My mouse poison is gone!

[Hobby_Man22]

I placed some of the mouse biscuit things in a couple places in the shop. Took a look at them today and they were gone! You mean those tiny little field mice can walk off with those things? I broke them apart into smaller 1"x1" squares, maybe I should have put the whole slab out?

 

[loganb]

Put out more, lots more until you stop seeing it disappearing

 

[larry_g]

I have used "just one bite" brand in the past and it recommends that just a small amount be out out at a time. If you put a large amount out the rodent can get sick from it and then pee in it so none of the others will touch it. I found that just putting out a small amount each day allowed me to check it each day and if gone replace it with some more. In a short while the poison stopped disappearing and the rodents were gone.

lg
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[ybnormal]

it was Mighty Mouse, or Speedy Gonzales, come to save the day!

 

[Hobby_Man22]

I have used "just one bite" brand in the past and it recommends that just a small amount be out out at a time. If you put a large amount out the rodent can get sick from it and then pee in it so none of the others will touch it. I found that just putting out a small amount each day allowed me to check it each day and if gone replace it with some more. In a short while the poison stopped disappearing and the rodents were gone.

lg
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That's the stuff I used. Normally I just put the whole waffle thing out and they nibble around the edges.

 

[rlitman]

I have used "just one bite" brand in the past and it recommends that just a small amount be out out at a time. If you put a large amount out the rodent can get sick from it and then pee in it so none of the others will touch it. I found that just putting out a small amount each day allowed me to check it each day and if gone replace it with some more. In a short while the poison stopped disappearing and the rodents were gone.

lg
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I use bar or block bait with a hole in it, and put it in a JT Eaton 902 bait station:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DLKGOYM?tag=atomicindus08-20

This suspends the bait above the station, so it can't get peed or rained on:

It also keeps rodents from running away with the blocks. As they nibble through the lowest block, the upper ones drop down the rod.

 

[jblnut]

I use bar or block bait with a hole in it, and put it in a JT Eaton 902 bait station:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DLKGOYM?tag=atomicindus08-20

This suspends the bait above the station, so it can't get peed or rained on:

It also keeps rodents from running away with the blocks. As they nibble through the lowest block, the upper ones drop down the rod.

A few years back I went to Home Depot and purchased a bunch of 1-1/2” pvc pipe and a bunch of Tee’s and caps and built I bet 50 of them. They work very well !! Check them once a month and fill them up. They’re all always low and were empty for a few months after I started doing it.

I also built a few larger ones that have flexible exhaust pipe on one end so I can stick them into a rat hole if I find one. We have all kinds of critters on the farm that need to be unalived and I’ve found a lot of good ideas here on GJ !

 

[Hobby_Man22]

I use bar or block bait with a hole in it, and put it in a JT Eaton 902 bait station:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DLKGOYM?tag=atomicindus08-20

This suspends the bait above the station, so it can't get peed or rained on:

It also keeps rodents from running away with the blocks. As they nibble through the lowest block, the upper ones drop down the rod.

I think it's a good thing they run away with it. I bet they bring it right back to the source so their other little mouse friends can enjoy.

 

[bb29510]

i like the peanut butter five gallon bucket method

 

[Pontiac787]

Use traps not poison. A mouse eats the poison and dies outside. A hawk, owl, fox, eats the dead mouse and gets poisoned as well. Not a good situation.

 

[Crazyjake8493]

Throw the rest of the poison away and buy some real traps. Mice eat the poison and then instead of dying on the trap where you can find them, they'll die somewhere in the corner or under equipment or in a spot where you won't find them until you smell them.

They're also terrible for other good animals because the poison carries through the food chain. And if you have any pet cats or dogs, say goodbye to them if they ever get into the mouse poison.

That stuff is terrible and I'm surprised they're still allowed to sell it.

 

[bluedog225]

Yep. Traps. I glue mine to a piece of hardie board so they rot on the board if I’m not up there for a while.

 

[rlitman]

A few years back I went to Home Depot and purchased a bunch of 1-1/2” pvc pipe and a bunch of Tee’s and caps and built I bet 50 of them. They work very well !! Check them once a month and fill them up. They’re all always low and were empty for a few months after I started doing it.

I also built a few larger ones that have flexible exhaust pipe on one end so I can stick them into a rat hole if I find one. We have all kinds of critters on the farm that need to be unalived and I’ve found a lot of good ideas here on GJ !

PVC works too. My frugal self bought a 10' stick of corrugated drain pipe, I cut it into 2' sections and put a piece of stainless welding rod straight across each end to limit the opening size to keep out non-targets. I then bent a rod into a shape that held the bait bar in the center of the tube, tied to one of the end rods. It worked pretty well for really cheap, but the bait got wet, and changing it required touching things I didn't want to touch.

The Eaton stations stand up on their own, don't get wet inside, easily strap to stuff, are child and pet proof, and allow me to add bait without touching anything (or adding my scent to it). And once you price out PVC tees, the commercial bait stations aren't unreasonable.

 

[isb cornbinder]

That was some fine shXt, man.

 

[Hobby_Man22]

That was some fine shXt, man.

He can laugh all he wants. He's the one with a tummy ache tonight.

 

[rancherbill]

It should be in proper container. Dogs and cats can get the stuff today, tomorrow or 6 months from now.

You will have unwanted kills. Ask any Vet.

 

[Hobby_Man22]

It should be in proper container. Dogs and cats can get the stuff today, tomorrow or 6 months from now.

You will have unwanted kills. Ask any Vet.

That's why I kept it in the shop, but I didn't know they could just walk out the front door with it. I guess I'll get a peice of plywood and stick it on a nail.

 

[CraigStu]

I am w/ crazyjake...never poison. I worked in an auto dealer shop that had a shed roof off one side that management decided to close in to give us a workroom off the main shop. Worked great for about a year until the smell started. Someone walked in and said dead rats. The dumpsters were just outside and there had been a rat problem that someone decided to fix w/ poison. Well whoever closed in the room didn't perfectly seal around the floor (2x6s on edge on top of the macadam covered by thick osb flooring). So, when the rats started feeling bad, they crawled under the floor and died there. Animal control came in and peeled up some of the osb. They carried 6 dead rats out in heavy plastic bags. They had to get one of those electronic odor machines for a week to get rid of the smell. When I get mice, I buy a 6-pack of plain old mouse traps, put them out w/ cheese or peanut butter. When I catch a mouse I throw the trap and the mouse in the trash. If I run out of traps another 6-pack isn't too much $.
BTW, same thing w/ cars. Never, never poison. I once had to pull the dash out of a car to get to the ducting from the heater box up to the defroster vents. You ever pull a dead and dried out mama mouse w/ her 4 babies out of a defrost duct? It cost the owner $1250 of labor to learn not to use poison.

 

[Chaznsc]

Use traps not poison. A mouse eats the poison and dies outside. A hawk, owl, fox, eats the dead mouse and gets poisoned as well. Not a good situation.

Or, like I had happen once, died in the heating duct insulation. Talk about stink, warm mouse rotting. I did get lucky and find the little twerp; soft and mushy he was

 

[bob15]

 

[vwpieces]

I smell a Rat

 

[Meursault74]

I didn't think about poisoning other animals. I didn't use poison because I didn't want them to go somewhere and die and stink up the place.
I'm currently using rat traps, the kind that snap down.

I had built a trap door system on a 20-30 gallon trash can filled with water to trap rats. I baited it with peanut butter. My engineering design with counter-balance worked perfectly. It just didn't get a rat. Drowned a nice big squirrel in there. He was well swollen when I found him. Had to scoop him out and dump the water. Not fun. I stopped using my contraption.

The snap traps, I tie them on a string. When I get one caught, I cut the string, put the body and trap together in a bag , tie it up and put it in the trash. I saw one as it was trapped. Took a couple of minutes before it stopped flopping around.

 

[pattenp]

There are poison products for rodents that are not transferred by the consumption of the controlled rodent by another animal.

 

[Firebrick43]

I helped a neighbor do some needed maintenance on his miata including changing the timing belts.

When I pulled the air box there was something rattling inside. The bottom portion of the air box was completely filled with uneaten 1" square tomcat bait. He thought he had a serious mouse problem as it had all disappeared in one night but he had a seriously industrious mouse that was saving it for another day apparently.

He stopped baiting them after that and switched to a bucket trap

 

[bob15]

There are poison products for rodents that are not transferred by the consumption of the controlled rodent by another animal.

Not being argumentative, but what brand? And how would it work? How would it kill a mouse and not the animal that eats the mouse?

 

[P0234]

I like sticky traps. Put a single goldfish kids cracker in the middle. They seem to like them. Bonus is the traps usually move to where you can see you caught one. On the downside you occasionally have to help one pass to the other side a little more quickly.

 

[Firebrick43]

Not being argumentative, but what brand? And how would it work? How would it kill a mouse and not the animal that eats the mouse?

Mouse “poison” that are anticoagulant such as chlorophacinone, brodifacoum, bromadiolone, difenacoum, difethialone, diphacinone and warfarin is highly unlikely to kill a pet or larger mammal if it eats a dead mouse killed by it.

The dose to kill a mouse is insignificant to a pet. These are blood thinners and some such as warfarin are even proscribed to people.

Vitamin K1 can be given as an antidote and is effective.

The danger with these poisons is if the pet or other larger mammals get to the bait is set out and ingested directly in larger amounts which is why good bait stations are important even with these products.

Other poisons shut down kidneys and can be easily passed up the food chain and antidotes are not very effective.

Best is just not to put any thing out and use traps.

 

[rancherbill]

That's why I kept it in the shop, but I didn't know they could just walk out the front door with it. I guess I'll get a peice of plywood and stick it on a nail.

Better, but a dog cat or kid could still eat a piece after the mice have eaten enough for it to fall off the nail.

I use this kind. It secure from cats dogs and KIDS.

 

[rancherbill]

The comments about Vitamin K are correct for some products, but, when your dog gets really sick and you take it to the vet and they give the dog Vitamin K and you a bill for $700, then you start enclosing the bait. Ask my brother-in-law when their dog got poisoned. He'd put bait in his classic car to get the mice. The dog survived.

 

[ycgoat]

Traps have not worked for me to get rid of the infestation, poison has. I do use pipes if I put poison down low where the dogs can get to them.

 

[NORTON'S SHOP]

Not being argumentative, but what brand? And how would it work? How would it kill a mouse and not the animal that eats the mouse?

Kinda like the pesticides and herbicides sprayed all over the food we eat isn't killing us either? And don't give me the washing before you eat it **** takes care of it.

 

[bob15]

Kinda like the pesticides and herbicides sprayed all over the food we eat isn't killing us either? And don't give me the washing before you eat it **** takes care of it.

So what is your point?

 

[NORTON'S SHOP]

So what is your point?

You're worried about killing other animals with poison?

 

[duneslider]

I like traps and sticky pads cause I like KNOWING I got the little suckers.

My inlaws golden retriever died from what the vet believes was poisoning. They assume a neighbor had poison scattered around their property. I have never used the poison for the main reason I want to know I got them.

 

[Hobby_Man22]

I like traps and sticky pads cause I like KNOWING I got the little suckers.

My inlaws golden retriever died from what the vet believes was poisoning. They assume a neighbor had poison scattered around their property. I have never used the poison for the main reason I want to know I got them.

I usually find a dead mouse around the shop about a week or two later. I'm going to work on sealing up all the little cracks and openings. I didn't know they could squeeze through a tiny 1/4" opening

 

[pattenp]

Not being argumentative, but what brand? And how would it work? How would it kill a mouse and not the animal that eats the mouse?

You have Google at your fingertips.

 

[LeonardY]

I use electric shock trap indoors. Then I just dump the dead mouse or rat out in the trash.

One of the techniques I was taught is to bait snap traps but not set them. Let the rodents take the bait and get comfortable with the trap. Once you see the bait disappearing. Bait and set the traps. You'll take out entire groups that way.

 

[bob15]

You're worried about killing other animals with poison?

Yup. No need to kill an owl or a hawk or even a **** by them ingesting rat/mouse poison even via a poisoned rodent. Use a trap.

https://now.tufts.edu/2020/09/16/understanding-risks-rodent-poisons-birds-prey

 

[bob15]

You have Google at your fingertips.

So you cannot post a link or two or three yourself?

 

[pattenp]

So you cannot post a link or two or three yourself?

Seriously, you can't research it? I got to do it for you.