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_brian_

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I have a motive brake bleeder that I have often just used the universal adapter for. Recently, I decided I should really start using the proper adapters, when it is something I will use more than once in my estimation.

For those who do not know, this is the site for the product line: https://www.motiveproducts.com/

My questions is mostly for those who have used one of their pressure bleeders, although the opinion of anyone is welcome as there is also that side of the opinion. In my case, I Am looking at the adapter for late model GM, part number 1108/1118. The difference, in general, is the first is a plastic cap and the second an aluminum cap.

1108: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000TYE16G/
1118: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YS8JW54/

At least on Amazon the price difference is ~$10. My question is simple, is the difference worth $10? One side of logic tells me that aluminum is more durable than plastic. The other side tells me that the factory cap is plastic and so it what it mounts to, so aluminum is more prone to cause other damage as it will be tougher than what it mounts to. I do not have either adapter in my hands, so I cannot address some simple logic like build construction.... so I cannot speak directly to build quality. However, one advantage I often hear is that the aluminum adapter creates a better seal, causing less leaks. However, again, the factory cap is plastic, so if the adapter is made of the same quality at least as the factory cap is, leaks should be of no concern.

The difference is only $10, so we are not talking a large difference here. But when getting more than one adapter, that $10 can add up as you add more.

EDIT: apparently there is no way to remove the web spam that is auto inserted placing tags on external links to Amazon, I tried :(
 
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dnschmidt

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Get the metal. One leaky plastic one that puts brake fluid all over the place and destroys your paint job isn't a savings. Brake fluid is better paint stripper than what you can buy at Home Depot these days.
 

Wiz02

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I use the universal adapter that came with the Motive brake bleeder that I bought many years ago, and while it's a pita, I don't use it often enough to buy the proper adapter for each vehicle. Last time that I used it, I had to replace all the hoses as they disintegrated from the brake fluid. I cleaned the pressure bleeder the last time I used it but residual brake fluid in the hoses turned them to dust.
 
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_brian_

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I use the universal adapter that came with the Motive brake bleeder that I bought many years ago, and while it's a pita, I don't use it often enough to buy the proper adapter for each vehicle. Last time that I used it, I had to replace all the hoses as they disintegrated from the brake fluid. I cleaned the pressure bleeder the last time I used it but residual brake fluid in the hoses turned them to dust.
Yeah, the hoses degrade fast, if you use it as it is intended. You can also use it dry, meaning that you only use the tank to supply pressure and either keep filling the reservoir or inject the fluid in after the pump (which requires a bit more in modification to the setup) but if you do it without filling the tank, is far better.

You can also get different hose aside from their selection, although a few years back, they changed the hosing to a more durable type.
 

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Yeah, the hoses degrade fast, if you use it as it is intended. You can also use it dry, meaning that you only use the tank to supply pressure and either keep filling the reservoir or inject the fluid in after the pump (which requires a bit more in modification to the setup) but if you do it without filling the tank, is far better.

You can also get different hose aside from their selection, although a few years back, they changed the hosing to a more durable type.
Yes using the bleeder dry requires the least cleanup, but you have to remove the adapter to keep topping off the master cylinder and replacing it, which is a pain when you are farting around with the universal adapter so it's a toss up to me.

I bought clear plastic hose from HD to replace the hoses the last time that I flushed the fluid, it will be interesting to see how they held up.
 
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