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[Motivx Tools]

Derek420 - Hello and welcome I like the matte chrome the best as every other company offers black and they all look same but will show oil staining more but you can wipe clean. The phosphate one looks nice to. I'd like to know if you will offer a filter socket for 2014 Chrysler town & country (Dodge caravan) I think it's a 24mm or 34mm can't recall. I had to change my wife's mothers oil and didnt have the socket I needed and ended up having to use a wrench and it didn't work good at all and marred the plastic cap up a little. Also I'd offer an oil filter pliers and the claw type removers as they are big now and I would look into the diesel and semi oil change market I can set you up with the right person at Lucas Oil Products Inc if you need an insight with an oil company that also has a truck shop and race teams as my wife's grandpa owns it. I will definitely be buying a set of the oil filter sockets.

Have you thought about sponsorships and auto racing? Good way to get name out.

Hi Derek420. Yes, most other companies use black oxide only. I'm glad to see matte chrome is most peoples preference. The phosphate finish is the best looking I think, but it's also the least durable.
That Town & Country uses oil filter housing part number 68191350AA but I can't tell what size it is. We own almost every oil filter housing made that we use for testing, but we don't have this one yet. I just ordered it so I'll get it measured out when it arrives.
We do have the claw style oil filter wrench (see the photo) but no pliers, yet. I haven't found anything I really like but I'm looking. The new sizes for our oil filter sockets will be 24mm, 27mm, 29mm, 32mm, and 36mm. We can add other sizes if those are needed.
We don't have a lot for diesel, but are working on something for Cummins right now. Any ideas here would be great.
We'll probably do some sponsorship down the road. Those can be costly and it's difficult to really determine how effective it will be.

 

[anndel]

I believe the Snap On impact sockets I have are EP and they are easier to clean than the Sunex set I have. Here's my vote.

1. MC
2. EP
3. BO

 

[Mastermind]

Matte chrome for sure.
And another vote for an oddessey funnel. I have another idea I'll pm you.

 

[Motivx Tools]

anndel - I believe the Snap On impact sockets I have are EP and they are easier to clean than the Sunex set I have. Here's my vote.

1. MC
2. EP
3. BO
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Mastermind - Matte chrome for sure.
And another vote for an oddessey funnel. I have another idea I'll pm you.

Thanks guys, matte chrome is clearly the winner so far. Mastermind, what's the year range for that odyssey funnel? Is it down in the engine bay like this:

 

[Greg85mcss]

That's the setup I was talking about but it's worse on the pilot. Very hard to fill them without using a skinny funnel & then you have to pour in a little bit then wait for it to drain or pour really slow.



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[Motivx Tools]

That's the setup I was talking about but it's worse on the pilot. Very hard to fill them without using a skinny funnel & then you have to pour in a little bit then wait for it to drain or pour really slow.

If it's not just a straight shot, it's going to be more difficult. We'll need to get a hold of one of those vehicles and foam cast the front portion of the engine bay from the top down to the oil filler cap to determine sizing, angle, etc. It looks like the pilot is worse because of the air intake tube.

 

[Motivx Tools]

So let me ask you all another question. When you buy a socket set (we'll say impact sockets), would you rather have it come in a metal case, plastic case, or do you not care because you're going to throw the case away and use a socket rail or other storage system? What are you're thoughts on this?

 

[Fedwrench]

I prefer no case as I use mostly mag rails to hold my sockets. I have way too many empty blow molded cases laying around.

 

[motofool33]

depends on my use if its for a mobile vehicle, car or truck i want a Nice sturdy Plastic Case.

or for a tool bag the Metal socket trays from the old days sure were nice.

 

[M6erfan]

Yep, depends. I mostly keep my sockets in toolbox drawers on rails. But for my 1/2" deeps I'm out of room in my toolbox so I keep those in their (very nice) Sunex case on the shelf under my workbench.

Also, some cases I've seen are horrible and aren't worth the thin cheap plastic they're made of. Socket cases, especially for larger sockets need to be very sturdy. Sunex and some Tektons are some of the best I've seen. On the other hand, the Gearwrench cases and SK cases are pretty poor IMO...

 

[Qualitytools]

So let me ask you guys a question. What's your personal preference on socket finishes? This finish will be for a line of oil filter housing sockets ranging from 24mm - 36mm in a 3/8" drive and have a low profile. These are primarily for applications that use the plastic oil filter housing that have the large hex nut molded into the top, although they can be used for anything. These will be forged steel sockets but are not impact rated. If you could choose between black oxide, electro phosphate, and matte chrome which would it be?

My preference would be Matte Chrome! Thanks for asking

 

[Motivx Tools]

Fedwrench - I prefer no case as I use mostly mag rails to hold my sockets. I have way too many empty blow molded cases laying around.

What if the case had a really nice EVA foam insert that could be removed and put in your tool box to hold the sockets. Would that be more valuable to you or still no?

motofool33 - depends on my use if its for a mobile vehicle, car or truck i want a Nice sturdy Plastic Case. Or for a tool bag the Metal socket trays from the old days sure were nice.

M6erfan - Yep, depends. I mostly keep my sockets in toolbox drawers on rails. But for my 1/2" deeps I'm out of room in my toolbox so I keep those in their (very nice) Sunex case on the shelf under my workbench.

Also, some cases I've seen are horrible and aren't worth the thin cheap plastic they're made of. Socket cases, especially for larger sockets need to be very sturdy. Sunex and some Tektons are some of the best I've seen. On the other hand, the Gearwrench cases and SK cases are pretty poor IMO...

Personally I'm very picky about cases for the most part. What do you guys think about something like this? The metal case would probably be red, not black.

 

[Motivx Tools]

My preference would be Matte Chrome! Thanks for asking

Thanks for your input!

 

[M6erfan]

What if the case had a really nice EVA foam insert that could be removed and put in your tool box to hold the sockets. Would that be more valuable to you or still no?

Personally I'm very picky about cases for the most part. What do you guys think about something like this? The metal case would probably be red, not black.

You and me both. That case looks very nice

 

[buckwheat_la]

Plastic for myself

 

[Fedwrench]

What if the case had a really nice EVA foam insert that could be removed and put in your tool box to hold the sockets. Would that be more valuable to you

Nope. I have more than a few of those empty eva foam inserts laying around too. Don't get me wrong, the foam trays are nice & do a great job of organizing and protecting the sockets but, they are huge space wasters in a cart or box drawer.

 

[Vortaku]

For the Toyota filter socket, will this be coming out in matte chrome?

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[Motivx Tools]

buckwheat_la - Plastic for myself

Thanks buckwheat_la.

Fedwrench - Nope. I have more than a few of those empty eva foam inserts laying around too. Don't get me wrong, the foam trays are nice & do a great job of organizing and protecting the sockets but, they are huge space wasters in a cart or box drawer.

Which rails do you like? Here's a prototype I have here:

Vortaku - For the Toyota filter socket, will this be coming out in matte chrome?

We could make those in matte chrome as well, we've just always used the black anodizing. Is anyone else interested in a matte chrome version?

 

[Vortaku]

I don't wanna be demanding or anything, just didn't wanna buy the black if matte is coming

 

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Thanks buckwheat_la.



Which rails do you like? Here's a prototype I have here:

We could make those in matte chrome as well, we've just always used the black anodizing. Is anyone else interested in a matte chrome version?

thats a nice socket rack would be better if the bottom was magnetic so it will stand up in a drawer

 

[wtfdskin]

thats a nice socket rack would be better if the bottom was magnetic so it will stand up in a drawer

+1 on the magnetic

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[Motivx Tools]

Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
thats a nice socket rack would be better if the bottom was magnetic so it will stand up in a drawer
+1 on the magnetic

Yep, it's magnetic! It'll hold an entire Snap On 14pc 3/8" drive deep impact socket sideways, not that that's how you'd want to use it, but the magnets are very strong. The bottom has a thin layer of EVA foam to help reduce scratching.

 

[Fedwrench]

That's an excellent looking rail

It appears to use sliding socket pegs that are similar to what VIM, Wright, Matco and others use. Nice color.

 

[paulsomlo]

So let me ask you all another question. When you buy a socket set (we'll say impact sockets), would you rather have it come in a metal case, plastic case, or do you not care because you're going to throw the case away and use a socket rail or other storage system? What are you're thoughts on this?

A case with a removable lid might be a competitive advantage.

 

[paulsomlo]

My first choice is to use US manufacturing, but this has been frustrating and honestly highly disappointing, and it's got nothing to do with cost.

I'd like to hear more about this - my impression was that the only barrier to US mfg was cost.

 

[M6erfan]

That rail looks very nice. Blue for metric and red for SAE?

 

[R_einan]

That's a nice rail! Personally, after having found the VIM magrails, I'm not sure I would go another direction, but if that was more cost effective I probably would have gone that way.

 

[Motivx Tools]

That's an excellent looking rail. It appears to use sliding socket pegs that are similar to what VIM, Wright, Matco and others use. Nice color.

The pegs are all probably the same. That ball / spring retainer design is patented so they're likely coming from the same place.

I'd like to hear more about this - my impression was that the only barrier to US mfg was cost.

This is just my 2 cents from my experiences. Of the US factories we've emailed, many have never respond. Of the factories we've called, many have never returned any calls. Why? My guess is that they want the business of the biggest brands in the industry. A $50K order isn't enough, not worth their time. This was reinforced at AAPEX a couple weeks ago. I visited a manufacturer that makes a good product that we want to make some modifications to and produce. The VP of product development looked at me, said "we're owned by an investment group, we'd have to run the numbers and see if it's profitable enough. I've never heard of your company before, it probably won't be". He then turns around and literally walks away. Unfortunately I think that's the mentality of many US companies, especially the big ones. Not all, I'm sure they're some really good ones, just we haven't found them yet. I take that back, we did have a good conversation with a forging company in WI, might do something with them.

This is in contrast to the companies we deal with in Taiwan, who are much smaller. They provide much more personalized attention, almost always respond to emails, and really want your business. I'm convinced they'll do a first order at just over break even to earn your business. Our experiences in dealing with these factories is excellent.

That rail looks very nice. Blue for metric and red for SAE?

Yes!

That's a nice rail! Personally, after having found the VIM magrails, I'm not sure I would go another direction, but if that was more cost effective I probably would have gone that way.

I'll have to look at these, I've not seen them before.

 

[motofool33]

if your rails are priced well enough i would be a buyer.
i need to redo my socket drawer its mis-matched rails kinda bug me.

 

[Fedwrench]

That's too bad about not being to find a US Company to source your products. I get that it's all about the corporate bottom line but, smaller orders add up too. Every year I've gone to AAPEX sits the fairly large Kabo booth with samples of all of the tools they make for other brands and they seem willing to make any tool someone would want

 

[Loscaldazar]

Received my MotivX Subaru engine oil funnel from Amazon today. Nice piece, made from real thick plastic (much thicker than any plastic funnel I have). Not something that is going to break after a few drops or anything. Has some good weight to it for being entirely plastic. I'll be using it for an oil change in the next few days (whenever I get around to it...).

 

[BaMaDuDe87]

Personally I'm very picky about cases for the most part. What do you guys think about something like this? The metal case would probably be red, not black.

Nice looking case, but I'd much rather have a sturdy blown plastic case. Easy to clean, easy to store out of the way, and easy to throw sockets back in and use when I need to.

 

[Motivx Tools]

motofool33 - if your rails are priced well enough i would be a buyer.
i need to redo my socket drawer its mis-matched rails kinda bug me.

Our cost would be pretty high on these, but they are nice. I'm not sure if or when we'll produce them but I'll let you all know.

Loscaldazar - Received my MotivX Subaru engine oil funnel from Amazon today. Nice piece, made from real thick plastic (much thicker than any plastic funnel I have). Not something that is going to break after a few drops or anything. Has some good weight to it for being entirely plastic. I'll be using it for an oil change in the next few days (whenever I get around to it...).

Thanks for the feedback Loscaldazar! The photos definitely don't do them justice as far as material thickness and durability.

BaMaDuDe87 - Nice looking case, but I'd much rather have a sturdy blown plastic case. Easy to clean, easy to store out of the way, and easy to throw sockets back in and use when I need to.

Thanks for your input!

 

[anndel]

So let me ask you all another question. When you buy a socket set (we'll say impact sockets), would you rather have it come in a metal case, plastic case, or do you not care because you're going to throw the case away and use a socket rail or other storage system? What are you're thoughts on this?

I don't care as my tool boxes are small to fit my tiny garage. I throw away the boxes and/or trays the sockets come in the put them on rails.

 

[anndel]

The pegs are all probably the same. That ball / spring retainer design is patented so they're likely coming from the same place.



This is just my 2 cents from my experiences. Of the US factories we've emailed, many have never respond. Of the factories we've called, many have never returned any calls. Why? My guess is that they want the business of the biggest brands in the industry. A $50K order isn't enough, not worth their time. This was reinforced at AAPEX a couple weeks ago. I visited a manufacturer that makes a good product that we want to make some modifications to and produce. The VP of product development looked at me, said "we're owned by an investment group, we'd have to run the numbers and see if it's profitable enough. I've never heard of your company before, it probably won't be". He then turns around and literally walks away. Unfortunately I think that's the mentality of many US companies, especially the big ones. Not all, I'm sure they're some really good ones, just we haven't found them yet. I take that back, we did have a good conversation with a forging company in WI, might do something with them.

This is in contrast to the companies we deal with in Taiwan, who are much smaller. They provide much more personalized attention, almost always respond to emails, and really want your business. I'm convinced they'll do a first order at just over break even to earn your business. Our experiences in dealing with these factories is excellent.


Yes!

I'll have to look at these, I've not seen them before.

Taiwan makes great tools, they sit alongside my USA-made Snap Ons, Macs, MATCOs and Craftsmans.

 

[buckwheat_la]

Thanks buckwheat_la.



Which rails do you like? Here's a prototype I have here:

We could make those in matte chrome as well, we've just always used the black anodizing. Is anyone else interested in a matte chrome version?

You are welcome, now with that said, let me tell you why I liked my plastic rails. I bought them because they had little stickers that I could put on the socket slide to label each socket, and then I custom installed earth magnets on them so they would stay up in my box nicely. So in short, I did some of the things you have done with this aluminum rail. So the question is, what could you do to label sockets on this? you find a way to do that and you will have me sold....

 

[Motivx Tools]

anndel - I don't care as my tool boxes are small to fit my tiny garage. I throw away the boxes and/or trays the sockets come in the put them on rails. Taiwan makes great tools, they sit alongside my USA-made Snap Ons, Macs, MATCOs and Craftsmans.

Thanks for your input about the case. Taiwan manufacturing has come a long ways, that's for sure.

buckwheat_la - You are welcome, now with that said, let me tell you why I liked my plastic rails. I bought them because they had little stickers that I could put on the socket slide to label each socket, and then I custom installed earth magnets on them so they would stay up in my box nicely. So in short, I did some of the things you have done with this aluminum rail. So the question is, what could you do to label sockets on this? you find a way to do that and you will have me sold....

You mean these stickers for the clips? We'll probably include them with the rails.

 

[buckwheat_la]

Thanks for your input about the case. Taiwan manufacturing has come a long ways, that's for sure.



You mean these stickers for the clips? We'll probably include them with the rails.

Yeah. Now what would the cost/worth be to get the clips with it engraved in already? I know for myself (because of the cheap stickers) I ended up sticking them all with super glue. If you offer those rails, I would buy them.

 

[M6erfan]

what about going old school?

 

[Buckaroo5]

Hunter -

I just purchased your oil filter wrench to do the job on my 2017 Camry and Tundra. It worked great! I have a box full of oil filter wrenches collected over a life time but bought this new one after reading some posts about the difficult removing the relatively new design oil filter cartridges with replaceable filter elements. Did the Camry today and had to use a 1/2" breaker bar to get it loose - it's only supposed to be torqued to 18 ft-lbs but was amazingly tight - previous changes had been done by the Dealership (free via ToyotaCare - yet to do the Tundra as they are currently taking care of that). I torqued it back per spec (again, using your tool) and we will see how hard it comes off next time.

I was really glad I had this tool.....rock solid. Thanks!

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Buckaroo