess is 40 is non-swivel base, and 140 is swivel base

 

[ZRX61]

my guess is 40 is non-swivel base, and 140 is swivel base

That's what I thought, but I have both kinds on my bench & they're both 40's

 

[mofo62]

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Great Morgan Vise.perfect your work,ah Thanks for pictures.Congratulations.

V!

 

[gilbo]

That's what I thought, but I have both kinds on my bench & they're both 40's

is it possible some1 just added a base to one of the 40 you have somewhr down the line b4 u owned it ?????

 

[48James]

Nice job!

 

[whelenfan]

looks great!

 

[ZRX61]

is it possible some1 just added a base to one of the 40 you have somewhr down the line b4 u owned it ?????

Nope, the base of the vise is totally different.

 

[ZRX61]

ok, I'm officially a doofus...

I went out to the garage to check the Morgan twins...


& yes, the Swivel is a 140, not a 40..

brain fart..

 

[BJ42LX]

Here is the wiring diagram....LOL
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Catalyze (or anyone else), do you have a link to information on electrolysis rust removal? I know I've seen it before, but GJ Search doesn't work well for me.

 

[gilbo]

ok, I'm officially a doofus...

I went out to the garage to check the Morgan twins...


& yes, the Swivel is a 140, not a 40..

brain fart..

hmmm, no wonder u didn't win the lotto yesterday, u can't even read the numbers correctly,

 

[gilbo]

Catalyze (or anyone else), do you have a link to information on electrolysis rust removal? I know I've seen it before, but GJ Search doesn't work well for me.

here u go :
Electrolysis Link

 

[BJ42LX]

Thanks much...

 

[Catalyze]

Here are the final photos of the Chicago Morgan 140 Vise. I only had to assemble it and take it apart 3 times. I did things like forgetting to install the lead screw collar and bits of foolishness like that. I left every battle scar intact on this old warrior. The biggest one is where someone took a whole corner off the stationary jaw. I figure all these gouges and dents are just "Work Tattoos".
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And here is the Before Photo:
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And the After Photo:
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Thanks to all for help and comments! Every vise resto thread helped me in some way or some how so keep posting your good efforts.
Craig

 

[gilbo]

nicely done, its amazing what a little tlc will do

 

[Catalyze]

And to ask the question.....Does this vise make me look fat?
Craig
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[czr12x]

i have that same Morgan. i am going to clean it up just like you did. nice work.

 

[bhalv]

dang, nice vise. how big are the jaws on that wilton back there?

 

[czr12x]

Just wondering. Can the same procedure be applied to cleaning auto parts. Say a carb etc.

 

[SweetD]

Just wondering. Can the same procedure be applied to cleaning auto parts. Say a carb etc.

Yes. Do a search either on GJ or on the internet for "electrolysis"...it's awesome for cleaning steel.

 

[czr12x]

just threw an old rock island in the bucket this morning!
will snap a few shots in a day or two....

 

[j.t.d.]

Nice Morgan 140 resto. I just bought one a couple weeks ago. Can't wait to clean it up too. My "wife's" Parker 924 she bought in November is about 33 pounds more than my Morgan 140.

 

[skulldrinker]

Just got thisast night for $50. Had to drive 35 miles.

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