csp
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Do you have running water yet? Fixed the leaky roof?
How about the other missing basic necessities that you've shared in other threads that have gone the same exact direction that this one is going?
My Organization Thread
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Do you have running water yet? Fixed the leaky roof?
How about the other missing basic necessities that you've shared in other threads that have gone the same exact direction that this one is going?
DFB
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Bill I don't know what to say...
Is this progress or what?
My Boss at the greenhouse biz always buys lots of stuff (and mostly second hand squawks about buying new) so he often goes to auctions and dealers of used equipment. When we were doing our new commercial store front and kitchen area to make apple cider donuts I had went out of my way to make everything as nice as possible and then he buys all dirty old used stuff a free standing 3 door soda cooler that didn't run right (had to pay for repairs there) wouldn't cool down and leaked water. A stainless steel table that was all rust underneath the top and down legs, a total POS shelving unit that eventually just scrapped, a plexi glass table top pastry display that was cracked, a wood counter that was so tall (like chest high) that no one could even put their purchase goods on it so I had to cut the frame down and rebuild it lower. And as much work as building one new just about.
Then he says "wow did I get good deals or WHAT!"
Is this progress or what?
My Boss at the greenhouse biz always buys lots of stuff (and mostly second hand squawks about buying new) so he often goes to auctions and dealers of used equipment. When we were doing our new commercial store front and kitchen area to make apple cider donuts I had went out of my way to make everything as nice as possible and then he buys all dirty old used stuff a free standing 3 door soda cooler that didn't run right (had to pay for repairs there) wouldn't cool down and leaked water. A stainless steel table that was all rust underneath the top and down legs, a total POS shelving unit that eventually just scrapped, a plexi glass table top pastry display that was cracked, a wood counter that was so tall (like chest high) that no one could even put their purchase goods on it so I had to cut the frame down and rebuild it lower. And as much work as building one new just about.
Then he says "wow did I get good deals or WHAT!"
Bill I don't know what to say...
Is this progress or what?
My Boss at the greenhouse biz always buys lots of stuff (and mostly second hand squawks about buying new) so he often goes to auctions and dealers of used equipment. When we were doing our new commercial store front and kitchen area to make apple cider donuts I had went out of my way to make everything as nice as possible and then he buys all dirty old used stuff a free standing 3 door soda cooler that didn't run right (had to pay for repairs there) wouldn't cool down and leaked water. A stainless steel table that was all rust underneath the top and down legs, a total POS shelving unit that eventually just scrapped, a plexi glass table top pastry display that was cracked, a wood counter that was so tall (like chest high) that no one could even put their purchase goods on it so I had to cut the frame down and rebuild it lower. And as much work as building one new just about.
Then he says "wow did I get good deals or WHAT!"
Hey, I resemble that remark.
Got a good deal on our Astro Van, until I realized it needed total brakes all around, front tires, all the front end steering and suspension parts and a tune up.
I've had my share of purchase mistakes, including a compressor that needs a rebuild that would cost more than it's worth.
But you trudge on.
One thing I will keep saying, is that the right tools make the job.
Not that you don't also need to know how to use them, but trying to do things with inadequate tools is just horrible, and sometimes impossible.
Some say to just rent them.
I LOVE having them. Don't have to wait for a kit to be available, or getting one that's abused or missing parts. Don't have money ******* and waiting to get it back.
I'm also amazed at the number and variety of tools needed for even simple jobs, like drum brakes. Good to have everything I need.
Bill
DFB
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All very good points Bill...
Plus it really pisses off your friends that you got most everything in the way of tools
And don't often use them
Plus it really pisses off your friends that you got most everything in the way of tools
And don't often use them
ScottsGT
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Yea, but we have room to store them.
I'll admit, I like buying tools. But a ball joint press that takes up half a drawer or more in a tool chest? And I'll only use it once or twice in 10 years? Pffftt...rent that *******!
I will usually rent a tool once or twice. If I have to go back a third time, it's mine. At that point I'm wasting time back and fourth to the auto parts store. Ex: Power Steering pump pulley puller and installer. I think on the third rental I asked the guy if his feelings would be hurt if it never came back. He told me to hold on a minute, and brought out a new one for me to "rent"
I did get stuck buying a 3/4" drive torque wrench from HF just to prove a point to an aftermarket vendor of Mustang performance parts. Their tech told me I was having issues because I used my IR Impact gun to tighten down chassis bolt and not the exact spec of 175 or 225 ft lbs. My 1/2 was too low. I proved my point and now I have a huge *** torque wrench in the top of my box. Might give it to my son if he becomes a pro wrench turner.
I'll admit, I like buying tools. But a ball joint press that takes up half a drawer or more in a tool chest? And I'll only use it once or twice in 10 years? Pffftt...rent that *******!
I will usually rent a tool once or twice. If I have to go back a third time, it's mine. At that point I'm wasting time back and fourth to the auto parts store. Ex: Power Steering pump pulley puller and installer. I think on the third rental I asked the guy if his feelings would be hurt if it never came back. He told me to hold on a minute, and brought out a new one for me to "rent"
I did get stuck buying a 3/4" drive torque wrench from HF just to prove a point to an aftermarket vendor of Mustang performance parts. Their tech told me I was having issues because I used my IR Impact gun to tighten down chassis bolt and not the exact spec of 175 or 225 ft lbs. My 1/2 was too low. I proved my point and now I have a huge *** torque wrench in the top of my box. Might give it to my son if he becomes a pro wrench turner.
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Yea, but we have room to store them.
I'll admit, I like buying tools. But a ball joint press that takes up half a drawer or more in a tool chest? And I'll only use it once or twice in 10 years? Pffftt...rent that *******!
I will usually rent a tool once or twice. If I have to go back a third time, it's mine. At that point I'm wasting time back and fourth to the auto parts store. Ex: Power Steering pump pulley puller and installer. I think on the third rental I asked the guy if his feelings would be hurt if it never came back. He told me to hold on a minute, and brought out a new one for me to "rent"
I did get stuck buying a 3/4" drive torque wrench from HF just to prove a point to an aftermarket vendor of Mustang performance parts. Their tech told me I was having issues because I used my IR Impact gun to tighten down chassis bolt and not the exact spec of 175 or 225 ft lbs. My 1/2 was too low. I proved my point and now I have a huge *** torque wrench in the top of my box. Might give it to my son if he becomes a pro wrench turner.
You do know what I got out of your entire post.......don't you?
"WOW! HF sells a 3/4" Torque Wrench??? I've got to put that and a set of 3/4" sockets and ratchet on my list!!!"
I might be just kidding........or not! I do have military trailers.
Bill
ScottsGT
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Damn Bill, you're easy!!
I work with a hoarder. No kidding his office is 10' X 14'. He has a very narrow path to his desk chair and all around is magazines and old **** piled up. We expect to hear an avalanche in his office any day now.
Sometimes for shits and giggles we'll dig something up, put it out in the shop and yell out we're about to toss this XXXX out. If anyone wants it, come get it. It's fun watching him run out of his hoard cave to ****** up the next piece of **** that will be part of his demise.
When I took over the shop we had an old file cabinet slam full of old tech manuals for gear we haven't owned in over 20 years. I hauled it all off with the directors permission.
When Hoarder came back to work after vacation, he was beet red with anger and didn't speak to me for 6 weeks.
I work with a hoarder. No kidding his office is 10' X 14'. He has a very narrow path to his desk chair and all around is magazines and old **** piled up. We expect to hear an avalanche in his office any day now.
Sometimes for shits and giggles we'll dig something up, put it out in the shop and yell out we're about to toss this XXXX out. If anyone wants it, come get it. It's fun watching him run out of his hoard cave to ****** up the next piece of **** that will be part of his demise.
When I took over the shop we had an old file cabinet slam full of old tech manuals for gear we haven't owned in over 20 years. I hauled it all off with the directors permission.
When Hoarder came back to work after vacation, he was beet red with anger and didn't speak to me for 6 weeks.
DFB
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Oh definitely Bill you HAVE to get the BIG STUFF 3/4 drive stuff ratchets, breaker bar, sockets and maybe even impacts too. AND wrenches to like up to 2 inch and 50mm for you know...like just in case! 
That's kind of funny in a way on my flea mkt tool tables I have a few larger items, Carry a 3/4" drive set along with long 2 ft breaker bars, them big tekton 16 inch groove joint pliers, baby sledge hammers, drilling hammers, 18 pipe wrenches and people just gravitate to that big stuff. One older fella and lets just say waaay older than me hefted that small sledge hammer (needing both hands) and I asked him "What are gonna do with that? He looked at that big hammer in his hands, then looked back at me and said "nothing", I said "that's right now put it back on the table before you hurt yourself".
If I got a dollar for everytime someone fondled that 3/4" drive socket set before it sold I would have made even more money.
Same goes with the tow hitch tri balls with all 3 sizes including 2 5/16"
Even though they have just one trailer and only need one size ball (mostly 2") they all gotta have one.
You know...just in case!
Cant hardly wait till I see all the reactions to the new trailer hitch I got.
Yup the one with the big tow hook on the 4th side.
That's kind of funny in a way on my flea mkt tool tables I have a few larger items, Carry a 3/4" drive set along with long 2 ft breaker bars, them big tekton 16 inch groove joint pliers, baby sledge hammers, drilling hammers, 18 pipe wrenches and people just gravitate to that big stuff. One older fella and lets just say waaay older than me
hefted that small sledge hammer (needing both hands) and I asked him "What are gonna do with that? He looked at that big hammer in his hands, then looked back at me and said "nothing", I said "that's right now put it back on the table before you hurt yourself". If I got a dollar for everytime someone fondled that 3/4" drive socket set before it sold I would have made even more money.
Same goes with the tow hitch tri balls with all 3 sizes including 2 5/16"
Even though they have just one trailer and only need one size ball (mostly 2") they all gotta have one.
You know...just in case!
Cant hardly wait till I see all the reactions to the new trailer hitch I got.
Yup the one with the big tow hook on the 4th side.
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verbalkint99
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Bill, this reminds me of cleaning out my grandfathers garage. Where are you in the Detroit area? I am in the metro area and can help out, in the sense that I am looking for a decent bench grinder and woodworking tools...lol Pay no nevermind to the critics! Good luck!
Hey!
We'll have to meetup sometime! PM me when you're near the NE part of Detroit. I'm just east of Kelly Road and south of Morang.
Today, because I had just barely enough of the right tools, I was able to disassemble my steering components on the 2002Astro Van.
Took off everything from the Pitman arm to the outer tie rods and including the idler arms.
The removed parts:
Had to go to 4 stores to get the grease I wanted. Greased all the new parts.
Wire wheeled and painted the relay rod, which will be reused as it has no wear points.
Relay rod (In the background) before:
After:
Just finished greasing all the new parts and painting them with rust preventative paint.
New parts:
What would you guys coat exposed threads on the tie rods with? Fluid film?
Will assemble in the morning and take for an alignment.
A couple of tools that would have made it easier will go on the list. But this is another example of having the tools, and knowing where they are, that gets the job done. Took me about 4 hours cause I'm slow and take breaks.
Bill
d.mcfarland
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Maybe its a generational thing.
Overdoing things that don't need overdone.
Why paint the parts? They will be the ones on the vehicle when you take the Astro to the junkyard or DMV.
Having 3 different glove thicknesses...
Bill I'm all for you succeeding in your venture, but this isn't much of an organization thread when you just keep buying. That's more of an accumulation thread.
Overdoing things that don't need overdone.
Why paint the parts? They will be the ones on the vehicle when you take the Astro to the junkyard or DMV.
Having 3 different glove thicknesses...
Bill I'm all for you succeeding in your venture, but this isn't much of an organization thread when you just keep buying. That's more of an accumulation thread.
matt_i
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I wouldn't lube the taper, it needs to "stick" metal to metal. Clean with brake cleaner should be good enough. I would personally coat the threads of the tie rod adjusters with copper based anti-seize.
Fluid-film the entire underbody.
Fluid-film the entire underbody.
Hey!
We'll have to meetup sometime! PM me when you're near the NE part of Detroit. I'm just east of Kelly Road and south of Morang.
Today, because I had just barely enough of the right tools, I was able to disassemble my steering components on the 2002Astro Van.
Took off everything from the Pitman arm to the outer tie rods and including the idler arms.
The removed parts:
Had to go to 4 stores to get the grease I wanted. Greased all the new parts.
Wire wheeled and painted the relay rod, which will be reused as it has no wear points.
Relay rod (In the background) before:
After:
Just finished greasing all the new parts and painting them with rust preventative paint.
New parts:
What would you guys coat exposed threads on the tie rods with? Fluid film?
Will assemble in the morning and take for an alignment.
A couple of tools that would have made it easier will go on the list. But this is another example of having the tools, and knowing where they are, that gets the job done. Took me about 4 hours cause I'm slow and take breaks.
Bill
Here's "The rest of the story" (Paul Harvey).
Finished up the front end by 2PM today and took the van to Belle Tire for an alignment. $70. Took them a while to do because caster and camber are a ***** on these.
Here's what the passenger side looks like:
Here are the results of the alignment:
It sure has stiffer steering. Hopefully the tires won't wear like the ones that were on it. We'll see if it bumps along on the expressway at 60 like it used to.
And to answer the question about why I did so much. First, I'm a little OCD. I like things done just so. Second, the front end items that weren't totally ruined, were probably close to needing replacement. Replacing them all means a totally fresh start. All MOOG. It also made it easier to align.
As to the tools required? I will take a photo. It took a lot. 4 different socket sizes. I still need to put them away, so they will be where I expect next time.
Tomorrow is an oil change. Then maybe check the rear end fluid and finish the tune up. I love having the tools, the organization and the knowledge!!!
Bill
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Put all the tools back away exactly where they go. It's one of the biggest secrets to organization for me.
So didn't have time to photo. But here's a list to show how extensive the quantity for this job.
Parts:
Left and right idler arms
drag link
2 each of inner and outer tie rod ends
2 each of tie rod adjusters
Clean up and reuse relay rod.
Tools:
Mfg. service manual
Youtube
GJ
Rolling stool
Creeper
Heavy hammer
Pancake compressor and air hose
100' extension cord
Jack stands
Jack and chunk of 4x4
Wheel chock
Impact hammer and fork
1/2" impact gun and 3 sizes of sockets
1/2" wobble impact extensions
1/2" impact extensions
3/8" torque wrench
1/2" torque wrench
1/4" ratchet
Ratcheting breaker bar
Flip socket set
2 flat screwdrivers
Pliers
Paper towels
Copper anti-seize
9 mil nitrile gloves
Black work gloves
Brake cleaner
Red rag
Wire wheel on drill
Tap and die for bolts and holes
Blue thread locker
Black anti-rust paint
Some 1/4" and 3/8" sockets
Die grinder and Rolock discs.
So you see, it pays to have everything and stay organized!
Bill
So didn't have time to photo. But here's a list to show how extensive the quantity for this job.
Parts:
Left and right idler arms
drag link
2 each of inner and outer tie rod ends
2 each of tie rod adjusters
Clean up and reuse relay rod.
Tools:
Mfg. service manual
Youtube
GJ
Rolling stool
Creeper
Heavy hammer
Pancake compressor and air hose
100' extension cord
Jack stands
Jack and chunk of 4x4
Wheel chock
Impact hammer and fork
1/2" impact gun and 3 sizes of sockets
1/2" wobble impact extensions
1/2" impact extensions
3/8" torque wrench
1/2" torque wrench
1/4" ratchet
Ratcheting breaker bar
Flip socket set
2 flat screwdrivers
Pliers
Paper towels
Copper anti-seize
9 mil nitrile gloves
Black work gloves
Brake cleaner
Red rag
Wire wheel on drill
Tap and die for bolts and holes
Blue thread locker
Black anti-rust paint
Some 1/4" and 3/8" sockets
Die grinder and Rolock discs.
So you see, it pays to have everything and stay organized!
Bill
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Of course you do
Originally bought 5, because they were cheap, and had a coupon.
Found they were too thin.
Tried 7, based on another GJ member's recommendation. They work good, but wanted something tougher too. Thus the 9's.
5's will probably never get used. That's OK.
Still use HF utility gloves at $2 for a lot of things daily.
I don't think I have too many tools. Just a good basic start for automotive, and a smattering of home maintenance and construction, gardening and yard maintenance.
Wait until I get into painting, electronics, smithing, foundry work, woodcarving etc.
Bill
Nighttrain
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Bill,
I have to say I think this (frontend) is the first project I have seen you complete. Great job! Now complete another one that may not require a tons of new tools. I do see progress in one of the garage photos, still 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb bag but at least no garbage. I do see romex wire hanging from the back wall, please make sure your wiring is safe and not going to burn down your house. Now that it is summer how about getting that roof fixed.
I have to say I think this (frontend) is the first project I have seen you complete. Great job! Now complete another one that may not require a tons of new tools. I do see progress in one of the garage photos, still 10 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb bag but at least no garbage. I do see romex wire hanging from the back wall, please make sure your wiring is safe and not going to burn down your house. Now that it is summer how about getting that roof fixed.
There have been other projects on this and other vehicles, like drum brakes, rotor hubs and wheel bearings, brake lines and cylinders, coils etc.
The Romex is not connected to any power. Just hanging there.
Roof is high on the list, but we're getting ready to go camping. Yes I know, it would be my priority, but a hen rules this roost.
Today is an oil change, tuneup and fix an interior rattle that bothers the wife.
Bill
ScottsGT
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Bill, we're just alike on that front end job. I pucker up when I see guys re-install parts and not clean them up first. I can understand if they are doing the job and being paid by the hour and the customer doesn't care. But if I'm working on my own cars, any associated parts gets the detail treatment.
Didn't get to oil change. Assembled bike carrier. Removed spare Bridgeport ram from garage. Removed bar folder. Staged spare Bridgeport head for removal and 11 steel panels for ACRO bins.
Installed seat pads in 2 new kayaks and removed them from the garage/shop.
Planted tomato and pepper plants.
Did a bunch of sorting, clearing and organizing in the garage. No photos yet.
Bill
Installed seat pads in 2 new kayaks and removed them from the garage/shop.
Planted tomato and pepper plants.
Did a bunch of sorting, clearing and organizing in the garage. No photos yet.
Bill
DFB
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Getting a little late to start a garden there Bill
Finally got around to labeling the drawers in my file cabinet, so I don't have to open EVERY drawer, every time I look for something! Temporary hand written masking tape. Will do the roller and service cart too. Need to get everything to settle in it's permanent spot, so I can get used to where things will be.
Lots more to sort, organize, put away or remove. Someone said there was still twice as much stuff in there, as should be. Boy were they right.
Removing every item that won't be used and almost every item that needs repair. Hard to decide which working item goes, simply because there isn't space for everything. Removed or removing blast cabinet and filter, Bridgeport ram and head, arbor press and base, extra barrel trash can, non working vertical compressor,HF bender, office chair, 11 Acro bin steel wall panels, 3 extra Kennedy boxes, Emmert vise, 4 horizontal compressors, 5 vises, 4 or more bench grinders. bar folder, camelback drill press, benchtop frill press, all woodworking, plumbing and electrical items and maybe the parts washer.
Keeping 2 Stronghold cabinets, 3 Snap-on wall cabinets, file cabinet, 2 Kennedy boxes, 2 vises, disc sander, belt sander, pancake compressor, misc grinders, Bridgeport, bench top, 44" HF roller, HF 5 drawer service cart, sensitive drill press, horizontal band saw, 2 stools, 3 welders, lathe and vertical compressor.
Photos this evening.
Bill
Lots more to sort, organize, put away or remove. Someone said there was still twice as much stuff in there, as should be. Boy were they right.
Removing every item that won't be used and almost every item that needs repair. Hard to decide which working item goes, simply because there isn't space for everything. Removed or removing blast cabinet and filter, Bridgeport ram and head, arbor press and base, extra barrel trash can, non working vertical compressor,HF bender, office chair, 11 Acro bin steel wall panels, 3 extra Kennedy boxes, Emmert vise, 4 horizontal compressors, 5 vises, 4 or more bench grinders. bar folder, camelback drill press, benchtop frill press, all woodworking, plumbing and electrical items and maybe the parts washer.
Keeping 2 Stronghold cabinets, 3 Snap-on wall cabinets, file cabinet, 2 Kennedy boxes, 2 vises, disc sander, belt sander, pancake compressor, misc grinders, Bridgeport, bench top, 44" HF roller, HF 5 drawer service cart, sensitive drill press, horizontal band saw, 2 stools, 3 welders, lathe and vertical compressor.
Photos this evening.
Bill
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joseywales
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Here's my advice, before my rant. You will regret selling or trashing something, that's just how it goes. You won't always make the right decision. In that regard, it might help if you give some equipment/supplies to a young person starting out. I tell you, when you are having regrets of letting the items go, the satisfaction of helping someone will feel better than cash in your pocket. You'll always feel like you didn't get enough cash for what you sold, but what price can you put on helping a newbie get into hobbies that you've enjoyed for so may years.
When my father passed, his garage was hardly better than this. A true jack of all trades, he had everything and what's worse he was master of crude storage solutions, there was barely a path that weaved through the stacks of tools, boxes, etc. We're talking about a guy who nearly single handedly moved a 1,500 pound safe from the garage, down into the basement. His home was a split level, so the floor of the garage was at the middle height of the basement wall. First order, cut a hole in the garage wall, to gain access to the basement. Then install a half door there, hook a winch up to the garage joist, and...you get the idea.
Anyway, we filled 3 large tractor trailer sized dumpsters from that house. And that doesn't include what we gave to goodwill, the shed full of wood that we gave away, etc. The man the largest collection of 12oz Skippy peanut butter containers you could imagine. This man threw nickels around like manhole covers, yet he wasted money buying the smaller Skippy, so he could get the containers and fill them with screws/nuts/bolts.
We took what we felt we'd use, but had an auction house clean out the rest. You'd cringe and think they stole it, but the truth is it was more work/time than they bargained for and I doubt they made the profit they anticipated. The deal was they pay us, but take EVERYTHING that was left. The basement rafters were filled with stock and that's after a scrapper made two trips to clear out the garage. They simply stopped coming back.
I have some of the affliction, as evidenced by my tiny collection of Skippy containers What can I say, I absolutely like clear containers, But, I try to manage it. Like my dad, you probably have the skills to make use of every tool and piece of scrap you can find. Still, that doesn't mean you need to keep it. The trick is deciding what you absolutely could never acquire again and if you truly need it, keep it. I get random times to work on things, so running to Home Depot for screws, etc., is a PITA. My brother's kids are grown, so he has more time for that and says he's not going to be HD's warehouse. I get it, but we're in different stages of life right now.
When my father passed, his garage was hardly better than this. A true jack of all trades, he had everything and what's worse he was master of crude storage solutions, there was barely a path that weaved through the stacks of tools, boxes, etc. We're talking about a guy who nearly single handedly moved a 1,500 pound safe from the garage, down into the basement. His home was a split level, so the floor of the garage was at the middle height of the basement wall. First order, cut a hole in the garage wall, to gain access to the basement. Then install a half door there, hook a winch up to the garage joist, and...you get the idea.
Anyway, we filled 3 large tractor trailer sized dumpsters from that house. And that doesn't include what we gave to goodwill, the shed full of wood that we gave away, etc. The man the largest collection of 12oz Skippy peanut butter containers you could imagine. This man threw nickels around like manhole covers, yet he wasted money buying the smaller Skippy, so he could get the containers and fill them with screws/nuts/bolts.
We took what we felt we'd use, but had an auction house clean out the rest. You'd cringe and think they stole it, but the truth is it was more work/time than they bargained for and I doubt they made the profit they anticipated. The deal was they pay us, but take EVERYTHING that was left. The basement rafters were filled with stock and that's after a scrapper made two trips to clear out the garage. They simply stopped coming back.
I have some of the affliction, as evidenced by my tiny collection of Skippy containers
What can I say, I absolutely like clear containers, But, I try to manage it. Like my dad, you probably have the skills to make use of every tool and piece of scrap you can find. Still, that doesn't mean you need to keep it. The trick is deciding what you absolutely could never acquire again and if you truly need it, keep it. I get random times to work on things, so running to Home Depot for screws, etc., is a PITA. My brother's kids are grown, so he has more time for that and says he's not going to be HD's warehouse. I get it, but we're in different stages of life right now.Get professional help or, failing that, go here:
http://hoardingcleanup.com/message_board
It's the only way you're going to get truly organized instead of re-arranging deck-chairs on the Titanic.
My $.02
http://hoardingcleanup.com/message_board
It's the only way you're going to get truly organized instead of re-arranging deck-chairs on the Titanic.
My $.02
joseywales
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You know, thinking about this now. My dad sold his silver coins and was in the process of selling his entire gun collection , but when I talked with his neighbor he told me this: my dad had a lot of scrap metal, but couldn't come to an agreement with any vendor on how much it was worth. In fact, his neighbor offered several times to help my dad take the scrap to the scrap yard, have it weighted and get paid, just so he knew he wasn't getting ripped off. The neighbor wanted nothing, just to help. My dad couldn't do it. S
So, he could sell off the truly valuable items, but not the scrap items. My guess that those were his "security items". UpstateNY might have a point here. At least try my suggestion above and give some items to a newbie. See if that doesn't help a bit.
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The last 3 posts are trying to be helpful, I know, but are a little late.
I'm well into the processes described, and doing well with them.
Organization IS a process that involves focusing on what you really want to accomplish.
That doesn't mean that every thing you own must be used immediately, or given up.
It does mean that you have enough control over your belongings, that they are a benefit, rather than a hindrance.
The process for me, is to identify my goals, prioritize them, and then work to attain them.
That means some things will be disposed of, some will be organized so they can be used, and some will need to be acquired.
In the tools I have, there are some that are duplicates that I will give to relatives. There are some duplicates I will keep just because I like them. Parker vises are an example. I will say that the vast majority of what I have, is here for a purpose, and will stay. Most are usable as they are, and some need rehab.
Like many here on the forum, I am now in a continual process of improving the facilities and the available tools. While at the same time, using those tools to do projects.
I'm making progress every day. And enjoying it.
Bill
I'm well into the processes described, and doing well with them.
Organization IS a process that involves focusing on what you really want to accomplish.
That doesn't mean that every thing you own must be used immediately, or given up.
It does mean that you have enough control over your belongings, that they are a benefit, rather than a hindrance.
The process for me, is to identify my goals, prioritize them, and then work to attain them.
That means some things will be disposed of, some will be organized so they can be used, and some will need to be acquired.
In the tools I have, there are some that are duplicates that I will give to relatives. There are some duplicates I will keep just because I like them. Parker vises are an example. I will say that the vast majority of what I have, is here for a purpose, and will stay. Most are usable as they are, and some need rehab.
Like many here on the forum, I am now in a continual process of improving the facilities and the available tools. While at the same time, using those tools to do projects.
I'm making progress every day. And enjoying it.
Bill
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njc41980
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This is a very good thought.
Clearly, the function for this space(s) will be defined by the OP so as to support the 100 % retention of all of the hoarded items. Each item will be defined and defended as essential to the stated function. "Disposal" really means moving items to tarps / temp structures external to the main garage. In the end nothing will leave the premises, but more will be acquired, and those newly acquired items will find there way into the "organized" space. Then it will be time to organize yet again.
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Having the right tools, and having them organized pays off.
A guy riding a quad had it quit right in front of the house.
Strolled out and asked if it was gas or spark. He said electric, and showed me where the negative cable broke off at the lug.
A few minutes with a utility knife, wrench and a jump pack and he was off to the races.
Knew just where they were, and put them right back when finished.
There are 2 functions for this space. Support for vehicle maintenance, and more importantly, dicking around with metal.
Bill
A guy riding a quad had it quit right in front of the house.
Strolled out and asked if it was gas or spark. He said electric, and showed me where the negative cable broke off at the lug.
A few minutes with a utility knife, wrench and a jump pack and he was off to the races.
Knew just where they were, and put them right back when finished.
There are 2 functions for this space. Support for vehicle maintenance, and more importantly, dicking around with metal.
Bill
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lewis26
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Organization doesn't mean keeping 8-9 bench grinders, 4-5+ air compressors, etc.
Organization doesn't mean just finding a new place for it.
Part of organization is getting rid of excess, which you have a lot of, and don't want to get rid of due to some unknown future use. You buy things you have no use for, and then get upset when people recommend you get rid of it, saying "I haven't even used it yet!" Then why the heck did you buy it?
You have a problem, and what you are doing is only extending that problem. Not to mention your wife, who can barely walk, buying kayaks that you are afraid to get rid of. You both need to get help and throw things away or sell them. Until you mentally get over the "I might need it at some point" it won't get better.
If you haven't touched it in 2 years or so, pitch it. All the random wheels, barrels, etc are just junk.
Organization doesn't mean just finding a new place for it.
Part of organization is getting rid of excess, which you have a lot of, and don't want to get rid of due to some unknown future use. You buy things you have no use for, and then get upset when people recommend you get rid of it, saying "I haven't even used it yet!" Then why the heck did you buy it?
You have a problem, and what you are doing is only extending that problem. Not to mention your wife, who can barely walk, buying kayaks that you are afraid to get rid of. You both need to get help and throw things away or sell them. Until you mentally get over the "I might need it at some point" it won't get better.
If you haven't touched it in 2 years or so, pitch it. All the random wheels, barrels, etc are just junk.