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Can you give us a little more info on the roof insulation?
Do I understand that you put it on top of the sheathing and put the sheet metal down?
Is there any provision for a vapor barrier?
 
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Can you give us a little more info on the roof insulation?
Do I understand that you put it on top of the sheathing and put the sheet metal down?
Is there any provision for a vapor barrier?

Yes, The insulation is R-Max rigid foam insulation by Thermasheath. I put 2" tall strips of 2x4 down on the sheeting 24" apart and placed the rigid insulation between them. Then used the strips to staple tar paper down. Then the corrugated roofing went down with screws into the wood strips on top of the tar paper. So the tar paper is the vapor barrier. And the wood strips give the corrugated something hard to be pulled down to. I might be able to find a picture of it as I installed it I'll have to look.

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Very unique. I think it is a great build. I always thought about useing some old big church stained glass windows in a house but never a garage.
 
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OK, we now have paint, actually I should say stain. We shot the shop with Benjamin-Moore Semi-Solid stain a week and a half ago but I wanted to get the most of the trim up before I posted more pictures. Here goes.

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My Dad painting rafter tails from the tractor bucket. OSHA approved?
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And this last weekend we spent trenching for electrical and water back to the house. I borrowed a brand new (hehe!) trencher from my cousin to take some of the back breaking work out of it. I needed to do a bit of maintenance on it before I could put it to work and I found one date on the B&S motor showing that the trencher is a 1959 or 60 model. This is a super fun machine to operate and quickly reminds the operator why so many old guys are missing fingers.

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It is, unfortunately, missing the powered material conveyor thingy under the machine so you have to walk along next to it with a shovel and constantly remove the soil out from under it, other then that it worked beautifully. If any of you out there in TV land have any info on this machine please let me know. It was made by ARPS Corp. and it is the Trench-Devil model. I would love to build a new material conveyor for it but I need to know just how it worked from the factory.

Well, I hope you enjoyed this installment. I hope to get the glass for my clerestory this week and start the construction so the next installment should hopefully have pictures of a beautiful enclosed building. Almost enclosed at any rate, I started on the doors but I am not sure if they will be done before the clerestory, gotta get the roof closed up as first priority.

Thanx, Jaysin
 
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Wow, either no one liked the color I chose or no body noticed the new post. Any way I should have a few more pictures after this weekend, we're trying hard to get the electrical all buttoned up so I can get the "Green Tag" and PG&E can do the service drop. Wish me luck. Jaysin
 

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Looking good, I like the siding and stain choice. Not the average garage. The clerestory is awesome, keep the updates coming.
 

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So nice to see your Dad and Dad in law there all the way through - you're a lucky man. (Too bad we have to get married to have two Dad's though!) I really like the design to let the sun in. Any chance you'd take some pics of the light coming in, or of the ceiling from inside the shop?
Great shop!
 
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So nice to see your Dad and Dad in law there all the way through - you're a lucky man. (Too bad we have to get married to have two Dad's though!) I really like the design to let the sun in. Any chance you'd take some pics of the light coming in, or of the ceiling from inside the shop?
Great shop!

e-tek, THere are a few pictures earlier in this thread that show the ceiling and some of how the light comes in (I don't really want to repost the pics as it already takes a bit to load). That said, the ceiling will stay open rafters and only the walls will have sheetrock. I really like the openness that the ceiling has with the ridge beam and rafters exposed, and the light plays well on them. I will definitely get pictures up as soon as I get the clerestory windows built and installed, then I will really know what the light will look like.

As for the Dad thing, it is the best that they are willing to come and help. I don't think I could have gotten this far with out the help of my family. My wife has supported me and helped every step of the way, my mom, dad and dad-in-law as well as cousins and friends have all been there to work for dinner and beer. This building is a real labor of love (and family).

Thanx to everybody who has posted in this thread, you guys all help to keep my spirits high and keep me pushing ahead. I will keep you updated with my progress.

Jaysin
 
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OK, just a small update. First up is the electrical mast for the service drop. I wanted it as high overhead as I could but I didn't want cables running across the roof so I made up a bracket so that there was less then 4' of rigid conduit left unsupported (as per code).

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And a close up.

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I shot it with some Rustoleum Primer and then a nice thick coat of Rustoleum Machine Grey Gloss. It should hold up to the elements well. PG&E says that they will be doing the drop on Dec. 1st so I am looking forward to having real power in the shop soon.:bounce:

And second, the glass for the clerestory windows is in and we should start the window casing construction this weekend. I will also be doing more work on the big doors. So hopefully I will have more pictures after the weekend.:thumbup:

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Jaysin you and your family are doing a great job, very nice looking shop.

Where in the Bay Area are you?

-Rob


Thanx for the compliment. I'm not in the bay I'm in the gold country, near Jackson. Out of curiosity, why did you think Bay Area?

Jaysin
 

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I am interested in the construction detail for the joists and the central beam.
For the short joists I can see you just used hangers.
But the on long joists is there a small birds mouth and some kind of metal bracing?
 
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So we have here a small update. The clerestory windows are coming along, taking a bit longer then expected but not much. We now have all the wood parts milled and have glued up the smallest ones, and as you can see here we have mocked up one of the large windows (nearly 6' long).

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And I have also designed and built all the hinges that will allow them to operate like the elementary school transom windows, pull in at the top and kick out at the bottom. We decided to inset the hinges into the casing so I designed a router pattern and made it out of steel on my cnc plasma table (cheating or smart?) And here is the result. The wood under the hinges has the bronze bushings already installed for the windows to pivot on.

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Last is the doors for the large openings in the shop. Only the 4' wide ones have been skinned. The first shot is of the frames and the second is with skins and 232 rivets each. You can also see the door handle on the one standing up, it will actuate pins top and bottom that will act as the latch mechanism.

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So that is the update as of right now. We should have the power hooked up tomorrow (Monday), God and PG&E willing.:bowdown: Hope to have more pictures for you after next weekend, should be windows finished and maybe even all the doors skinned and ready to install.

kbs2244,

As for the long side rafters they are birds-mouthed and attached to the ridge beam with Simpson hurricane ties. The steel you see in the other pictures is the blocking I made to take place of the wood blocking that would normally go there, I didn't want to block the light from the clerestory windows.

Jaysin
 
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OK. We have an update.

We finished up the Clerestory window construction and installed them yesterday (Friday). All went well and it's another step closer to finished, just in time for the snow.

Here's a shot of one of the small end windows so you can see how they open.

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And here we have all of them in and we are just finishing up. Plus you get to see my best side.

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I also finished my BIG doors and we hung them today. They consist of a swinging 4' x 10' "Man Door" (the building dept. needed a door that swings out for easy egress and they didn't care how big it was) and a 6' x 10' slider. I had some shots of the doors during construction a few posts back but it is really cool to see them up. They seem massive now that they're in place, way fun.

Here's a shot of the hinge brackets and another of one of the slider tracks.

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First slider hung and the rest in a stack in the shop.

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Here is both doors up and my beautiful wife and I for some scale.

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This is them from the inside, I really like the asymmetrical look from the inside (it compliments the look of the building). As of now they are just steel but they will get insulation against the skin in the spaces between the framework. And I decided that I will cover the insulation with chalkboard material giving me a great big place to write myself reminders (34 years old and already CRS is setting in).

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I still have to assemble the latch mechanism and the handles but it feels good to have a (almost) closed up building. And because I can't leave you with out the overall picture...

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The doors are bare cold rolled steel that will get a bit of rust for a finish (compliments of vinegar and water) which will make all 1000 aluminum rivets really stand out. I'll get some more shots for you once the doors are totally finished. For now it is two more big steps crossed off of the punch list, we are getting close to final inspection. Yeeeeeaaaaa!!
 
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I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces ath the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?
 
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I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces at the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?

They will get sheeted at the ends of the clerestory and then the little open triangle between the eves will get a small piece of sheeting just to close it up. When I ordered the roofing material I neglected to get the corrugated material that covers the roof sheeting between the eves, I have since picked up the material and I will put it down just before that corner is sheeted.

Thanx for the props, I am really excited to have it so close to completed.

Jaysin
 

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Outstanding! So you've mentioned that you got the glass from Sacramento.. looks like you're in the hills somewhere nearby, eh? Off of 80 or off of 50?

Either way, it's neat to see someone in the area with a killer project like this. :)
 
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Outstanding! So you've mentioned that you got the glass from Sacramento.. looks like you're in the hills somewhere nearby, eh? Off of 80 or off of 50?

Either way, it's neat to see someone in the area with a killer project like this. :)

South of 50 off of hwy 88, gold country. If you mean the stained glass then yes they all came from old buildings that were torn down in the Sac area. The clerestory glass also came from a friend that works as a glazier in the Sac and Bay areas. I'm happy to see that peope like it, it has been a labor of love.

Jaysin
 

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Wow, what a nice shop. Great design, and really nice details that you've included. Any plans to heat/cool the space?
 
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Wow, what a nice shop. Great design, and really nice details that you've included. Any plans to heat/cool the space?

We'll I will definitely need heat (we just got our first real snow of the year) but the summer here isn't too bad so I don't know about the cooling. I have a few options for heat, wood fire, waste oil burner, propane (too expensive so it would only be temporary), or some combo. I still need to make the decision. I have looked at an oil burner design on Journey to Forever and it looks much better the the old MEN heater ( you can find it here http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me11.html ). But I also have to remove about 3 or so acres of Manzanita and I have a fair amount of Oak as well. I am sure I will figure it out soon, and any advice is welcome.

Jaysin
 

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OK, we now have paint, actually I should say stain. We shot the shop with Benjamin-Moore Semi-Solid stain a week and a half ago but I wanted to get the most of the trim up before I posted more pictures. Here goes.
And this last weekend we spent trenching for electrical and water back to the house. I borrowed a brand new (hehe!) trencher from my cousin to take some of the back breaking work out of it. I needed to do a bit of maintenance on it before I could put it to work and I found one date on the B&S motor showing that the trencher is a 1959 or 60 model. This is a super fun machine to operate and quickly reminds the operator why so many old guys are missing fingers.



It is, unfortunately, missing the powered material conveyor thingy under the machine so you have to walk along next to it with a shovel and constantly remove the soil out from under it, other then that it worked beautifully. If any of you out there in TV land have any info on this machine please let me know. It was made by ARPS Corp. and it is the Trench-Devil model. I would love to build a new material conveyor for it but I need to know just how it worked from the factory.

Well, I hope you enjoyed this installment. I hope to get the glass for my clerestory this week and start the construction so the next installment should hopefully have pictures of a beautiful enclosed building. Almost enclosed at any rate, I started on the doors but I am not sure if they will be done before the clerestory, gotta get the roof closed up as first priority.

Thanx, Jaysin



check out this e-bay listing think its a broshour for you machine...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-ARPS-Trenc...QQptZBI_Books_Manuals?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
 
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check out this e-bay listing think its a broshour for you machine...


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-ARPS-Trenc...QQptZBI_Books_Manuals?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Rayjay~ Thanx for the link. That seems like the same model but a bit (7-8 years) newer. I still have not found much info on it. I did find out that the company that built it is still around and I contacted them to get some info but it turns out that they did not have the owner's manual any more, so a strike out there. Any way thanx again.

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I really like the way this is coming together.
What is the plan for the little spaces ath the ends of the windows.
Over and under the overhangs?
Leave them as is or box them in?

So I answered this question before but now it is done so I thought I would add a picture to make it absolutely clear.

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And While I am at it, here's a couple shots of the door handles and the latch mechanisms.

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And so you have an Idea of the setting that the shop lives in, a picture from the house.

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And one more just because it looks so good a night with the new outside lights up.

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I hope you all like it as it is getting really close to the final and there isn't much I can change now. :spit:
 
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Well I have been busy and I do believe that the building is ready for it's FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been so busy what with X-mas and all I don't have pictures ready but I will get the latest up in a day or two.

This Thursday through today we finished the dirt work (trench filling/final grade), trim and flashing, and a **** load of little things that needed to be done and now comes the moment of truth the Final Inspection, wish me luck.

Jaysin
 
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YEAH IT'S PASSED THE FINAL!!!

My inspector came today and signed it off with no questions to ask. Just says "looks nice". So here's a few shots of it all done.
Trim and flashing came out real well and the my door latch mechanisms work great.

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So there it is. I still need to add some gravel to the road areas, but that wont happen for at least 3-4 days as it is way too muddy around the shop. And now I can add a bit more electrical and insulation and wall sheetrock and then it will be ready to move all my equipment into. This whole trip has been well worth the drive. I hope that you all like it. I'll keep all posted as I finish the inside.

Jaysin
 

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Really superior work. I love it. All the design details, the fabrication.... Really just amazing. Kudos and congrats to you.
 

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Congrats on passing the final Jay!! You have put a lot of hard work and imaginative thinking into your project and you should be justly proud. We all really enjoyed following along with your build.
 

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Sweet job - awesome use of the stained glass and "wrench" handles. I must admit, its pretty amazing looking at these pictures of shops around the U.S. and seeing all the different types of construction due to local codes. Being from California - I must admit it is the weirdest thing seeing something built without all the earthquake requirements!
 

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I love the vent/light idea. There must be an architect in the family somewhere...
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