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My Bendpak Experience (so far)

yankeze1

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I wanted to put out a public Thank You and endorsement for Bendpak's customer support!
Here's the story:
I recently purchased an xpr10A, which was purchased through Garage Equipment Supply, as that was the dealer contact they provided me. The deal with GES was quite simple, and all questions, concerns, etc. were quickly addressed, and a great friendly staff on the phone. After 7 days, I receive the call from the local freight depot that the lift is in, and I can come pick it up. We were in the middle of a snow storm that had closed schools, etc., so I waited until the next day. Bad choice, as the weather that day was around 4 degrees, with a 35mph north wind. Great day to be out in a truck drop lot! When I get to the freight depot, I'm directed to a side lot, where "the guys" will meet me. The first thing I see is a forklift picking up the lift in a dock door. They have the forks under the middle of the columns, with torn plastic and cardboard packing flapping in the wind. As I walk closer, one of the workers is taking a walk around it, pulling off all the bright yellow stickers that say to pick it up from the end only, obviously trying to get them off before I see them. They turn around and set it on my trailer, and start to drive off. I stopped them to ask about the damage, as I can see at least one set of scratches from where the forks had pierced the plastic and cardboard. They were hesitant, but I did finally get one of them to note the damage and paint scratches on the receipt, and there was no way I was going to sign for it without that acknowledgement. I also took a few pictures. It wasn't a day to linger outside, so that was it, figuring I would worry about anything else in a warmer place. I took it home, parked in the shop, and let it thaw out. As I started to unpack it, I was shocked. There were scratches everywhere, on every outside surface of both columns. Some were deep enough that there was surface damage, with shiny metal shining through! I called GES right away, and they said that there was touch up paint in the boxes, and it's expected that damage will happen in shipping. I can live with it, or return it, that's my choices. I elected to keep it, as I had a crew lined up the next day to install it. We did the install which went well, with a few glitches that I'm sure is normal with a rookie do it yourself gang! Now that it's up, I turn back to how to handle the damage. I bought a new lift for a new shop, I don't want it to look like ****! I sent a note to Bendpak last night, and received an answer from Bendpak Customer Service Manager Gary this afternoon. He wants to know if it's OK to call, to talk in person. I sent the information, and a couple of hours later he calls me back. First of all, all he was interested in was making this right. The first thing addressed was the paint issues, and he even offered a full gallon of their paint to re-paint the entire thing, if I wished. I opted for spray cans, and he said if that didn't work, they would still go for the full re-paint if I wasn't satisfied with the results from the spray cans. He starts asking what type of things I'll be doing with this lift, since it's not in a commercial business. We talked about the jeeps and trucks I own, and he suggests that I should have the truck pads for the lift arms. He also asks if there is anything else I need, oil drain, etc. I already bought the oil drain, and I said that I was still needing to make or buy a set of safety stands. He says " no problem, what address do I ship these items to?" He said they will ship both those things to me for free, along with the paint. He couldn't have been a nicer guy to deal with, and really try to make things right with me. Every thing we talked about, he was constantly asking if that was OK with me, really wanting me to come away from this feeling like I was taken care of.
We'll see what the touch ups look like, and Gary has asked for photos, so I'll send the before and after, and we'll go from there. I couldn't be happier with Gary and Bendpak for taking care of me. I will definitely be recommending them to others!
Sorry this got so long, Whew!
 
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cyamaha2007

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Your story is identical to mine. My lift was damaged pretty bad also so they sent me some paint and freebees to make me happy. I cant beleve the dock workers treated my lift like that tho. Most plastic was ripped off and the shipping jig was bent like crazy.
 

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I'm involved with domestic and international shipments in my day job - nothing would surprise me. We've seen some pretty horrific stuff. Just unloaded a truck the other day of machines that were sent back to us for retrofit - the customer didn't skid them very well and someone clearly needed an extra foot or so at the back of the truck - it appears that everything was rammed with a fork lift until they could get the last item on (whatever it was was already unloaded when we got the truck).
 

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I have the highest respect for BendPak customer service. Jeff the CEO is a true standup guy! Mine was trucked to my house and we had some difficulty unloading with a full sized backhoe. Unfortunately freight companies don’t pay much above minimum wage for dock workers so you will get damage. Mine was scuffed and scratched but not like yours. I may have to have them send me a spray can as well but I am going to wait till the lift is functional before I figure out if it needs to be prettied up.

I am glad they helped you out.
You are lucky to have a crew to help. I could use one to help finish mine.
 

tonyvlx

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When i purchased my Bendpak HD-9 a few years ago,it was the same thing. It looked like it fell off a truck. Deep scratches and dents.
 

ket-tek

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I went to the dock to pick up two hd-9's when the came in. The smaller ST was in great shape but the longer XW was scratched up pretty good and alot of the packing had been torn off. The guy forked it from the wrong direction right in front of me when there where large labels clearly marked that said to fork from the end.

I asked the fork driver after he moved it onto the truck and was having me sign the paperwork why he didn't fork it from the end like the label shows, he said because he see lifts through there pretty often and never grabs them from the long end because he does not feel like getting off the fork truck to move the forks closer together so they fit and then have get off again to move them apart for the hundreds of standard pallets he has to move after I leave..

Whatever, I noted the damage on the ticket when I signed and left. It's not the end of the world, I used the included spray paint which matched up pretty well.

If it was actually damaged more than the scratches I may pursue it, but otherwise I didn't feel like waiting or reshipping anything, I just assembled it, touched it up, and moved on with life. I did mention to BP about it on the phone the next day when I had an install question, they offered to ship a replacement runway, that's great on their part but I felt it was not necessary for some scratches, and the additional hassle, and just as good of a chance the new one would get scratched as well.

And in the long run BP is doing a great service, but all this additional shipping and replacing of huge runways or columns will have to drive the operating costs and end user pricing over time.
 

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yall are really getting bent out of shape over minor issue, its a lift, paint comes with it. that sucker going get scrath more than that in it lifespan. unless it got bent in half and hoses torn off, keep on living
 

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The XPR-10A is the hoist I am planning to purchase this spring to put in my new 36 x48 x 14 shed. I am very interested in your experiences with BendPax. I am going to be using a full size backhoe with a fork attachment for the front bucket to unload it.

thank you for your post
 

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remember that if/when you buy a NEW truck. Its a truck, you know for work.

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yall are really getting bent out of shape over minor issue, its a lift, paint comes with it. that sucker going get scrath more than that in it lifespan. unless it got bent in half and hoses torn off, keep on living

I wouldnt call it getting bent out of shape. So far we all think the dock workers are at fault and thats mostly out of bendpaks control. I dont fault them. If one of my guys at work treated a customers property like that we would have some real issues. I work for a industrial machine tool business so i understand its equipment not corvettes but any piece of property needs to be respected it shouldnt matter if it is a stack of lead or a new car someone cares enough to buy it therefore the middleman should take care of it.
 

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Products are not painted/coated to get beat up by a lazy fork lift operator or anyone else during delivery. I have an old Rotary lift that has been outside for almost 20 years. It's faded and even rusty in places. But it is not all scratched up and I'm almost sure neither is your lift. Your expensive roll-a-way is not all beat up and it has more tools coming at it then the lift.

Nothing in this world should be delivered worse then the way it was made. It can and should be delivered correctly as intended. Or consumers should be offered a different delivery choice for an extra fee. The no damage, we will see to it care option. BendPak can keep the extra paint and "free" be's. Their phone will ring less too.

I bought a BP scissor lift less then a year ago for my garage. It works great and it's not all scratched up (or other hidden damage). I'm looking to get the 10K tall ceiling 2 post by summer. After reading this I will arrange a customer pick up in Santa Paula which is less than 2 hours away from me. They can save the "free" delivery too.

UPS are you listening? You manage (if you can call it that) a bunch of gorillas too.
 

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I sure hope the one I ordered shows up alright, especially after paying extra for red. Kind good to know bp is so willing to make things right.
 

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I had the same issue with my xpr10. I had some scratches on my lift when unpacked and one of the shipping frames was bent and the bolts holding it on were loose.

This is a fact of life when anything ships to my rural location, horrible roads around here are mostly to blame. But the scratches on my lift were clearly from where it had been forklifted from the side.

I never called bend-pack to complain but I think they could make some provisions so that the lift could be forklifted conventionally, as this seems to be the source of a lot of damage from shipping.
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On the near end you can see the loose and twisted shipping frame, and the hole in the shrink wrap further away on the bottom edge that corresponds to the scratches on the column. The lift is shipped with a weight bias to the end they tell you to pick it up from. My best guess is that it was lifted incorrectly and fell toward the heavy end landing on the shipping frame.
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I agree, the shipping package should be able to be lifted from the side with a normal fork lift. Most loading docks donot have a fork lift with long forks, So as to be able to lift a long piece from the end. That being said I would have a camera with me when I went to pick up my lift from the frieght co and if it was damaged from improper handling I would document all the damage and call Bend pak before I excepted delivery. I was in the trucking business for 42 yrs before retiring, So I have been on all sides of this Issue. Yes you are right most of the guys working on the dock don't give a rats *** about the frieght they are handling.
 

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I hate it when shipping companies beat up stuff. The companies you are buying from are having to mark prices up to offset the cost of replacement parts, paint, etc... to accomodate their lack of giving a ****. So it's bad for all of us! :)
 

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I agree, the shipping package should be able to be lifted from the side with a normal fork lift. Most loading docks donot have a fork lift with long forks, So as to be able to lift a long piece from the end.

Yes, being able to lift from the side without damage would be an improvement for handling the package around the dock. Actually, Bendpak's packaging is quite good if handled properly. It can be lifted from the end with standard forks, it is designed this way so to be able to be loaded on and off of enclosed trailers. I had mine shipped to a local lumberyard because they had a forklift. I was concerned about how we were going to be able to unload a long heavy object from an enclosed trailer. Due to the design of the package, it went effortlessly. There was some minor damage from being transferred between shipping lines (I assume)

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I also purchased a XRP10 and had similar freight problems. The freight Company cost me a week tying to find the first lift. It "fell" off the truck somewhere between California and Texas....... I kept getting excuses and delays from the freight company as was Bendpak. Bendpak stayed in constant contact with me and ended up shipping a second lift before the freight company finished "looking" for this small item. I was at the freight dock when the second lift was being Unloaded. Reading and following large
brightly colored stickers is not in their job requirement of the freight company. Neither is commonsense. The truck driver for the freight company REFUSED to unload other delivery items to access my lift and just drove back and forth with the froklift until he was able to yank it free of the truck. Then he proceeded to pick it up from the center even when I pointed out that it was brightly labeled NOT TOO!! His decision was that BendPak didn't know what they were talking about. I took pictures with the perturbed Freight truck driver waiting for a signature and noted damages/scratches on the paper work. Again Bendpak offered touch up paint but no free bees of equipment. I was pleased with Bendpak through all this but still frustrated and touch up paint is still never the same as new.
 

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Bendpak needs to up their game and improve on their packaging.
There's seems to be a consistent problem with damaged packaging and goods.

I bet if they had a lot more lifts refused/returned due to damage, they would be more likely to improve on shipment materials.

Instead, they offer (bribe) the pissed off buyer with some cheap paint and trinkets and hope the problem goes away....brilliant product support....:lol_hitti
 
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Packaging was great! A welded and bolted set of end brackets that hold and position the main towers AND protect both ends AND allow for proper fork placement and lifting with very visible labels on how to utilize these brackets. Banding iron, cardboard and plastic wrap everywhere. But a set of heavy/large steel forks is no match for anything less than armor plating if people will not read, think and follow instructions. The main issue I saw was after reading the instructions the fork lift operator HAS to adjust the width of the forks to accommodate the width of the cargo. That means getting off his *** and making a concerned effort to do a good job. See post 13's pictures
 

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The packaging on the BP is pretty good IMO. Yeah mine had some scratches but it's due to the freight company. Not sure how much better some of you guys would expect it to be.

I mean I suppose it could come in a fully constructed crate of 2x4's and plywood but the HD9XW I got is like 18 feet long, that's one hell of a crate, it would add hundreds of pounds and additional shipping charges as well, plus I have to get rid of it all too. Then all the wood that gets wasted and thrown away for all the 1000's of lifts that BP ships out? Yeah a handful of guys here may build shelving from the free wood, but 90% of those crates will get sawzall'd up and thrown in a dumpster or landfill.

Not to mention how many times I've seen forklift holes straight through plywood crates anyway. Some freight terminals just happen to have people in a hurry that don't give a **** about what they are doing.

You can fork it from the side sure, it doesn't harm it to be lifted this way, it's that the fork drivers end up stabbing stuff or picking it up of center and it falls over to one side because this stuff is awkwardly weighted and is 12-20ft long, but it still must be forked from the end to put it inside an enclosed tractor trailer.

I just hope these discussions on the forum doesn't make every guy with a little scuff on his lift start expecting BP to send them $300-400 worth of free **** or he'll bash them in a thread. That's getting ridiculous, and BP may be opening themselves up to this scenario. I think the people that do get some spiffs should keep it to themselves and not publicize it for this reason.
 

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I just got my hd9stx 4 post and don't really have any complaint. It had a few scuffs and scratches, but these were from the parts moving around within the package(s). No damage from the carrier (yellow freight), and the forklift driver at the terminal was very professional. All in all I'm happy....
 

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To the OP- thank you for an excellent thread. This is probably the most valuable type of thread, right up there with 'how to' threads. Great info of those of us who will be buying a lift in the near future. Appreciated!:beer:
 

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@ ket-tek
I dont see where anyone is bashing bend pak, but there is clearly an issue with the fact that these lifts are being lifted from the side and being damaged.
Im merely suggesting that bend pak could take some steps to make the lift safe to lift from the side, such as covering the column facing down with wood as opposed to card board and marking where the center of gravity is.
I paid for a new lift and it arrived damaged. And whoever dropped it took no responsibility.
If you paid $3500 for a tool box and it rolled off the tool truck with gouges and scratches all over it and you were handed a bottle of touch up paint, would you be okay with that?
 

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I just received my BendPak 2 Post Lift on Monday. BendPak offers 2 types of Shipping....Flatbed, and Reg Box truck. Their Website explains that its more common to see issues such as scratching when they ship in the box Truck. This is because your Lift might be put on and removed from several trucks before it gets to you. The Downside is, the flatbed could take 2 weeks, and box truck 3-4 Days. I opted for the box Truck, and asked them to ship me some paint just incase. I was too excited and could not wait 2 weeks..lol. I was lucky, mine was shipped Via "Conway", and it was brought to my door in MINT condition. Was not a single scratch on it. Jeff with BendPak (he is on this forum) was VERY helpful, and even happend to come by my shop personally to help me pick out the Right lift. When was the last time a VP came out to a shop because he met you on GJ, and wanted to make sure you made the right choice. So far BendPak has been amazing to me!
 
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yankeze1

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The packaging on the BP is pretty good IMO. Yeah mine had some scratches but it's due to the freight company. Not sure how much better some of you guys would expect it to be.
I just hope these discussions on the forum doesn't make every guy with a little scuff on his lift start expecting BP to send them $300-400 worth of free **** or he'll bash them in a thread. That's getting ridiculous, and BP may be opening themselves up to this scenario. I think the people that do get some spiffs should keep it to themselves and not publicize it for this reason.

Just to clarify, I was simply saying Thank You to Bendpak for a great experience. It is a rare treat to get such good response these days. In contacting them, I wasn't fishing for "free ****" as you put it. Perhaps some operate that way, but there was never any intention of "bashing them in a thread", regardless of the outcome. I was simply wanting to get the touch up paint that I was told was with the original order. Gary went way above and beyond what I could have ever expected. Perhaps I should be more careful in sharing good experiences in the future, and try to limit my posts to bitching and bashing.

The attached photos are the worst cases, but there was damage to all four sides of each column.
I hope these "little scuffs" are enough to justify to you the reason I called for touch up paint.
 

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ket-tek

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@ ket-tek
I dont see where anyone is bashing bend pak, but there is clearly an issue with the fact that these lifts are being lifted from the side and being damaged.
Im merely suggesting that bend pak could take some steps to make the lift safe to lift from the side, such as covering the column facing down with wood as opposed to card board and marking where the center of gravity is.
I paid for a new lift and it arrived damaged. And whoever dropped it took no responsibility.
If you paid $3500 for a tool box and it rolled off the tool truck with gouges and scratches all over it and you were handed a bottle of touch up paint, would you be okay with that?

Just to clarify, I was simply saying Thank You to Bendpak for a great experience. It is a rare treat to get such good response these days. In contacting them, I wasn't fishing for "free ****" as you put it. Perhaps some operate that way, but there was never any intention of "bashing them in a thread", regardless of the outcome. I was simply wanting to get the touch up paint that I was told was with the original order. Gary went way above and beyond what I could have ever expected. Perhaps I should be more careful in sharing good experiences in the future, and try to limit my posts to bitching and bashing.

The attached photos are the worst cases, but there was damage to all four sides of each column.
I hope these "little scuffs" are enough to justify to you the reason I called for touch up paint.



To both you guys and others that assume I meant what I said was about this particular thread. I'm sure my wording is not the best.

I didn't think the OP or others were bashing BP, or only trying to get free stuff. What I was getting at is that I do worry it could get carried away in the future as people tell all the free stuff they got, then you'll have people the expect it, demand it, or abuse the generosity to get free stuff for minor nicks and scuffs or possibly even lie about damage as a worst case. This could eventually drive up costs and also bring down BP's willingness to help people with legit issues.

And that if BP decides to stop being overly generous then future purchasers may start bashing them based their hopes/expectations of getting free gear 'like all the others got'..
 

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Just to clarify, I was simply saying Thank You to Bendpak for a great experience. It is a rare treat to get such good response these days. In contacting them, I wasn't fishing for "free ****" as you put it. Perhaps some operate that way, but there was never any intention of "bashing them in a thread", regardless of the outcome. I was simply wanting to get the touch up paint that I was told was with the original order. Gary went way above and beyond what I could have ever expected. Perhaps I should be more careful in sharing good experiences in the future, and try to limit my posts to bitching and bashing.

The attached photos are the worst cases, but there was damage to all four sides of each column.
I hope these "little scuffs" are enough to justify to you the reason I called for touch up paint.

That is definitely worth complaining about, BP needs to address issues with the freight company. My scrapes were very minor compared to that.
 
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To both you guys and others that assume I meant what I said was about this particular thread. I'm sure my wording is not the best.

I didn't think the OP or others were bashing BP, or only trying to get free stuff. What I was getting at is that I do worry it could get carried away in the future as people tell all the free stuff they got, then you'll have people the expect it, demand it, or abuse the generosity to get free stuff for minor nicks and scuffs or possibly even lie about damage as a worst case. This could eventually drive up costs and also bring down BP's willingness to help people with legit issues.

And that if BP decides to stop being overly generous then future purchasers may start bashing them based their hopes/expectations of getting free gear 'like all the others got'..


Understood, and thanks for the explanation! It's sometimes very difficult to get the tone of a post simply in text. I think I had a legitimate reason to contact them, but I get what you are saying about freebies. Anytime something is "free" the vultures will be circling! :beer:
 

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My packaging o my HD9XW was excellent. The only damage I had came from the installer dragging parts on the concrete. Bend Pak uses more and better packaging then most.
 

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The reason that most frt companies move loads from the short side is because the capacity of the forklift is rated based on the load center of the load. The capacity of a fork lift is rated 24' from the heel of the forks. If the load is 8ft long the capacity is derated to pointnthat it probably won't lift the load.
The frt companies typically buy 5,000lb lifts. Bottom line they won't handle the load from the end of the load.
 

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Bendpak needs to improve the packaging to allow lifting from the side. It is crazy not to. Short money compared to dealing with all these issues.
 

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Wow I guess I was one of the lucky ones! I bought my BendPak through Ebay and dealt with a company in Ohio. The transaction was complete when GES contacted me for the purchase. I found that very disappointing that another dealer would try to take the sale away from another but stopped that quickly! My delievery from the factory was smooth although they had to separate the lift in Denver supposedly due to the snow storm at the time. The lift was still delievered on time, intact and was easy although really needed a 2nd or even a 3rd to help me next time! Long and short I am really satisified with BendPack!!!
 
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