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My personal Rapidair experience

jmarkwolf

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I decided after watching numerous Youtube videos and reading accounts on this and other forums that I would install the Rapidair Maxline piping product in my 28ft x 30ft shop to compliment my new 40-gallon PUMA air compressor.

I'd been getting by with two separate compressors and dragging hoses wherever I needed them, which gets old. Plus one of the compressors was an old Craftsman 33-gallon oil-less type and it was just too damn loud. The other was a 30 year old 8-gallon Sanborn that had never been drained, and that fact concerned me after seeing Youtube videos of air compressors exploding due to internal rusting.

I was surprised at how stiff the 3/4in Maxline tubing was to uncurl. I had considered making the roller straightener tool to help straighten out the curl, but decided to buy one, and will likely sell it once I'm done using it. I'd seen that some guys just dragged the Maxline through lengths of PVC tube, but I elected to purchase the roller straightener.

In some of the videos I'd seen, the user would would clamp the roller straighter in the bench vise, but end up dragging the bench around while pulling the pipe through, if the bench was too light. In my case, my bench and vise were heavy enough, but the vise end of the bench was too close to the wall to straighten longer pieces of pipe. So I ended up bolting the straightener to a hitch mounted vise plate that I had lying around, and attaching it to the trailer hitch on my Jeep. I wont be dragging that around! See pic below.

The straightener works good for removing most of the curl of the pipe out of the box, but it doesn't really "straighten" the pipe very well, even after a couple run-throughs of the straightener. That takes a little extra persuasion. Once you get it "mostly" straight it's relatively easy to manually "adjust" it, and the wall clips are generally strong enough to hold it straight thereafter.

The thin wall aluminum pipe is polymer clad inside and out and is pretty stout as mentioned earlier, but can also be kind of flimsy, even under it's own weight, and will bend if you're not careful, sometimes requiring another run through on the straightener.

Apparently, it's important to cut the pipe ends as square as you can to avoid leaks, This can be a little tricky due to parallax error when squeezing the supplied cutters. I would sometimes have to make several cuts, an inch or so long, before getting nice square cuts. I hope the extra cuts of wasted pipe doesn't stack up to any significant loss of the 100ft of pipe they provide. I'm already running a little close on available pipe. I'm not cutting any drops until I know how much pipe I'll have left after running the perimeter of the room, at 110in from the floor, then cut the length of the drops accordingly.

The outer cladding of the pipe can be slippery when de-burring. I found it tiring to manually keep the pipe from spinning while deburring. I ended up pinching the pipe near the end with the bench vise, just enough to "assist" arresting the torque while using the supplied de-burring tool.

I also found that trying to hold longer lengths of pipe, while ascending and descending ladders, without introducing bends, and extended lengths of the tape measure, was a little tricky. My two go-to buddies that I typically rely on to help on such projects were both preoccupied, so I've been solo on this project.

So far the Rapidair kit is everything it claims to be.

As I progress, I'll update this thread.

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58Yeoman

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Well, I learned something today; I'd never seen a tubing straightener. My shop is 24x40, but I don't do the work I used to do before buying this place. I have my 60 gallon compressor in one rear corner with a 50' hose reel mounted above it. For the times I need air, I just unroll it. If I need more, I have another 25' or so rolled up by the compressor. But, that's just me. Good luck with your routing your piping.

I know what you mean about working by yourself. Before I retired, I was able to acquire many 48" x 52" osb, and I used this to cover the walls and ceiling in the shop. Standing on an 8' ladder, holding the sheet and screwing them in was fun.
 

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Well, I learned something today; I'd never seen a tubing straightener. My shop is 24x40, but I don't do the work I used to do before buying this place. I have my 60 gallon compressor in one rear corner with a 50' hose reel mounted above it.

I am in the same boat. I ran schedule 40 PVC before I found out about the dangers of it exploding.
I up graded to a larger compressor and put in a different location in my 24x38 shop, ripped out the PVC and bought a Horrible Freight 50 foot hose reel with intentions of adding air lines at a later date. Well it has been 20 years, my desire to putz in the shop is less, plus planning on moving in 3-4 years so it will never get done. I doubt the new place will have much for air lines either.
 

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Can you use a normal pipe cutter on Rapidair? Seems like that would make easy, square cuts every time.
 

Squirel

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I Just finished up my Maxline install. 200' of line and 9 drops. 3 of which are hose reels. I clamped the straightener to my miter saw station bench. It's heavy enough not to move and supported the coil as I pulled it through the wheels. I bought 3 of the 100' kits. I only used 200' of the line, but it was cheaper to buy the kit to get the three extra drops.

I loose about 10 psi overnight so the whole thing is pretty tight. I highly recommend mixing up some soapy water in a spray bottle and spraying the inside of the pipe for the deburring and assembly procedures. Makes it 100 times easier and then you can use the mixture to check for leaks too.
 

Dutch106

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I’ll be doing something similar when I pick up my 60 gallon compressor soon. I’ll be going with the 1/2 kit since the outlet on my air compressor is 1/2. What kind of shop do you have? Is it stick built or is it a prefab metal building. How will you be attaching the lines to the walls?
 

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I love the rapid air product did my entire 28x36 garage with it. I opted for a 3/4 loop around the ceiling then did 6- 1/2" drops around the walls and one down my lift. I did not purchase the straightener and didn't have a problem getting the pipe straight just unwound it carefully on the floor then some hand straightening before putting it up into the clips. I ended up with no leaks in the system but I made sure to properly ream each end and used both tape and dope on all of the Aluminum to stainless threaded connections for the port stations.
 

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Two tips: rotate the cutter slightly as you're making your cut and lube the threads of each fitting before tightening the collars.
 

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Two tips: rotate the cutter slightly as you're making your cut and lube the threads of each fitting before tightening the collars.

What did you lube them with? I've got a slight leak that needs to be addressed and I'd like to make sure I only have to do it once.

-Brian
 

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What did you lube them with? I've got a slight leak that needs to be addressed and I'd like to make sure I only have to do it once.

-Brian

Just a drop of clean motor oil. It keeps the threads from galling as you tighten them up. Same practice as assembling a -AN hose end.
 
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jmarkwolf

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OP here to answer a couple questions and further observations.

The supplied cutter seems to work pretty good. I had a ratcheting cutter on-hand that I tried and it also works but no better than the supplied cutter. I think it just takes practice to get the cuts nice and square.

I'm following directions and taping and doping all the NPT connections but haven't put anything on the AN fittings. One such fitting "creaked" badly while tightening, surprising me, so I may try RaceCougar's suggestion of a clean drop of oil on the AN fittings.

My walls are T1-11 so I simply screw the clips to the walls. They seem to draw down and tighten quite nicely.

My shop is basically a machine shop, motorcycle storage/maintenance/repair, lawn equipment storage kind of shop (no cars). At 28ft x 30ft it is jammed pack full. I have to step outside to change my mind! I don't even have room to move my 6inch pedestal grinder from my attached garage to the shop, if you can believe that. Moving everything away from the walls to install the Maxline plumbing has got me seriously thinking I need to lighten my load some.

My biggest floor space hog is a welding booth and welders. I do so little welding I never get good. I may sell that stuff and find a local welding guy that can do it for me. My original welding buddy was diagnosed with frontal lobe dementia at 55 years old and died 2 years later (chronicled on this forum some years back). I bought the equipment to do my own welding, but I'll never be as good as he was.

I've got all my clips up, and some of the tubing, but I've come to the conclusion that I need some assistance. Just trying to keep the tape measure from buckling while measuring some long horizontal runs while 9 feet up on the ladder is a GPITA. We're going to dinner tonight with another couple. I'm going to recruit him! :)

Stay tuned campers.
 
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My son and wife gave me the M7500 3/4" Rapidair master kit for Father's Day. I've gotten the pipe pretty well straightened with a combination of brute force, the jack handle from the HF aluminum racing jack (ID of the jack handle is slightly larger than the OD of the pipe) and a 10' long piece of 1" ridgid EMT conduit (same idea as the jack handle, but being longer forces more of into shape at the same time.

I've identified a piece I'd like to have for outlets that I don't think they make.
I have my system laid out as a giant H. The compressor is in a corner. The crosspiece is on the ceiling and I intend to add a hose reel at the midpoint of the crosspiece. That's the problem. The aluminum blocks I have are 3/4 NPT on top and 1/2 NPT on the bottom with a 1/2 NPT on both the front and back. I need the bottom to be 3/4 NPT so I can have air flow through there to the other side of the H.
I can probably find a way to get it machined up to 3/4 NPT, but I'm surprised this configuration does not already exist in their inventory.

For the compressor connection - I'm thinking I want to use a dual port block there so I can have a hose at that point without disconnecting the compressor. They make dual port blocks, but this seems like a common thing that most people would want, right?

Included in the kit is a piece I'm not sure what to do with. The kit includes three pipe-to-1/2 NPT male fittings. It also includes one pipe-to-3/4 NPT male fitting. I don't know what the intent is for that pipe to 3/4 male fitting. There are no 3/4 NPT female threads on anything included with this kit. Anyone?
 

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I didn't use a straightner when I installed mine. What I did do is lay it out in the sun on the concrete and let it warm up for a few hours. Seemed to make it more supple and bendable.

I'm more than happy with it.
 
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