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crabjoe

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How are you guys moving really heavy stuff, not on wheels?

I had a tire changer delivered today ... Still on pallet ... I'm thinking the booger is really heavy. I was able to get it out of the back of the truck, with my tractor, but it struggled. The tractor is a small 21hp diesel with 1100lbs lifting capacity at the loader pins.

ok... Back to moving.. I figure I can get it off the pallet, but how do I move it to where I want it, once the pallet is removed? Moving it with the tractor isn't an option because I don't have enough room in my garage.

Thanks!
 
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drb007

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I am spoiled as most of the heavy stuff we move with my dads BIG John Deere tractor with the bucket. I've never seen that thing struggle.
But at home, it's all about physics. Wheels are your friend. I have a bunch of really heavy casters that I mount on either wood or metal bases to fit what I have to move to get it in position. For really heavy stuff, I use a cherry picker to lift the corners and get the wheels out once it is on place.
Save your back...it's the only one you have!
 

jxxxoxxxe

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set it on a few sticks of PVC pipe or steel pipe...i've even used a hand full of golf balls before...as you roll the item across and off the extra pieces, pick them up and put them back in front...
 
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crabjoe

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I've got a cheap hand truck, but I don't think it'll be enough... No engine hoist and nothing with casters...

I'm not thinking I have have to try the hand truck and if that doesn't work, I'll have to rent or buy an appliance dolly.. Assuming an appliance dolly can handle the weight.
 

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they make these hand cart that strap to each end, then it will crank up couple inches so the items on wheel, push where every you want. we got ours from, 'two guys and a truck"
 

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I have a lift cart but that only gets it close to the ground. For things like my compressor I used a metal bar through the bracket with jacks on either end. Then I raised it enought to get the pallet off and lowered it onto an angle iron cart.

Two weeks ago I moved a 22' long 3000 pound dock by putting it on pipes. This week I'll be moving a 1000 pound steel/Trex play tower in our back yard with pipes. It's going over grass so I'll use angle iron or wood runners under the pipe.

Pipes and levers are wonderful but definitely a second choice compared to cherry pickers and proper lifting equipment.
 

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Moved my large hot tub with three pieces of 1/2 galvanized conduit. You would be amaized at how easy some things roll when doing it this way. My father and I almost pushed it right off the frame/deck it moved so easy.
 

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Not a recommendation or anything?But.........

We use mason's scaffolds to offload anything brought in on a PU.IOWs,if its safe to be hauled in a PU,we'll use "safeways"(generic scaffold co),topped with heavy timbers along with a chainfall to lift,then drive PU out from under.Not ideal,but hey....its nuthin compared to how we abuse them in bricklaying world?

And yes,have paid my dues in heavy lift/moves......to the point of moving whole buildings.Its a very serious topic,not trying to diminish safety one dang bit!
 

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set it on a few sticks of PVC pipe or steel pipe...i've even used a hand full of golf balls before...as you roll the item across and off the extra pieces, pick them up and put them back in front...

Works really well. Use steel, then you can slide it across the pipes also.
 

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I moved a mill with pipes on my attached garage floor. completely destroyed the painted floor. I have since built my own custom machine mover. you can rent good capacity mover dollys at a tool rental place. Then use an engine hoist or floor jack to raise it on and off of them. moving on pipes takes a lot of time and effort, if you have a little money to spend the moving dollys or machine dollys are the way to go.
 

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We have used PVC conduits and pipe from 1/2" to 2". what ever scrap we had laying
around. Works great!
 

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Use some 1in steel rods, then when its where you want it use a pry bar to lift 1 corner at a time till all the rollers are out.
 
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You're getting goof advice. Anything from dowel rods up to 2" PVC will move just about anything over a smooth surface. Furniture moving dollies also work well on concrete.

If it's very heavy, you want to secure it in tension in two directions, ideally -- meaning you're using a come-along to pull it, and you have a way to control movement in the other direction (like a rope you've wound around something stable, that you can slowly unwind).

You never want to actually lift anything heavy up in the air if you can avoid it. You want to use levers to move it, and a wheel (or cylinder) will function as a great sort of infinite lever.

You also want a solution where you can walk away from the load and not have a catastrophe. For this reason, hand trucks can get scary with really heavy stuff. But sometimes that's still the only (or most effective) way.

A few months back, I had to move every piece of furniture out of my house so the floors could be refinished. I had to do it all in a day and without any help. I did it in ways that meant I didn't even have to unload the breakfronts (or whatever they're called) loaded with dishes and china. I don't think I actually lifted anything in the course of it -- just floor protection and dollies and dowels. It's a slow way to do it, but I've never had back pain in my life.

This is a 510-pound piece of steel plate that I needed to move from my Jeep to a cabinet. I had 2x4 rectangle tubing available, but a bunch of 2x4s or 2x6s clamped together would have worked.

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I just moved it slowly on metal dowel rods.

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For really big things, I use levers. For these 700-pound cabinets, I attached scrap 2x4s together so I could lift the thing in steps with a lever and then have it rest at each step. If it fell, I'd be out of the way.

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I do also own a hydraulic table now, which was a worthwhile Harbor Freight buy. Here's a smaller (500-pound?) Strong Hold cabinet. Easy to roll anywhere. (Although of course you lower it down before you move it.)

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But getting stuff like this down from the truck can be tricky. Here's my 950-pound lift coming down off the bed. The chains are attached to a come-along, and there was a rope controlling slide in the other direction. Again, I was out of harms way if everything suddenly fell. That's important when you're stupid enough to move big stuff by yourself. :)

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Don't tell Home Depot I use their $19 truck rental to move all my big stuff.
 
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crabjoe

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I can definitely see using rods or conduit to move it around. The best part is I've got a bunch of 1/2 or 3/4" PVC in my basement.

Thanks all!!!
 

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Engine hoist, dollies, pipe rollers , and a winch. I used a winch from my truck to a ****** block in garage and moved goodies.
Picture maybe helpful for a better input.
 

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Rent or borrow a pallet jack. Once the pallet is in close proximity to the intended position, place two stacks of planks at right angles to the pallet, spaced to accept your machine. Lever the machine sideways onto the stacks. Using a pry bar, lift one end of the machine at a time as you remove planks down to floor level.
 

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I'm usually lazy and use my forklift... Have lifting straps & chains when necessary.

In tighter spots, using a pallet jack, then rest it on some 2x4's, then use a prybar to lift up and remove 2x4 to lower to ground. If it's too big or heavy for pallet jack, moving skates work great but *can* chew up a floor finish.

For even tighter spots I've used conduit and even golf balls to move a BIG safe. The only downside with golfballs is they will roll every which way so you need a 2nd hand to help collect them and position them in the path you are going.

Never underestimate the usefulness of a 5' prybar. ;) It's all about leverage.
 

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Rolling things around on various size pipes has always worked well for me.

For larger things out where there is room I dished out $300 for a well-used wrecker that has turned out to be some of the best money on a vehicle I have ever spent. A couple of years ago I moved this shed with it, after jacking it up and putting the dolly wheels underneath.

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I have moved a large 1500lb Van Norman brake lathe that was on a pallet around with 3" diameter PVC pipe under the pallet. That along with an engine crane I was able to unload and load by myself. It was tedious but if your careful its relatively safe.
 

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We moved a 2300 lb lathe on a couple HF $7.99 wheeled dollies to get it on the truck and just a 2 ton floor jack to get it off and into position in the garage.
 

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metaleltr

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If the tire changer is on rubber pads on a concrete floor, lube the pads with wd-40, then a couple people can easily slide the tire changer, this is how we moved ours.
 

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I just moved my tire changer across my shop. I just used a two wheeled dolly rated for 600 pounds. Slid it under, tilted it back and rolled it to where I wanted it, set it down and slid it around into position. Tire changers are not that heavy. I think mine is about 500 pounds.

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Moved my large hot tub with three pieces of 1/2 galvanized conduit. You would be amaized at how easy some things roll when doing it this way. My father and I almost pushed it right off the frame/deck it moved so easy.

That is how the Egyptians moved the stones for the Pyramids.

My Dad built a "seawall" at his house in the river using granite foundation stones that came from the old courthouse torn down in the mid-50's. He and another guy moved them around using round bars and round wooden posts.

Lots of good ideas!
 

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I've used tank tracks, down to a sheet of Formica laminate. You can spray a soapy water mix on the floor and the laminate will glide. There is a spray can called liquid rollers, it is made to spray a boat trailers bunks.
 
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