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bhalv

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So here's the deal, I'm moving from DC to Boise in January and was originally planning on bringing an enclosed trailer along to haul my motorcycle and other junk, but that doesn't look like its gonna happen. Plan B: get a camper shell for the truck and get either a cheap trailer for the bike or build a hitch mount carrier to haul the motorcycle (93 ninja 250, about 350 pounds wet weight). Anybody have ideas on fabbing one that's strong enough to hold the weight? I have access to a welder and some decent fab equipment, just looking for ideas here:dunno:
 
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I made one in 1996 for my XR400. I used channel iron for the tray. It was way overkill but I didn't have a way to form metal. I used 1/8" flat bar as an angled hoop for the front tire. There were two problems I had to overcome
1) Getting enough angle to strap it down. With the bike hugging the rear of my Jeep Cherokee and not wanting another bar sticking way out the back, straps didn't work too well. My solution was a slide-in (the hitch tube under the channel) vertical post that clamped to the frame. Roll bike up, slide bar in, tighten bolt. It was slick because even if the clamp had come loose, the bar would have held it from falling off the rear. It might have broken the rear glass but it wouldn't have fallen off. The downside was that it was specific to that bike.

2) The play in the hitch allowed it to rock. A little wiggle translates to a lot at the end of the tray. In hindsight, some shims/wedges in the tube might have worked fine but since I already had the channel iron, I welded tubes that extended under the hitch cross member as far apart as I could. It worked great but added weight.

Sorry, no pictures. It, and the motorcycle, are long gone.
 
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yeah, i think my main concern would be play in the hitch, wedges are a good idea though
 

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if you look at some high end receiver hitch bike racks, you can copy that design to come up with a way to get the play out.
 

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What about one like this?:lol:
 

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trailer gets my vote.

more area to store stuff for the trip,
and if you dont need it after the move, sell it.

get a new spare tire and wheel for the trailer... just in case


a utility trailer comes in handy sometimes...

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trailer gets my vote.

more area to store stuff for the trip,
and if you dont need it after the move, sell it.

get a new spare tire and wheel for the trailer... just in case


a utility trailer comes in handy sometimes...

:beer:

trailer is still an option, really depends on what I can get cheapest.
 

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A friend brought a hf trailer, mod it for bikes. Put down a wood plank floor. But he found the trailer used, picked it up for about 150 dollar, with about 50 dollars in mods.
 

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A Harbor freight trailer would do it just put a 2x10 over the deck. But back to your hitch. We built a carrier to hang 2 cr250s off the back of a tahoe. I welded 2 small 1in hitches to each side of the factory 2in receiver hole. I built the carrier to fit. It is very stable and great for my buddy since he didnt have a way to store a trailer and where he rides trailer access isnt so easy.
 

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bhalv

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A Harbor freight trailer would do it just put a 2x10 over the deck. But back to your hitch. We built a carrier to hang 2 cr250s off the back of a tahoe. I welded 2 small 1in hitches to each side of the factory 2in receiver hole. I built the carrier to fit. It is very stable and great for my buddy since he didnt have a way to store a trailer and where he rides trailer access isnt so easy.

this is sounding like a good idea, did you use 1.25 in. receiver tubes welded on to your existing hitch, and if so, how long were they? most places sell them in 6" lengths
 

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If you decide to build a trailer, make sure you have a basic understanding of trailer dimensions and formulas... otherwise you could end up with an unstable platform that wont make it out of your town in one piece.
 
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If you decide to build a trailer, make sure you have a basic understanding of trailer dimensions and formulas... otherwise you could end up with an unstable platform that wont make it out of your town in one piece.

probably gonna end up building a receiver carrier.
 
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bhalv

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A Harbor freight trailer would do it just put a 2x10 over the deck. But back to your hitch. We built a carrier to hang 2 cr250s off the back of a tahoe. I welded 2 small 1in hitches to each side of the factory 2in receiver hole. I built the carrier to fit. It is very stable and great for my buddy since he didnt have a way to store a trailer and where he rides trailer access isnt so easy.

do you think 1.25" .188 wall tubing would be strong enough for the supports coming out of the 2 receivers, my metal fab experience is somewhat limited
 

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Always wanted to try one of these....

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The theory is very good and shouldn't have any problem.

Edit: also note this is a quick pic I found of what I wanted to show, there are several slightly different designs and some look better then others...
 
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Always wanted to try one of these....

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The theory is very good and shouldn't have any problem.

Edit: also note this is a quick pic I found of what I wanted to show, there are several slightly different designs and some look better then others...

seems like you would be burning through a lot of rear tire if you had to go any significant distance.
 

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Always wanted to try one of these....

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The theory is very good and shouldn't have any problem.

Edit: also note this is a quick pic I found of what I wanted to show, there are several slightly different designs and some look better then others...

If you're trying to destroy your motorcycle that's the best "carrier" to choose, one bump (or something on the road pops up), pops into gear, goodbye transmission (it's happened, not to me, I'd never use one of those).
 

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I'm not to sure about that one mayday. I don't know why, it just seems kinda sketchie. I would at very least want to take the chain off!

Steve

The first time I saw this concept I questioned it as well... The more I think about it though it isn't much different then riding the motorcycle. I would recommend looking into your bikes transmission design and see if there are any problems with leaving the chain attached. And I agree that if in doubt best bet would be to slide wheel forward and uhook the chain then zip tie it out of the way so it couldn't get caught in the wheel. Other then that, it should work with out a problem...

Also the one I liked was more like a wheel chock and it had U bolts that bolted the front wheel down to it. I woudlnt' trust ratchet straps alone...
 

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If you're trying to destroy your motorcycle that's the best "carrier" to choose, one bump (or something on the road pops up), pops into gear, goodbye transmission (it's happened, not to me, I'd never use one of those).

You used one of these and messed up your motorcycle?

On side note if your bike pops in and out of gears due to bumps in the road it is unsafe to ride and I would rather drag it around.... If I had to worry about that while racing on the bumpy tracks we have here in Texas I would be lowsiding and highsiding so much I couldn't race for being stuck in the hospital all the time!

Edit: Also disconnecting the chain as discussed here would make that impossible as well...
 

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If you're trying to destroy your motorcycle that's the best "carrier" to choose, one bump (or something on the road pops up), pops into gear, goodbye transmission (it's happened, not to me, I'd never use one of those).


You used one of these and messed up your motorcycle?

On side note if your bike pops in and out of gears due to bumps in the road it is unsafe to ride and I would rather drag it around.... If I had to worry about that while racing on the bumpy tracks we have here in Texas I would be lowsiding and highsiding so much I couldn't race for being stuck in the hospital all the time!

Edit: Also disconnecting the chain as discussed here would make that impossible as well...




What if it's a belt drive that you have to remove the swing arm to remove the belt?
 

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On the reciever hitch slop deal..........

Lay 3 weld beads on the tubing that goes into the recievers. Put these beads on the top and one of the sides, no need to do all four sides.

Then simply grind down a little at a time with your angle grinder until you have a nice snug fit. Guarenteed to work.

Simple, cheap and effective. I do this just to eliminate the occasional "thunk" from the ball mount moving slightly. When and if it developes more slop, just add more weld bead and reshape.

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What if it's a belt drive that you have to remove the swing arm to remove the belt?

OH thanks for the bold up above and making the letters so big, I read it the first time but all of the big words confused me so I asked again to make sure I understood it....

Ok now that I'm done being an ******* because that is clearly how we communicate, a belt isn't a magical thing, it is pretty much a rubber chain and you can disconnect it the same way and it too can be tied off to the side.... Now if you had a driveshaft that's a different story.

Oh and I'm to lazy to quote myself and make it all huge bold letters but I did say something about you should look into it and see what the effects would be on your specific bike before using...
 
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OH thanks for the bold up above and making the letters so big, I read it the first time but all of the big words confused me so I asked again to make sure I understood it....

Ok now that I'm done being an ******* because that is clearly how we communicate, a belt isn't a magical thing, it is pretty much a rubber chain and you can disconnect it the same way and it too can be tied off to the side.... Now if you had a driveshaft that's a different story.

Oh and I'm to lazy to quote myself and make it all huge bold letters but I did say something about you should look into it and see what the effects would be on your specific bike before using...

Hey gents, lets keep this civil. Constructive comments only please
 

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trailer is still an option, really depends on what I can get cheapest.

Its almost 300 to rent a trailer, would rather put that into something I can own and re sell once i get there

i bought a brand new 5X10 mesh floor utility trailer, with a new spare tire and wheel for $525 a few years ago.

picked up off brand SS wheel chock, added a plywood floor, and some 3/8" eye bolts for tie downs.
enough room for the bike, and had 2 large lockable storage totes mounted through the floor.


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i bought a brand new 5X10 mesh floor utility trailer, with a new spare tire and wheel for $525 a few years ago.

picked up off brand SS wheel chock, added a plywood floor, and some 3/8" eye bolts for tie downs.
enough room for the bike, and had 2 large lockable storage totes mounted through the floor.


:beer:


That's probably the best way to go and when finished with the move you've got a trailer or you can sell it.
 

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I used 1.25 hitch stock, a local farm store had it in. He likes having them on the truck ive built a couple of attachments to go in the 1.25 recievers like, clevis mounts, spare tire rack and 2 fuel container racks. The rack is very sturdy and balanced. its due to the separation of the mounting points (the 3 receivers). The only set back is it takes a bit to get used to, as far as putting it on the truck. With 2 people its a breeze but 1 man can do it after a bit of practice.
 
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bhalv

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I used 1.25 hitch stock, a local farm store had it in. He likes having them on the truck ive built a couple of attachments to go in the 1.25 recievers like, clevis mounts, spare tire rack and 2 fuel container racks. The rack is very sturdy and balanced. its due to the separation of the mounting points (the 3 receivers). The only set back is it takes a bit to get used to, as far as putting it on the truck. With 2 people its a breeze but 1 man can do it after a bit of practice.

so you used all 3 hitches ?
 
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