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Hi John,

That is a great find; using the radial to drill and tap it, PRICELESS!

I saw a really neat layout table at the Beech auction in Salina, it was about that size and it had T-slots gridded out in 12" squares. The finish was perfect, in fact I talked to the tool maker who used it, he said it was within .0015. That was on my wish list until it soared to 6800.00.

You must be getting kinda tight on space in there, when is phase II on the shop start?

Steve

Aye, I was thinking about that today. "I'll just stick it under the radial and poke some holes and eat some ice cream, no biggie..." :D

$6,800 is insane!

Phase II is in the planning stages. It involves a lot of concrete and steel. :)

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You don't half-do anything! I'm looking forward to seeing that table ready for use.

I like the heavy stuff. :D
 
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I was asked earlier this week by Lookin4'67Galaxieconv to post some photos of my shop. Well, after completely re-arranging it to accommodate the latest machine, here it is!

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I have the same radiol drill you have. Wate Ineed to go to my shop and see if I still have it. Nice shop. Some of the people on here don't know what is realy going on here.
 

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A_Pmech, aren't you a bit afraid that some wacko tweeking scrapper will come along and make off with your 'welding table' top? LOL

Looking forward to seeing posted plans of A_Pmech's Awesome Annex! When do you plan to build the powerhouse to supply juice for all of your high power tools?
 
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Biker: Thanks!

Omphaloskeptic: The locals know the dog, the dog knows the locals. The locals don't bother the dog. ;)

When I have the time. :lol:

I haven't decided exactly how I want to do that yet and I haven't found all the right equipment to do the job.
 

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A_Pmech, aren't you a bit afraid that some wacko tweeking scrapper will come along and make off with your 'welding table' top? LOL

Dunno where Ultima Ratio refers to, but I ain't visiting. No way do I want to meet a tweaker that can ****** a 3,500 slab of steel.... :lol_hitti
 

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John, good stuff man... I wish I had your machining skills so I could justify getting some good machines and making something quality like your Hammer or Punch set..

Can't wait for you to tool up for those Tap Charts again... don't forget to shoot me a PM or something when they're in print again.
 
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John, good stuff man... I wish I had your machining skills so I could justify getting some good machines and making something quality like your Hammer or Punch set..

Can't wait for you to tool up for those Tap Charts again... don't forget to shoot me a PM or something when they're in print again.

Thanks MD11, will do!

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Now that spring is almost here, things are starting to pick up again and my winter job as a heavy equipment operator is about to end. While not very exciting to most people, I received a delivery yesterday that I've been waiting a LONG time for. A dumpster!

Now, to most people, especially those who live in a city, a dumpster is totally anti-climactic. But when you run a business way out in the sticks, such things are a luxury. It wasn't until recently that a trash company from another town began offering rural dumpster service.

Now, rather than having to burn all my trash I can now throw it in the dumpster and it gets whisked to a far-off location to die, saving me hours of time.

"Taking out the trash" around here now involves parking my new dumpster curbside with the forklift.

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The dumpster; a key element in the equation - "A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING, AND EVERYTHING IN ITS' PLACE!". :thumbup:

The above picture makes me want both the dumpster and the forklift! :drool:
 
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I got a little more work done to the welding table last night after bringing it inside to do a few welding projects. The table had a light coat of rust on it when I bought it, the result of sitting in a shop unused for at least a decade. To remove the rust I used my tried and true method: Light oil and a Scotch Brite pad on a sheet sander:

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Here's the table with my 6" Morgan Chicago in position to mark the mounting hole locations:

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Today, time permitting, I'm going to take the table out and give the sides a quick wire brushing and a coat of paint.
 

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Scotchbrite on a sheet sander, I love it! Does it just stay in place with pressure or do you attach it some way?
 
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Scotchbrite on a sheet sander, I love it! Does it just stay in place with pressure or do you attach it some way?

Scotch Brite hand pads are just the right size to fit into the clips on the sander. Just cut about 1.5" from the width of the pad, if so inclined.

It leaves a nice finish and sure beats breathing rust.
 
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Here's a quick little shop project I did today:

Torching out a few circles:

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Welding up:

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Finished!

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Next in the works is building a wall-mount clamp for my oxy-acetylene bottles and a hose / torch rack.
 

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Aww Shucks, I wanted to see those circles being cut on the DOALL; better yet, watching a video of A_Pmech turning down a billet of Aluminum to a spool that size! lol

Yea, I, too, want to watch the transformation of that monster slab into an elegant welding table. I really want to see the casters that are going to make it a 'mobile' welding table. :yikes:
 
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Oh goody! AP_Mech has time to start working on the welding table...I've been looking forward to this!

M_P

:D

I have to admit, after welding on the floor for ten years, this will be quite the upgrade! Having already made a few jobs on the new table while on my knees I can say it's positively excellent!

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that is nice John.... high quality.

Thanks! Not quite as handy as having two hangers - one for each cable, but it fits within the space constraints rather well.

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Aww Shucks, I wanted to see those circles being cut on the DOALL; better yet, watching a video of A_Pmech turning down a billet of Aluminum to a spool that size! lol

Yea, I, too, want to watch the transformation of that monster slab into an elegant welding table. I really want to see the casters that are going to make it a 'mobile' welding table.

I did a little contour sawing on this job, making the 1/4" thick filler plate out of a section of scrap I had lying around. You can see it installed in the pipe in the middle photo.

Casters? The good kind... Aerol. :)
 
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Continuing on the welding theme I decided to ditch my torch cart. With 75' of torch hose the cart is rather redundant and takes up a lot of unnecessary space. To replace it I decided on a wall-mount cylinder bracket, which is safer than a cart as it firmly anchors the cylinders to a fixed object - the wall.

There are commercial wall-mount cylinder brackets available, but they're rather uninspired. So, rather than buy one I torched out a few more radii with the circle cutting attachment:

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After torching out four identical brackets I match drilled them on the radial drill. The holes sizes are 5/8" and 1"

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Back to the welding table you can see the bracket starting to take shape. To reduce distortion the entire bracket is made with single-bevel **** welds on the ends of the tie rods. The welds are then ground flush:

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A close-up showing how the tie rod ends are prepared:

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Here's the finished cylinder bracket installed on the wall. This view shows how the rack swings open to release the cylinders. A standard 5/8" hitch pin is used to secure the rack in the closed position. A 3" C-channel is welded into the back half of the bracket to provide a place to mount the bracket to the wall:

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The finished rack and a hose hanger I made based on the same design as the welding lead hanger:

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Here's a quick little shop project I did today:

Torching out a few circles:

cableholder.jpg


Welding up:

cableholder1.jpg


Finished!

cableholder2.jpg


Next in the works is building a wall-mount clamp for my oxy-acetylene bottles and a hose / torch rack.

First, I like the hose rack and the torch rack. However I have to ask:
1. Where did you get the circle attachment for the torch?
2. What are the little angle brackets in the picture of the hose rack? I've never seen those before.

I guess to follow the batman theme I just saw... Where does he get such wonderful toys????
 
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First, I like the hose rack and the torch rack. However I have to ask:
1. Where did you get the circle attachment for the torch?
2. What are the little angle brackets in the picture of the hose rack? I've never seen those before.

I guess to follow the batman theme I just saw... Where does he get such wonderful toys????

I made the circle attachment one night in a fit of boredom. I'm going to make another one soon for small circles which uses a straight machine torch and looks more like a compass.

The "angle brackets" are step blocks, which are used for machine tool setups. They also work great for quickly establishing height for welding setups where location is not as critical as squareness and parallelism.

Scrounging.

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I really like the cylinder bracket. Well done.

Thanks!

:)

mjozefow said:
I think you should have drilled all the holes with a #11 twist drill.

I could drill a thousand #11 holes in your new roof using one drill per hole and I would still have a lifetime's supply.

:lol:
 

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Re: My Garage Shop

It's been a little while since I posted to this thread.

Here's my current shop project, a Cincinnati 12" Universal Dividing Head with lead attachment. This was purchased by the United States Navy in 1940 and, according to the inventory tags was put into long-term storage in 1957. Needless to say, it is covered in nastiness but appears in good shape.

This will be mostly a clean up and deburr operation, it's been banged around a lot over the years. The dividing head and tailstock bases will need to be stoned and possibly scraped as they have been kicked around on a concrete floor. Otherwise, it is complete except for the picking pin and sector and in good, but gooey condition. Here it is almost completely disassembled:

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Some of the parts all cleaned up:

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A couple of the USN stamps:

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Here's a couple pages from the 1940 brochure:

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Once I get it back together I'll have to use it to make one of it's own parts. That should be entertaining. :thumbup:

What does a dividing head do, you ask? It divides a circle into almost any number of equal segments, such as for making gears. However, this dividing head goes a step further. When geared to the mill's table with the gearbox and change gears, it turns as the milling machine table moves in X, generating a helix. This is useful for milling helical gears, milling cutters, roots blower rotors, etc.

Technically, dividing heads are "obsolete". I'd say the majority of machinists under the age of 40 can make a spur gear with one and a few can knock out a helical gear in a timely fashion. A select few could turn out herringbone gear that actually works. But what about something even more complicated, such as a centrifugal compressor rotor like this:

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This is the point at which most manual machinists would walk away in disgust and a fair number of cnc machinists would too. The remainder would begin biting their fingernails. Talk of "5 axis cnc" would be discussed along with "CAD" and "solid modeling". The idea of machining such a shape manually would be laughed at and I suspect quite a few would use the word "impossible".

Enter the shops of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) in 1945. The digital computer was still a theory and a functional computer controlled milling machine was almost 25 years away. Airplanes of the day were powered by large reciprocating piston engines. To reach higher altitudes and higher specific power ratings, more efficient supercharger and turbocharger geometry was necessary and was an area of heavy research. This was one of the tasks of NACA.

Here's how NACA made prototype supercharger rotors in 1945. A Cincinatti Universal Milling Machine with a Bridgeport "M" milling attachment on the overarm, a Cincinatti 12" Universal Dividing Head just like mine on the table and a shop-brew hydraulic tracing attachment keeping everything in time:

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So, the next time somebody says the only way something can be made is with a "5-axis cnc", tell them the old guys could do it on that old horizontal mill in the back corner under the frayed tarp, because it's true.

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:bowdown: Old School Machinists RULE!!!!!!!:bowdown:
 
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Yea, I, too, want to watch the transformation of that monster slab into an elegant welding table. I really want to see the casters that are going to make it a 'mobile' welding table. :yikes:

Here they are. They're Aerol casters. Most commonly found on airport ground service equipment, engine cradles, maintenance scaffolds, bomb carriers, etc. These are rated at 2,400lbs each at 5MPH due to the soft rubber tread. The caster frame is rated for 10,000lbs at 5MPH. They're rather conservatively built. :)

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I"m gonna assume you need some equipment to actually make that table roll right? Like a forklift or an old Chevy? Or pull pots in the floor and a come along?
 
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Are they machine shop related, aviation, what? :eek:

Aerol was once a division of Lockheed. Their casters are mostly found on aircraft / aerospace related ground service equipment, such as the carts for the Space Shuttle's engines:

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fergus said:
I"m gonna assume you need some equipment to actually make that table roll right? Like a forklift or an old Chevy? Or pull pots in the floor and a come along?

No, I should be able to roll it by myself. Good casters make a world of difference in rolling resistance.
 
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As an aside, some might wonder what the little gizmo is hanging off the left side of the engines in the photo above. The gizmo is the high pressure fuel turbopump "HPFTP" for short.

When the engine is running at rated thrust, the HPFTP delivers approximately 17,000 gallons per minute of Liquid Hydrogen at 4,400 PSI while operating in excess of 35,000 RPM.

75,000 horsepower, provided by the HPFTP's own power turbine, is consumed in the process.

At approximately 3' long, the HPFTP weighs a scant 775 lbs, 300-odd pounds less than a Cummins 5.9 Diesel. As of 1990, it was the highest specific power output rotating device built by man.

http://www.enginehistory.org/SSME/SSME4_2.pdf
 

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A_Pmech, you certainly don't do things 'half-measure', do you? lol

If a thing is good enough for the Space Shuttle, it's probably acceptable to A_Pmech!

Looking forward to more progress pics.
 

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As an aside, some might wonder what the little gizmo is hanging off the left side of the engines in the photo above. The gizmo is the high pressure fuel turbopump "HPFTP" for short.

When the engine is running at rated thrust, the HPFTP delivers approximately 17,000 gallons per minute of Liquid Hydrogen at 4,400 PSI while operating in excess of 35,000 RPM.

75,000 horsepower, provided by the HPFTP's own power turbine, is consumed in the process.

At approximately 3' long, the HPFTP weighs a scant 775 lbs, 300-odd pounds less than a Cummins 5.9 Diesel. As of 1990, it was the highest specific power output rotating device built by man.

http://www.enginehistory.org/SSME/SSME4_2.pdf

Made right down the street and remember when they used to test Saturn engines on the dyno!

Steve
 

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Aerol was once a division of Lockheed. Their casters are mostly found on aircraft / aerospace related ground service equipment, such as the carts for the Space Shuttle's engines:...

No, I should be able to roll it by myself. Good casters make a world of difference in rolling resistance.

I thought about of sending you a couple of twelve year old boys and a case of "Jolt" Cola (all the sugar and twice the caffeine) to move that workbench but if you really don't think you need them.... :evil:


All kidding aside. It sounds like this is going to be another awesome project.
 
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Made right down the street and remember when they used to test Saturn engines on the dyno!

Steve

That must have been quite a sight / sound! Especially when things didn't go right. :D

mdbeck said:
I thought about of sending you a couple of twelve year old boys and a case of "Jolt" Cola (all the sugar and twice the caffeine) to move that workbench but if you really don't think you need them....

Oh good god no! :willy_nil

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I must say that is one impressive bottle rack. I believe in over building but this takes that to a whole new level.

Thanks. :)
 
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