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NWOhioChevyGuy

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So 5 years ago I commented on a thread that I was going to move an old garage from the backside of our house to another location on our property. Nothing like rushing into something, beginning the bracing and logistics today to make that happen.

Garage is an old (Circa 1900) 14' x 20' that is too small for a vehicle of todays size, so I am moving it and making it into a storage shed for the lawn equipment and some seasonal stuff.

Plan is to brace and lift garage onto a hay wagon and move with the neighbors tractor. It will rest on a series of sono-tubes that have a 4x6 on top of them with anchors already into the concrete.

Building will be lifted around 6" and the existing 4x6 sill plate will be removed giving me 10-12 inches of ground clearance. A new sill plate will be installed before it is lowered onto the new 4x6's and anchored into place.

Once landed the building will get a new metal roof and siding, existing garage door will be re-framed for an 80" slider barn style door.

Dirt floor for now.

Pictures to follow as the process gains momentum.
 
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Hay wagon moves I have witnessed, they take the wheels off effectively lowering the wagon to the hubs. Brace the building to the wagon. Then jack it back up to put wheels on to move it. This is easier than lifting the building and blocking it.
 

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Pics and more pics please, I have one about that size that I need to either move or just pick up and put a new foundation under it. The timbers it sets on are rotting/sinking, the door opening is only about 5' tall at this point.
 
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Here are some pictures as I prepare it to be picked up.

Will be placing 4 cribbing piers on inside edges to lift building and the wagon will be backed into the lifted building then the building will be lowered onto the wagon. Cribbing is borrowed and easily placed as the current location has a concrete floor.

Door wall will be completely re-framed once moved.




New Site location, needs final grading done and alittle more fill.


Lifting frame installed, some more bracing will be added once piers installed and wagon backed into place.




Also down spouts and gutters will be removed to prevent them from being trashed.

Building will only move around 200 feet but will do a 90 degree left turn then a 180 degree turn to find its new location.
 
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Once moved it will get galvanized corrugated roofing panels to match our chicken coop and brick red 29 gauge metal siding with white trim.

Should look pretty sharp.

Lifting frame will be reused to create a loft to provide more square footage for lighter seasonal storage. Truck cap, kayaks, ladders etc.
 

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Good luck! My dad moved a barn years ago. I didn't get to see it since I was in school at the time. So I'm watching eagerly to see how its done so that I can move it out of my way now :)
 
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This move is to get it reworked for yard tool storage and make it look nice for a wedding we are having here in August for our daughter.

Eventually I will have a 2+ car garage built in this location.



 
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Well when we bought the house my Grandmother told me I couldn't tear it down. I had to move it as it has so much history/character.

Plus it will be a lot less $$ than building a storage shed this size.
 

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Seems like you have it planned out sufficiently.

The only thing I can think of is why not do a concrete floor now before the structure gets moved? Should be a lot easier than doing it later. Wouldn't need to be a really thick one.......
 
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I agree it would be easier, but with having a wedding to pay for & two kids in college.

Priorities, and concrete floor is not on the list. (along with my new garage & future shop)

Someday
 

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been there done that, with a 12 x 20 building,
cliff notes of it was lagged a 2x12 into each stud on the side's and lifted it up and then used some 8x8 barn beams across the trailer deck and set it back down on the beam and down the road I went for 7 miles.

good luck and looks like you've got a good plan for moving it

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Nice, If I didn't have to do that 180 degree turn in tight quarters I would be using a flatbed trailer.

However with the tight turn needed I decided to use a wagon so I have steer axle and much smaller turning radius capabilities.

When I was a young kid my father and friends moved a small 2 car garage from the neighbors in a similar fashion. Hope my move goes just as smoothly.
 

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The last 2 miles of this trip the truck got replaced with a 3020 john Deere and I was able to wiggle and move the trailer just where I wanted with the tractor. Have used wagons in the past they work great also.

Good luck with your move
 
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Slag from the local steel mill showing up today so I can do final grading inside where building will be moved. I will be adding 1-2" of this to my driveway also, can't beat the cost and it looks pretty good.

Hope the rain allows me to do something this evening after work.
 
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41.2 tons of material spread this evening and ordered another truck full (20 tons)

Heavy stuff and it's hard to rake, wish I could run the neighbors loader tractor more efficiently to reduce the hand work.
 

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My neighbor moved a 16x20 garage with his Ford 8N tractor.

He drove the tractor into position, pointed out.

He cribbed it up about a foot and lowered it onto a underslung frame he built under the N.

Then he drove it, with the garage on it, about 300 yards to where he wanted it.

Pretty slick, who needs a wagon?:p

Tom
 
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That is a cool idea, if I owned the tractor and had the time with it to build the frame, It sounds like something cool to try.

Unfortunately its the neighbors and I get to borrow it when needed, a good deal in all just limits what I can and can't do with it.
 
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Garage has been lifted


Sills removed


And 4" cut off to help with removing rotted / non usable material.


Move Day is Saturday.

The fun today was finding another wagon to do the move with, as the one I had lined up will be in the field for bailing hay. 2-3 phone calls and I located one that will be available. Love being from a farming family ;)
 
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Yes we used two of the small 6 ton units seen in the pictures.

Very little effort to lift the building.
Lifted one end at a time and cribbed up.

Had a 20ton & the railroad jack there in case needed, but they were not.
 

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Looks pretty good. You did a lot of framing to support it but I don't see any angled bracing like Sublimes picture shows. That will go a long way to keeping it together as you move it especially over any uneven surface. A few 2x8's could make or break it. You may have done bracing already, just not visible in the pics.
 
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Yes that is correct.

Angle bracing is on the outside of the back of the building (out of picture view) and then also the front will have a 2x8 across the front and angle braces installed once the wagon is backed into the building.

Most of the bracing is inside, almost as much lumber in the lifting "frame" as in the building ;)

Hopefully will pick up the wagon tonight and get it backed in and ready before my "crew" shows up.

Also the route is mostly driveway and level yard, so very little worry of rocking the building while moving it
 
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Sorry for no update, been a long weekend with a lot packed into two days.

Garage is moved and in one piece in its new location.
I will share some pictures tomorrow.

Took longer than planned due to switching wagons due to availability, and my replacement wagon was 3" shorter......that makes a huge difference and more work.

Also my 180 degree turn took some extra thinking and extending the wagon tongue 6-7 feet. And about 10-15 point turn, with unhooking and rehooking to tractor or truck.....

More details tomorrow.
 

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Years ago (maybe 50 or 60) i saw a Turkey shed being raised and moved using a hay wagon for wheels and a tractor inner tube for the lift mechanism. Simple and easy.
Terry
 

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Sorry for no update, been a long weekend with a lot packed into two days.

Garage is moved and in one piece in its new location.
I will share some pictures tomorrow.

Took longer than planned due to switching wagons due to availability, and my replacement wagon was 3" shorter......that makes a huge difference and more work.

Also my 180 degree turn took some extra thinking and extending the wagon tongue 6-7 feet. And about 10-15 point turn, with unhooking and rehooking to tractor or truck.....

More details tomorrow.

Congrats on getting it moved without a disaster,

Will be looking forward to pics when you get caught up.

A good feeling after its all done I know the feeling of how that goes.
 
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Pictures from Saturdays Move

Tractor & Wagon in place
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On the Wagon
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Moving, ready to do the 180 turn I thought
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To short tongue / to tight a turn
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Extending Tongue with 2x4
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Back onto the move
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Once lined up we used a truck with front hitch to push into new location
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Had a slip off the ramps that was a HUGE Pucker Moment

But all survived and no one was injured

Off wagon onto new location
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Monday was productive will post pictures later of the re construction / upgrading of the building
 
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Here is what she looked like after Mondays Work. Big thanks to my Father & My Father In Law for the days work.

End Opened up


Framed up for new sliding barn door & Sheet Metal


Had to place a come-a-long between the two walls and pull the bow out of the walls. The old foundation had rolled outward in the middle and they were not straight. Came out pretty respectable.


Back 8' of the shed will have a loft, had the lumber from moving the building so why not.....storage area for lighter seasonal stuff. Have 7/16 OSB to deck it.
 
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And after Tuesday / today.

Tore the cedar shakes off the roof, placed 2x4 nailer (screwer) for metal roofing.
Have about 1/2 of the 1X facia boards on before we were done for the day due to the heat.





Where she sits behind the drive / pool the house is off to the right of this picture.


Old cedar shakes burn VERY easily ;)



Then I worked some ground to seed before rain tomorrow and spread some gravel
 

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Great project, sometimes a project like this is better that building new. Your 8 foot loft may become a catch all and never be able to get to the stuff in the back. You might think about shelves across the back and along the side wall, maybe 30" deep
 
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