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My 30 x 40 build

Innovate1

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Guess it's time to start a thread about the build and post a few pics in a few days.

Foundation is in and passed my under floor plumbing inspection today. Inspector had a few suggestions that were very helpful. Suggested a way to put in an elevated trap for the furnace that couldn't be run into the main stack. Something about it being above the bath that has a lower ceiling making it a different room or level so it can't be put into the main vent stack. Not sure he really understood the room layout but his suggestion is easy to do. Also suggested running the water line through a conduit large radius bend so it could be replaced later if needed and it also protects it from the gravel under slab. Maybe overkill but easy enough to do. And isn't that what GJ is all about anyway?

At one point he suggested putting the water heater on a shelf since I wanted to get it off the floor. I am going to have a small mezzanine above a half bath that extends slightly beyond the walls of the half bath. and was planning to put it on that. He asked if the ceiling would be drywalled. Apparently that has something to do with it being defined as an additional level. I really didn't understand it all but have a way forward so am not going to worry about it.

We are getting a bunch of rain tonight and tomorrow so glad to get the in ground stuff covered. Also did the sewer hookup.
 
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INN: i'm here to watch and learn how to build something during the winter if that's your plan.

good luck and hope the weather isn't too bad.
 

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I will be watching this thread. Exact same size that I want to build and just on the other side of the river from you.

Eager to see your framing specs and if your are acting as the general contractor or hired someone.
 
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I will be watching this thread. Exact same size that I want to build and just on the other side of the river from you.

Eager to see your framing specs and if your are acting as the general contractor or hired someone.

I am able to do all my own work here (even though I am not going to do it all myself) so am being my own general. So much simpler here than in St. Louis with all the rules of what you can't do and extra hoops to jump through. Planning to do my own plumbing including gas line and HVAC. Probably will need someone to do part of the AC due to the refrigerant handling.

Now to figure out if I can get the floor in or if it's better to go ahead with framing and do the floor later because of the cold weather.

As far as framing specs I may not be much help. What city/county are you in? Few places will let you build a 30 x 40 detached garage unless you get out some distance from the city. I don't have to get stamped drawings here for residential construction but you probably do. I was going to do this in St. Louis county and had plans for that so am generally going from them but raised the framed walls to 14'. St. Louis county prescriptive tables only go to 12' so was planning a 2' stub wall there to get to 14' ceiling height but don't have to do that here. Still going to incorporate most of the wall bracing St. Louis county required and a bit more around the OHDs.

I had someone do my plans for St. Louis but I can't recommend him. Very sloppy which resulted in many rounds of corrections.
 
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Been busy here so haven't posted much but here is an overall view of current condition. The header at the top carries the load but thinking I need something a bit more substantial at the OHD opening top. The sheeting will support and tie the studs to the beam above but thinking a 2x6 inside and out above the flat board would make things a lot more rigid and more to nail casing to. They still need to frame down on the right for a tall door - not sure why they didn't do that before the wall went up. They stood the wall sections up by hand without the sheeting and then put the sheeting up. Two sections for each wall.

The beams are at the top for racking ("portal framing") as there is hardly any load from the roof - this is a gable end.
 

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From your first post - I sleeved pex tubing running through the floor joists in a bathroom in ~1 1/4" dia. pipe. This way I could pull that pex later and not have to tear up a floor or ceiling. And the only downside I could see with Pex was mice, so I figured if the hoard got hungry I'd have a layer of protection.

I'm not sure where you're talking about adding 2x6s, but you want them laying down/flat to provide rigidity.

For your portal frame, make sure your sheathing runs continuous over the header unless you have a secondary system to lock that corner.
 
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