Notgrownup
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Yeah that sun will get that tar good n hot..
My 24X24 build thread.
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M-technik-3
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Roof looks great.
A close up of the two small windows.
Today, seeing as I came home from work at 6am, all I got down was rough two soffit boxes and put in the soffits on one side.
Here is the soffit half way done.
And here is my ultra-safe scaffold set up. (It's actually surprisingly very stable)
Today, seeing as I came home from work at 6am, all I got down was rough two soffit boxes and put in the soffits on one side.
Here is the soffit half way done.
And here is my ultra-safe scaffold set up. (It's actually surprisingly very stable)
bad_idea
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Sketch-E!
Please don't die before you finish the garage, you seem like a great guy.
Please don't die before you finish the garage, you seem like a great guy.
M-technik-3
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I work in drywall field and we have tossed all of are yellow bakers those things are so flimsy. We have had two guys get hurt on them, we went to Vanguard's. Please be safe.
The black framed windows are Pella correct?
The black framed windows are Pella correct?
Notgrownup
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Is that Newfoundland Redneck scaffolding.
Don't worry, I try to be very safe. I changed the set up a little after I took the pic. The price was right on those. I don't stack them. I found they sway a lot but don't really move.
Went to the vanguard website, they seem to see something identical to what I am using. Which model Vanguard are you using?
Atlantic Windows. East coast Canadian company. Pella doesn't really seem to have much of a presence here.
Notgrownup
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I don’t get that...English is a 2nd language for me...Is that how Coasters say Redneck?
Today's progress was the rest of the soffits. Next step is all the trim around the corners and garage door and then onto the metal work.
Here is a shot of the front as well as a shot with the rest of the house to compare overhangs and roof pitch. Doesn't match but to match it would have been much more of a head ache.
Here is a shot of the front as well as a shot with the rest of the house to compare overhangs and roof pitch. Doesn't match but to match it would have been much more of a head ache.
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Notgrownup
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About 30 some odd years ago I hitchhiked to Toronto for work, most of the guys I met from back east were Newfies, they told me, you go on construction sites, if you’re a Newfie, New Brunswicker or Nova Scotian they will hire you... they know we work... They were right... Guy says , You’re a Coaster, can you start today.? I already had a job but. It made me feel good...
newfiemustang
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Bayman approved! I've worked on worse!! HAHAHA!!
Notgrownup
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Looking really good...
Okay,
So yesterday I was a little ill and didn't get much done. I did rent a metal brake for two days. Today I used it. I did the soffit boxes, the trim around the garage, and the trim around the door. Having never seen, let alone, used a metal brake before it wasn't too bad. I was expecting to have to add a certain value to every measurement to account for the radius of the corner but I didn't have to do any of that nonsense.
Here is the building up of the soffit boxes/corners. It was a learning process. I started from the corner that was least visible and then finished with the corner that was most visible. I was learning as I go.
Luckily I the people who built my house provided me with a very accessible example of what I had to do.
The door trimmed out.
Garage door with drip cap
This is what one of the corner pieces looks like before install. It took a bit for my brain to figure out how to do it exactly
The front of the house in full tuxedo/storm trooper deco.
Tomorrow is all the fascia. I ran out of daylight/time. I suppose I could have done it all in the garage with a light but I would be tired and rushing it. The metal brake is not due back till tomorrow at 5pm so I might as well take my time.
Question: When doing the fascia should I hem the ends of the trim or just do one bend to get the 'L'? I notice youtube videos doing either or.
So yesterday I was a little ill and didn't get much done. I did rent a metal brake for two days. Today I used it. I did the soffit boxes, the trim around the garage, and the trim around the door. Having never seen, let alone, used a metal brake before it wasn't too bad. I was expecting to have to add a certain value to every measurement to account for the radius of the corner but I didn't have to do any of that nonsense.
Here is the building up of the soffit boxes/corners. It was a learning process. I started from the corner that was least visible and then finished with the corner that was most visible. I was learning as I go.
Luckily I the people who built my house provided me with a very accessible example of what I had to do.
The door trimmed out.
Garage door with drip cap
This is what one of the corner pieces looks like before install. It took a bit for my brain to figure out how to do it exactly
The front of the house in full tuxedo/storm trooper deco.
Tomorrow is all the fascia. I ran out of daylight/time. I suppose I could have done it all in the garage with a light but I would be tired and rushing it. The metal brake is not due back till tomorrow at 5pm so I might as well take my time.
Question: When doing the fascia should I hem the ends of the trim or just do one bend to get the 'L'? I notice youtube videos doing either or.
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bad_idea
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Outstanding trim work, looks professional. That is one thing I was pondering. I didn't know you could rent a trim brake. What'd that run you and where did you rent it?
Notgrownup
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That damn brake is the bomb, I borrowed one from a co workers fiancé and it saved me tons of money.
Up here in Canada I got it from the local rental place for $60/day. No stand, no cutter.
Local Home Depot rents them out for $75 a day with a stand and a cutter.
100' X 24" roll of trim stock set me back $230. Trim nails were $10 for a small tin.
I'm assume it's all cheaper in the States.
Locally preformed fascia board is $15 for a 10'X6" board. You could, in theory, make 300 such boards from a roll of trim stock. So it's actually a little cheaper.....if you need 300 fascia boards. For me, I didn't have much of a choice because my soffits where non-standard grey. Throw in some drip caps I need as well as all the black trim work and it made sense in the end to rent one. That and it's been fun learning a new skill.
Local Home Depot rents them out for $75 a day with a stand and a cutter.
100' X 24" roll of trim stock set me back $230. Trim nails were $10 for a small tin.
I'm assume it's all cheaper in the States.
Locally preformed fascia board is $15 for a 10'X6" board. You could, in theory, make 300 such boards from a roll of trim stock. So it's actually a little cheaper.....if you need 300 fascia boards. For me, I didn't have much of a choice because my soffits where non-standard grey. Throw in some drip caps I need as well as all the black trim work and it made sense in the end to rent one. That and it's been fun learning a new skill.
Notgrownup
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Not much cheaper here when you take the exchange factor...I found that some stuff was cheaper up there than here...
Today I formed all the fascias and quite a bit of drip caps. The drip caps are going to be for the transition between the two different sidings. It took the better part of the day to do it all. Metal brake went back to the rental place so hopefully I didn't forget anything.
I managed to get most of the fascia on as well in the late afternoon. There was a bit of finessing/hitting to get it to all work. Only one or two pieces 'oil canned' for some reason or another. I really screwed up the drip trays when I put them up so it's now causing problems.
I managed to get most of the fascia on as well in the late afternoon. There was a bit of finessing/hitting to get it to all work. Only one or two pieces 'oil canned' for some reason or another. I really screwed up the drip trays when I put them up so it's now causing problems.
couch67
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trim looks awesome! worth the price of the brake rental!
bad_idea
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Please allow me to preface the below with this: Not trying to be insulting, looking to learn for when I build my garage.
You've got $360 or so into tools and materials to do the trim. Did you get any quotes to have it done professionally? I didn't think aluminum wrapping trim cost that much. Your work looks professional, but it also sounds like it gave you a fair amount of grief.
You've got $360 or so into tools and materials to do the trim. Did you get any quotes to have it done professionally? I didn't think aluminum wrapping trim cost that much. Your work looks professional, but it also sounds like it gave you a fair amount of grief.
No insult perceived.
So $120 for the brake + $460 for both rolls of trim stock = $580. I used about 80% of both rolls, so about $370 of materials used. The price I paid for the rolls is contractor price, if not, very close.
$580-$370=$210. The question is could a contractor have come in and done it all for $210 in labour. I doubt it.
The easier/cheaper way would have been to just go with vinyl corner pieces (close in colour) and buy preformed fascia in white. $95 for the 4 corners +~$250 for the fascia boards. However, if I did that I would be always looking at a garage that didn't match the house and it would drive me nuts.
The whole point of this project was for me to do it. I mean, I could have just contracted the whole garage out and been done with it. They probably could have had it up inside a week too! Besides, it wasn't that much grief. No more than anything else.
That being said, if I wasn't salaried and could get over time for working more I would have done that and paid someone to build the garage.
Did that answer your question?
TL;DR didn't get any quotes
sean Buick 76
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Amazing job on the metal work!!! Have you done that before???
couch67
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I have to add my 0.02 to the DIY vs contractor debate. For me, it all comes down to whether I feel I'm out of my league, or its a job that I just hate to do, or I'm too busy to do it myself - I will look to contract it out.
But if I can read up on the process and have the time to give it a go, this is my usual route. At that point I don't even bother getting quotes because that is a PITA in itself. Once I've decided that its DIY, I honestly don't care if I'm saving money. I find the satisfaction of doing it yourself (and on your own terms) outweighs any (or no) cost savings. But to each his own
couch
But if I can read up on the process and have the time to give it a go, this is my usual route. At that point I don't even bother getting quotes because that is a PITA in itself. Once I've decided that its DIY, I honestly don't care if I'm saving money. I find the satisfaction of doing it yourself (and on your own terms) outweighs any (or no) cost savings. But to each his own
couch
bad_idea
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I'm with you on doing a task myself to get the EXACT results I want. Sheet metal work is one of those things I don't care too much for, so I was curious just how much you saved doing it yourself. For me, I may farm that portion out because I don't like doing it. Was just looking to get a ball park on how much money I'm giving away if I take that route.
Notgrownup
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For me I saved a bunch and I wanted to DIY...the satisfaction of building it and finishing something is very rewarding wether it a building or swapping camshaft in my Harley or remodeling my laundry room. I do know where my limits are and my abilities to have a quality end results, that is the deciding factor if I hire out or DIY.
lakeroadster
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Well done and well stated.
And once you have more tools, whatever they may be, and raw materials, whatever they may be, you'll find other uses for them. It always works out that way.
The red tape on your house wrap.. what type is it? I know the Tyvek tape is ungodly expensive.
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Notgrownup
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We don’t have tuck tape here.., it’s tyvek orthere is another brand but never seen the red stuff down here...
Y2Breeze
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Got any recent interior pic? This is the exact size i'm about to build.
Not really, all that is inside is building materials and a stack of sheats.
Today was my first attempt at siding. I made a lot of mistakes which resulted in some wastage but all in all, save for a corner on a window, I think it worked out and I am happy with it.
It finally feels like I can see the crest of this project. Soon it will start to be downhill, well, the exterior anyways.
Tomorrow: Expected storm followed by 3 overnight shifts so probably not much is going to happen during the week.
BlueBomber
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Well done, old_man! You are definitely outpacing me--I barely have the roof sheathing on mine!
newfiemustang
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Old_Man you have inspired me to get back at mine. Got it to a completed shell several years ago and haven't done anything since. Going to order the stuff tomorrow to get it wired and get some power to it. That's way too many years running on an extension cord!!
Notgrownup
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Looks good man... the siding for me was not that bad to do, it was hard to cut when it was cold at bit but while it was in the sun it was not as brittle...there are a few spots only I know of that are messed up a bit but I am fine with it.
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I have not had one problem with cutting the siding yet. All I have been doing is putting it in my 12" sliding mitre saw and taking my time. Seems to cut it quite nicely.
...there are a few spots only 8 know of that are messed up a bit but I am fine with it.[/QUOTE]
Same here. The more I look closely at my new house built by pros the more I can see 'things' here and there. Normally, I would have started on the backside of the house to learn but this time I started on the front because I wanted the siding on either side of that front corner to line up.
Storm coming, she going to be blowing a gale tonight. Should be a good test of my shingle work.