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i4ni

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Got a new Interstate battery for my mower last year and now it's dead. My 3 year old grandson messed with the switch last fall and left it on but although weak it started to turn over so I had to jump it. We used it after that and it was fine but now it goes dead in less than a month ( twice now) in a heated shed. I can't imagine it having a parasitic draw but I unhooked the ground and will try it in a month or so because I've got too many other things going on right now to mess with it. I suppose if it's dead in a month the batterys killed, and if not it's a PD that I'll have to figure out. Oddly enough the original battery lasted like 10 years. Anyone want to go out on a Limb as to what it will be?
 
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If it sat dead for more than a week or so, it's most likely sulfated to the point that it'll self-discharge in a fairly short time.

If it's a flooded-cell type, sometimes they can be desulphated by a severe overcharge provided it doesn't boil the cells dry.

A lot of electronic battery chargers have a desulphate function. I've done this a couple of times, it seemed to help.
 

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I charge my mower battery all the time.

Once in the spring and once in the fall, before it gets removed and taken inside the garage for the winter

Slow 1 amp trickle usually takes 12-16 hours, I would guess
 
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If it sat dead for more than a week or so, it's most likely sulfated to the point that it'll self-discharge in a fairly short time.

If it's a flooded-cell type, sometimes they can be desulphated by a severe overcharge provided it doesn't boil the cells dry.

A lot of electronic battery chargers have a desulphate function. I've done this a couple of times, it seemed to help.
Thanks, I don't know if the one over at the farm shop has that function but if it doesn't I'll ask a few friends. Thanks
 

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Yeah?

If it was flat dead, then somehow started the mower and you've just been driving it around it needs a proper charge.

Maybe a fancy charge mode will help, but bottom line it's needs some attention.
 
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Yeah?

If it was flat dead, then somehow started the mower and you've just been driving it around it needs a proper charge.

Maybe a fancy charge mode will help, but bottom line it's needs some attention.
Yeah?

If it was flat dead, then somehow started the mower and you've just been driving it around it needs a proper charge.

Maybe a fancy charge mode will help, but bottom line it's needs some attention.
I guess I neglected to mention I did charge it each time. My bad
 

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Are you running a smart charger?

I 've use a noco10 in fix mode to help a couple of batteries. Beyond that its replacement time, hopefully on warranty.
 

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if yu wanna try you can try using a smart charger to restore it, works eh sometimes. sometimes the smart charger wont charge it cause its to low voltage and you need a dumb old school charger to put some power to it first.

if not buy a new one. then make sure to get a battery tender on it all the time
 

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Got a new Interstate battery for my mower last year and now it's dead. My 3 year old grandson messed with the switch last fall and left it on
That probably killed it. I have had it happen on a fairly new car battery. Ran it totally dead and it sat that way for a week or two. Would never hold a charge after that.
 

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If it sat dead for more than a week or so, it's most likely sulfated to the point that it'll self-discharge in a fairly short time.

If it's a flooded-cell type, sometimes they can be desulphated by a severe overcharge provided it doesn't boil the cells dry.

A lot of electronic battery chargers have a desulphate function. I've done this a couple of times, it seemed to help.
Deep discharging a lead acid battery will cause serious longevity issues. I didn't know that it was caused by sulfation (TY micromind), I just knew (as also stated by a few others) they were never the same. Harry
 

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In over 50 years of buying batteries, sorry to say that the two Interstates I've owned were the worst.
Even Walmart batteries have been and are still better. Best I've owned were Delco.

If you don't run the tractor regularly then a trickle charger is your friend. I use a Battery Tender and the batteries on those seem to last far beyond their rated lifespan.
 

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I put battery disconnects on all of my old junk. It helps protect the battery from parasitic draws, prevents people (family members mostly) from fooling around with it, and the biggest thing is it should help prevent a fire if something shorts out. motomaster-swan-style-battery-disconnect-aa91e7f2-04e0-4ff2-a09b-16ef7fe29dbc.png
 
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While you're at it, test the generator on the lawn tractor.

Mine had gone out on my mower. Every other mow, the battery would be dead as it slowly drew down the battery while running instead of charging it. I lived with the mower on a battery tender between mows for over a year before I finally tested the generator. Ended up being a $15 part to fix the generator.
 

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This for sure ^^^^

Some have as low as a 2amp system and some have as high as a 20amp charging system
 

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I have a quad that is parked outside all the time, I may go weeks without starting it. I bought a solar charger for it to keep the battery charged fully, it has worked flawlessly for several years now. I ran a pair of wires to the battery and left a pigtail by the brake light to make it quick and easy to connect.
 

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Deep discharge and jump starting a small battery from a much larger battery can both cause issues.
If you are connecting battery-to-battery (of the same voltage), size does not matter.

If you are using some kind of jump pack that provides extra voltage (to keep the amps down), you might have issues.

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I mounted a Noco Trickle Charger behind the seat of my Cub Cadet XT2 lawn tractor. The Battery is under the seat. I plug it in for the winter when I store it in the garage. Since I put that trickle charger in... it's never failed me.

This has worked out so well... I have done the same thing for the vehicles I rarely drive.
 

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I mounted a Noco Trickle Charger behind the seat of my Cub Cadet XT2 lawn tractor. The Battery is under the seat. I plug it in for the winter when I store it in the garage. Since I put that trickle charger in... it's never failed me.

This has worked out so well... I have done the same thing for the vehicles I rarely drive.
I used one of these and mounted it on the side of the mower. Sadly, they've been discontinued.

 

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Found images of my Tractor Modification. In ONE image you can see the ROUND NOCO plug cover... it's a MALE plug to attach a 120v extension cord to.
 

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Smart chargers usually require a minimum charge threshold before they actually charge the battery. It looks like they are charging but may only be in hold mode. An older basic charger will charge the batteyr no matter it's current charge condition. I have both smart and basic chargers (Craftsman 10amp from 1980). For batteries I know are in decent charge state I'll just leave them plugged in to maintain.

On occasion I'll use the old style Craftsman charger. My dad used to revive/desulfate old batteries slow discharge with a small 12v light bulb, then a full charge with an old style charger. Then discharge again. He'd do that maybe ten times over and did revive many old lead acid cell batteries. That process may not apply to the newer AGM or sealed batteries.
 

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Agree with niget2002 Is Your mower charging the battery? Been there done that!
Lawn tractors, snowmobiles (old ones anyway), and small M/C's (etc.) usually have a voltage regulator and or a diode(s) that are famous for giving up the ghost silently! Worked yesterday and no charge today usually they keep the magic smoke in, so no real notic until you are sitting with a dead battery in the dark! As noted above [@D45] they have a notoriously small output. Harry
 
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Lawn tractors, snowmobiles (old ones anyway), and small M/C's (etc.) usually have a voltage regulator and or a diode(s) that are famous for giving up the ghost silently! Worked yesterday and no charge today usually they keep the magic smoke in, so no real notic until you are sitting with a dead battery in the dark! As noted above [@D45] they have a notoriously small output. Harry
Or maybe a Kohler engine with loose flywheel magnets, it still put out some juice but not enough !
Took Me a while to find that one, repaired it and all is well !
 

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I used one of these and mounted it on the side of the mower. Sadly, they've been discontinued.

CTek still has theirs

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But both ctek and noco offers just a straight dongle. I am really baffled why one would want to mount the whole charger when a dongle can allow the charger to be used on multiple batteries?
 

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CTek still has theirs

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But both ctek and noco offers just a straight dongle. I am really baffled why one would want to mount the whole charger when a dongle can allow the charger to be used on multiple batteries?
My Husqvarna has this input. Any idea where I can get a charger?

The Husqvarna branded one is expensive
 
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If you are connecting battery-to-battery (of the same voltage), size does not matter.

If you are using some kind of jump pack that provides extra voltage (to keep the amps down), you might have issues.

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If the smaller battery was at (or near) 12V why would you be jump starting it?
 

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Sometimes also, the flywheel magnets do need to be adjusted for gap spacing

Usually a poker playing card is a good thickness
 

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Don’t leave the keys in equipment when young (or irresponsible) people are around.
 

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Yea... I'd stick with the branded one. Buy once... Cry all night but ... you will be full of electricity.
Should have added "Husqvarna branded".

When I looked quick last summer I could not find a Ctek branded one with the correct plug.
 

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Should have added "Husqvarna branded".

When I looked quick last summer I could not find a Ctek branded one with the correct plug.
I did a quick look on amazon for Ctek chargers and they appear (at first glance) to have that plug. I also noticed "Adapters" ... that might be able to be cut and resoldered into whatever charger you do get. My setup for 2 cars and a tractor is a bit of a franken assembly ... but it's all NOCO branded. Agree tho... for a 10 foot "CORD"... with the right plug end.... $30

Oh and yea... I only looked at the plug... and knew it was Ctek branded... I never thought Husqvarna had anything.
 

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I did a quick look on amazon for Ctek chargers and they appear (at first glance) to have that plug. I also noticed "Adapters" ... that might be able to be cut and resoldered into whatever charger you do get. My setup for 2 cars and a tractor is a bit of a franken assembly ... but it's all NOCO branded. Agree tho... for a 10 foot "CORD"... with the right plug end.... $30

Oh and yea... I only looked at the plug... and knew it was Ctek branded... I never thought Husqvarna had anything.
Link?

Ill have to look again. Be nice to just pull a plug and drive off. I put the maintainer on it for the winter, but that has ring terminals.

Edit: found this, now that I know the "comfort connect" marketing I see more options

 
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