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karfever

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Trying to get a 56x36 building done in Tennessee. I have had a couple of stick built quotes around 45-50 per square foot. Morton gave me a price today of $58 per square foot, for JUST the insulated shell including doors. No concrete.

I am getting ready to abandon this project, as it is too hard to spend money in today's economy.
 
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What part of TN are you in....Middle TN, crossville to Jamestown has dozens of mennonite/amish builders that will even camp on your property and get a 30x30 done in a long weekend....and at a third of your Morton.

In defense of Morton, they generally have a tight, finished, quality building and will have it done when the contract says so. We have had a couple of horse and RV buildings done with them in MD.
 

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2016 sqft * 58 = $117K
Shell, no foundation. IE, metal and assembly. Yikes.

You guys don't have Mueller, but just a quick run puts bucksteel at $7 per square foot (kit only).

Don't give up on the first high bid. All-in-one is sometimes a series of GCs all adding margin. Find another supplier that is steel only and ask them for recommendations on erection.

My costs for 2400 sqft were about evenly split between building, concrete, and labor... About $25/sqft. It's HIGHLY regional and the construction industry down here has a lot of "labor pressure".
 

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What part of TN are you in....Middle TN, crossville to Jamestown has dozens of mennonite/amish builders that will even camp on your property and get a 30x30 done in a long weekend....and at a third of your Morton.

In defense of Morton, they generally have a tight, finished, quality building and will have it done when the contract says so. We have had a couple of horse and RV buildings done with them in MD.

We've had good luck with Morton too. No legal battles/unfinished work/substandard material might just be worth the price. :beer:
 
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I guess I need to keep after it after the Holidays. I am in West Tennessee, however when I lived in Michigan we had Amish do a lot of work on the farm and buildings. Great people and nice work for the most part.
 

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I had a 30 x 40 pole barn, insulated, fully kitted out with electrics, two garage doors, and plumbing just outside Memphis. Email me at [email protected], put "Pole Barn" in subject line and I'll give you the contact. About 15 years ago but was $28k for everything.
 

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I am also in West TN and have used Reeds Metals out of Jackson on a couple of buildings. There is a group of Amish builders in Linden that have built several barns for farmers in the the area. There are also some Amish in McKenzie and Paris that build.
 

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I'm in East TN and tried to work with Morton to get a quote on a 30 X 40. It was going to end up being over $70K but the sales woman was impossible to get in touch with so I just gave up on Morton and went with a reputable local builder. Going 32 X 42 concrete block for less than $60k
 

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I said the same thing when I got my Morton quote. No way I was buying a Morton!
But after I went around to view Morton buildings and the competitors buildings I wound up getting the Morton building and never looked back. Most
Of the competitors buildings started to look old after 5 to 10 years while The 25-30 year Old Morton buildings I looked at still looked brand new.

My Morton building is 10 years old and still looks as good as the day it went up.


Be careful with low ball bidders, the roofs blow off! See recent thread!
 
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Safe your money and wait till the economy gets soft. It will be way easier to get contractors attention and much better pricing.
 

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Safe your money and wait till the economy gets soft. It will be way easier to get contractors attention and much better pricing.

people are a little less busy currently ... busy -- but not backed up like a couple years ago. They still can't get help ... I'm not so sure it's going to get any cheaper ... not many young people going into the trades
 

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I have two Morton buildings, one built 20 years ago and one built 2 years ago. Both look identical color wise. No fading. Both are mouse proof. I couldn't be happier. Yes you pay more for one. I have no regrets. Also not rich.
 

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:(:(

Trying to get a 56x36 building done in Tennessee. I have had a couple of stick built quotes around 45-50 per square foot. Morton gave me a price today of $58 per square foot, for JUST the insulated shell including doors. No concrete.

I am getting ready to abandon this project, as it is too hard to spend money in today's economy.

I just compared your quote to mine from 10 years ago and yours isn’t even in the ballpark. I also went to the Morton site and found this pricing guide from 2018
https://mortonbuildings.com/blog/what-does-a-morton-garage-hobby-building-or-workshop-cost
Your quote isn’t even close to thier pricing guide and the buildings is the guide include concrete.

Wonder why yours is so much higher?
 

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My friends father has a Morton that's less than 20yrs old. The roofing metal coating has been flaking off for years. Paint only helped to long and has since had to replace the roof.
 

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At least some of you folks got get Morton to call you back. We tried contacting Morton on 3-4 occasions to quote a 40x64x14 with 1 12x64 lean to, along with a 12d 10x20 covered porch on the front, never heard back, either by phone or internet. We received their DVD packet in the mail but cannot get a call back. We even called their local office in Lenor City, Tn. (We will be building in the Crossville Tn area) Not even a call back from their local office? Moved on, talking with a local pole barn builder. Will be building late spring early summer. Looking like around 60K for everything, except electric and insulation (double bubble under the roof only) Gravel only under the lean to. I will be finishing the interior my self as time goes on, retirement shop/cave
I don't know if Morton would have been the right product for me or not but I am very disappointed in the fact they never took the opportunity to reach out
 

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I went with a local Amish builder. I had contacted Morton for a quote and they wouldn’t give one other than “we are more expensive than everyone else.”
 

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Get the building up and finish the interior yourself.

Morton does a nice building, there are several around here but there are also some very nice non Morton buildings too.
 

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We used Morton. Stopped at Sales office and made an appointment. Met designed building and signed the contract for building with insulated and finished interior. I would take care of dirt work, electric and concrete. As my wife was signing I received a call from a lumber yard we had also looked at. We had stopped there 3 times just to remind him we were waiting for a quote. His quote was for just a shell but I would have to find a builder. When I said I have already signed. His parting shot was “you get what you pay for”. That’s why we went with Morton. Materials showed up on time as did the crew. One week from start to finish for a 36 x 40. We are happy with how it turned out.
 
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karfever

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Doing a bit of re-design to see what it does to the costs. I had another bid come in for stick built, $70 per square foot, but that included electric, finished interior etc.
Regardless it is a bit demoralizing to save for years, retire and then find out that 100K wont buy much shop.
 
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I have two Morton buildings, one built 20 years ago and one built 2 years ago. Both look identical color wise. No fading. Both are mouse proof. I couldn't be happier. Yes you pay more for one. I have no regrets. Also not rich.

"Not rich" is relative... if you have TWO Morton buildings, you would probably be "rich" in my book. But, a few years ago, my then-teenage son was dating a really cute, sweet girl. She told him that the first time her father brought her to our house, he said something like, "WOW, you need to keep this guy, his parents are RICH!". We live in a $250K-ish house in a subdivision outside of Knoxville TN. His girlfriend lived in a rented trailer.

I also talked to (actually, emailed) Morton about a 30x40 building here. $75K was what I got back for a shell, including the insulation and foundation, but no electrical or HVAC. I am getting a stick-built garage done for less.
 
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IMO getting bids for complete 'packages' is the least cost efficient approach.

Contracting it yourself, finding the guys to do the work, maybe taking longer to get built, might be a cheaper end result.

Can you do any work? Retired and needing a garage to work in, maybe you have the skills to do electric, insulation, plumbing, insulation, paint, etc.

IMO taking out size isnt gonna have a big impact on cost. You'll just get more depressed.

Keep working it, you'll find a solution. If it takes 2 years, who cares? You're retired!
 

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:(:(

I am getting ready to abandon this project, as it is too hard to spend money in today's economy.

Markets at all time highs.
Unemployment rates low.
Employers can’t find enough qualified people.

Whats the problem in your area?
 

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Spec out exactly what you want. Not just size, but details also. Example, 4 ply glue laminated posts, 8 inch skirt board, etc. Get quotes with buildings local that you can check out if the owners will let you. These pole barn companies should have some local references available. If you do your diligence you should be able to get nice results at a fair price without have to go to court or have your roof fly off.

For price reference I have a 28x40. 10’ walls, 3 insulated garage doors, one man door and 5 windows, attic trusses with a stair case built for 40lbs/sqft. 5/8 osb on the roof shingled to match the house. 1/2 osb on the walls house-wrapped and vinyl sided. 36k for the building, 8500 for concrete. That puts the total at $39.73/sqft.

Expensive for some areas, but a grand slam for where I am. Stick built would have hit 85k and this will outlast me. I’m not building for the next owner.

Potential problems came be handled if and when they come!
 
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karfever

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That is what I was thinking originally, and I have decided to keep working the project until I get something reasonable without compromise. I waited a long time for this so a few more months wont hurt.

BTW- the current labor rate for Morton is 49 per hour per man. A bit high for the mid-south, regardless of the economy.
 

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Don’t be afraid to reach out either. The guys that built mine came from 4 hours away.
 

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Find out what the cost drivers are. Mine doubled in cost between building it on a flat lot and building it where I needed it with a 5 foot drop one end to the other. Foundation work can get expensive fast.
 

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Wow 100k should buy an amazing shop! I used amish builders for mine and also got a morton quote. Iirc the mortons was almost double what I ended up spending. So just keep reaching out youll find what youre looking for!
 

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Wow 100k should buy an amazing shop! I used amish builders for mine and also got a morton quote. Iirc the mortons was almost double what I ended up spending. So just keep reaching out youll find what youre looking for!

Too bad your build link includes blurred photobucket pics...
 

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There's a thread on here from a few years ago that was "72 year old couple build workshop." He built scaffolding himself, installed an electric winch, and worked at his pace.

As long as you aren't handicapped, it may take you a while, and it may be hard, but you can do a lot of it yourself if you plan well enough...before hand. Design it where you can build it yourself. Don't do walls over 10 or 12 ft, buy a scissor lift (sell when done), do rafters instead of trusses so you can do them yourself. Hire out concrete. My concrete guy was family of a work friend. He bids his on labor and you buy the materials.
 

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Hello everyone. I have been researching for some time after we bought a lot in Monroe County, Eastern TN this summer where we hope to retire. I would very much appreciate any references to (Amish or others) builders who can do a quality job on a 30x40 garage kit or even a 40x60 house ( barndomenium) Despite some of the horror stories on this forum and everywhere else on the internet, we are still very enthusiastic about post buildings. I believe so far the biggest challenge is to find a reputable local builder who knows these kind of structures and can therefore do the job right the first time. Any references would be much appreciated😊
 

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:(:(

Trying to get a 56x36 building done in Tennessee. I have had a couple of stick built quotes around 45-50 per square foot. Morton gave me a price today of $58 per square foot, for JUST the insulated shell including doors. No concrete.

I am getting ready to abandon this project, as it is too hard to spend money in today's economy.
At least you got Morton to send you a quote. I'm in Cumbrtland Co and called and emailed Morton numerous. No responce. Didn't even sent out there typical sales brochure.
They talk about providing a turnkey building. It is not. I have to clear area, fill the build site. Also they don't install the large garage door.
And to make the project easy for them I picked out one of their standard buildings, same colors etc.
Couldn't be any easier...

So I guess I'm back to either stick build, or find a hose that is for sale with a secondary garage.

Bummed out.

AL
 

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At least some of you folks got get Morton to call you back. We tried contacting Morton on 3-4 occasions to quote a 40x64x14 with 1 12x64 lean to, along with a 12d 10x20 covered porch on the front, never heard back, either by phone or internet. We received their DVD packet in the mail but cannot get a call back. We even called their local office in Lenor City, Tn. (We will be building in the Crossville Tn area) Not even a call back from their local office? Moved on, talking with a local pole barn builder. Will be building late spring early summer. Looking like around 60K for everything, except electric and insulation (double bubble under the roof only) Gravel only under the lean to. I will be finishing the interior my self as time goes on, retirement shop/cave
I don't know if Morton would have been the right product for me or not but I am very disappointed in the fact they never took the opportunity to reach out
This should be built by now, would you be willing to share who you used? Trying to find a reputable contractor either to erect or build, will be in Madisonville area, thanks
 

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Thank you, I would be glad to share. I used a Amish family out of Jamestown,( Millers quality contracting, if I remember the official name). John and Urey, I think that is the correct spelling of his name?. They had a crew of about 6 along with 2 drivers. Cannot say enough good things about these folks. They built me a great building and had a couple of great ideas for an issue meeting power line easements with my original covered patio design and were able to do them with no additional charges. Also wound up going with 66x40x14 with a 12x66 lean-to down the back. Original plan was 64x40 for 8' centers on the posts, using 8' centers I would be using the same number of posts as a 60' building. almost the same cost per sq ft to go 64 over 60 as the only real additional cost was 4 addition steel panels. The 66' came into play after we discussed adding the 10x10 door on the rear facing long wall and spacing those two trusses at 5' centers, all others on 4' c keeping every other truss over the top of a post. We cooked , smoked or grilled a lunch meal for them everyday they were here. Only delay was a few days waiting on the trusses. The work site was always clean during and at the end of they day. Pictures are day 1,2 and 3 to give an idea how fast they worked. last ones are some of the finished product. I subbed out the floor, O/H doors and the electrical service panel, doing all of the wiring myself. 90% of this building was done with a handshake, very little paperwork. can post more details or pictures if you would like.
Mike
 

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I had a 24x36x10 stick built, vinyl siding, metal roof with trusses designed for proper floor loading for upper storage rooms -- built during the first month of the pandemic, feb 2020. I won't mention the price because it will depress you folks who are trying to get things done today. But that is not why I am posting.

I pretty much was resigned that I would have to do without a garage on my new house because of horrible performance of local contractors, conservative financial management etc. But I had a chance encounter with an Amish builder when I just noseyed up to a site where he was finishing off a building project near me. When the owner shared the cost of the structure, I was looking at it seemed too good to be true but the Amish builder offered to stop by my place on his way home and sure enough he did. He took a quick look at the building site, told me what ground prep to do, went over some sketch pad specs about concrete pour, type of walls, roofing and over hangs, doors etc, and he said he had a month before his next commitment. Without further ado, I said let's get started prepared mentally for a big nasty cost overrun surprise somewhere. Just an old man about to get taken kind of worry. He gave me a list of materials including truss specs for me to use getting permit and I went to work digging out a bank with tractor to allow enough room for a driveway around building.

He always kept me informed as to when he and his crew would be here and simply got the job done, during some rainy, snowy days. I paid him in four installments as the build went along, but way behind what his already installed materials cost yet I was not too concerned about him walking just because of the nature of the guy. Top it all off, because of the "winging the specs" aspect of how we worked out our agreement, I had overlooked some things, but I would ask him during the build how much would he want to add some feature. This included plumbing for a bathroom in the pour ( I did the placing, he took care of during the pour), later added two windows, different garage doors, different siding, etc. Next day he would give a price and it was always a go and did not phase the man. That was simply because he was not hiding some profit cow somewhere in the build and he had the integrity to just answer my question honestly. He would simply tell me how much up charge to the build he would be happy with and we did it. I always reassured him I was happy with his performance and was not trying to get something for nothing in making these changes, and that I understood that he needed to include the cost of any impact my midstream changes would affect his profit margin, and if he did not want to deal with the change I understood.

These kinds of builders are out there. They seem to prosper, I don't think they are getting rich, but their life style protects them from much of the up and down aspects of the economy. When things are slow, they just do improvements to their farms and go with the flow.


Someone who doesn't want to understand what different things cost, and who cannot fill gaps a particular builder may have may find it impossible to work like I did with these guys, and might wind up with something that does not meet expectations, and no doubt there is some risk in not starting out with everything spelled out. But in my case, I wound up with far more than I could have possible gotten by trying to nail down everything from the get go in order to get a totally predictable cost.
 
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