Multiprocess Welders

[southbayduramax]

I know this topic has been covered in the past but I couldn't find anything recent that included some of the newer machines that have come out.

Does anyone own, or have experience with any of the multiprocess Welder's that are currently available on the market?

Specifically, I have been looking at the Miller Multimatic 200 and the multimatic 215, and the Lincoln MP210. My budget is around the $1,500 range.

I understand that these machines are probably not the best at any one of the Tig/Mig/Stick but I will just be using it around the house and property for personal projects. It would be very convenient to have one machine that can handle everything that I need.

Thanks in advance for everyone's time.


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[sberry]

I know this isn't exactly what you asked but these are alright and the main tools needed for general work would be a feeder and the occasional stick for machinery work. To tell the truth for general maintenance could get by with a simple 200 class feeder.
The hobby types like to fuss over tig but I am a career welder with a shop and never use it, wont do aluminum anyway. The plus for a multi is it is a stick machine too but to tell the truth may just as soon as have a separate machine for it which weighs 13 lbs and a guy could really get both for the cost of a multi.

 

[pmason0]

I have the Miller Multimatic 200, welding is just a hobby for me but I've done pretty well. If I was to do it again I would buy two welders, a MIG and a TIG. I didn't know enough when I bought it but found out afterwards I could only weld aluminum with the spoolgun/MIG and not the TIG side as its only DC.

 

[great white tj]

The MM215 is a great welder for what you are looking for, But you still need to buy a Tig set up for this welder.. that's another $500.00 give or take a dollar... I have the older MM 211 ( 2009 year ) it works damn good. I have a MM 252 ( 2013 year) Why did I get this welder ""Hell" I don't know, I use the 211 more. As for stick I have a Lin. AC-DC I got used, it was very clean unit and it was a very nice price so I picked it up. If you are going to use the welder around the house ect. I would get the MM211. If you need stick take your time and look for a used that is clean and a price you can live with. Back to the MM 215. this welder will will do everything you need to do around your house. One thing to think about.... If you get the MM215 and the mig side or the stick side goes out and you have to send the welder in the shop..... you have no welder at home.. I hope this helps you..

 

[zkling]

Define "personal projects".

Unless you plan on running a farming operation, take Sberry's advice for what you paid for it.

I have the Miller Multimatic 200, welding is just a hobby for me but I've done pretty well. If I was to do it again I would buy two welders, a MIG and a TIG. I didn't know enough when I bought it but found out afterwards I could only weld aluminum with the spoolgun/MIG and not the TIG side as its only DC.

And this is what typically happens....

 

[JJThrasher]

I've been in the market for a new welder and have looked at the multi process machines. I'm planning to just by a MIG for now and a TIG later. I haven't used a TIG since I was trained and required to use it. All my personal stuff is done MIG. Only reason I even want a TIG is some aluminum work. I don't think any of the multi process machines will do AC TIG which would be a requirement for my intended use.

 

[Bobcat753]

I have the 210MP. I absolutely love it. The interface is flawless and I find the recommended settings to be near spot on. I haven't had the need to use the stick/TIG side but I feel they would perform the same.

Before I had this unit I owned a Miller 12VS Feeder. It was nice but it was bulky and too much for the MIG work I do. I was dead set on buying the Miller 211 but when I went to my LWS the 211 was already sold so I went with the 210MP and I'm glad I did.

 

[sberry]

Bout as hot as you can get it wit the little machine.

 

[southbayduramax]

Define "personal projects".

Unless you plan on running a farming operation, take Sberry's advice for what you paid for it.



And this is what typically happens....

I don't ever tig weld, so I am not all to concerned with the tig side. However, if I ever found some spare time it would be nice to mess around and practice tig welding. 95% of the welding I do at work is stick so I foresee using the arc welding side of the machine the most.

That being said- I guess that I thought the price of these multiprocess machines would be cheaper than buying 2-3 separate machines. But if the arc welding side of the multi process machine would be comparable to say a Lincoln tombstone (which I could find used for $250), and the wire feed side would be comparable to another entry level machine ($300-$600), than maybe splitting them up would be best. Anyone have insight on what each function of these multi-process machines would compare to as individual machines?



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[Thumper68]

Tossing in my $.02, I bought a Lincoln 210MP as a second machine mostly for the ability to run stick, I already had a great mig and a ac/dc tig.

After looking at all the stick welders available new and used I chose the 210mp for a few reasons over a stick only machine.

120/240 volt I can take it with me and use it in anyones house/garage, I can run it off the generator anywhere.

Weight, I can toss it in the truck easily.

I can use it as a second mig with a different size wire in the shop.

All in all I am very happy with my choice, I have taken it out on several jobs and it has worked well. On one job I was in the clients garage so I was able to bring along a c25 tank and run mig and them out into the yard and ran stick for the final installation.

 

[great white tj]

You have looked at the MM215 Very good unit still $$$ for what you need. The MM211 is another very good welder... just a little less than the MM 215.. The MM211 can do 110 or 220, this is nice to have on a home welder. Then there is Hobart 210 it also will work on 110V or 220V and is $899.99 at Tractor Supply. Stick welders can be found new or used at some good price, you just have to look. Now the Hobart 140 is a 110V welder it is a very good welder for the home or light farm work. I have one that's is 10 years old. I have welded up to 1/4 with this welder.... and everything I have welded with it is still holding. Split up your needs and you will be better off. It is just a $$ issue at this point. But you will be happy with each welder that I have listed.

 

[great white tj]

Thumper 68, has a very nice welder for all around welding with 110V or 220V.... It's just a lot of things to think about on your end...

 

[mustange70]

I have a multimatic 215, its the same machine as the multimatic 200, just a different case and a smaller/different mig gun and shorter cables.

The 215 is a 211 with a maxstar 150 added in iirc. On mine i got it with all the attachments for stick, mig and tig. It works greats on all functions. The TIG is just a basic scratch start system, no high freq or ac. Only way to do aluminum is really with a spool gun.

For what you say you are wanting to do, this would be a good machine for you, keep in mind if you are having to weld at amperage's over 150amps consistently, you will need a bigger machine, this machine will go up to 200amps (or there abouts), but the duty cycle is 20% or lower at the top end.

I've played with the lincoln 210 and the esab rebel, both are the same machines capability and capacity wise, but I found the miller to have heavier duty parts (better drive rolls, more robust parts in general), it is also already a well tested machine with the multimatic 200 having been out for a while. Also the consumables are easier to get too.

In short, if you are looking to buy a new machine, the 215 is a great machine to start with.

 

[mmouse]

I have a MM215. NO regrets! I use the MIG for most general welding. TIG for sheetmetal and thin stuff. I put together my own TIG package with SSC pedal, CK flex 9 torch, and Harris flowmeter, for the same price as the Miller TIG kit. It only take 5 seconds to switch from MIG/TIG. If I ever need to weld aluminum, I use my dad's Lincoln precison TIG. But for home use, the MM215 has exceeded my expectations and meets all my needs!

 

[brownbagg]

dont forget Hobart, cyberweld.com, free shipping. I got the hobart ironman 230. I really like it. but they have other models. Hobart and Miller are owned by the same parent company.

 

[sberry]

The I'M would be on my short list today. Prices right for a full sized machine.

 

[creativecars]

I have had the MP210 for about 2 months and used it a fair amount. It has worked great for MIG on 220. Have yet to ask anything else out of it so far.

 

[BigMike782]

I have run both the ESAB Rebel(1600 ish) and the Miller Multimatic 215(2400 ish). The both stick weld very well. They both MIG very well. They are both lift arc. The Miller has amperage control as part of the TIG package. The Rebel was TIG ready but amperage control was an option. The Miller has two gas solenoids the ESAB uses a torch valve.
If you are going to be learning TIG a hi freq foot amperage controlled machine will be wayyyy less frustrating.