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My Rust Bullet experience

Tbarile

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I built a new house (approx. 600 sq/ft garage) and 1500 square foot detached garage for boats, snowmobiles, and other lake toys last March. After recently reading reviews, I decided to put RB down on both surfaces. The house garage was sealed so I rented a diamond grinder to grind surface clean. I put down 3 coats of RB, flake, and 2 coats of clear + anti-skid. It turned out awesome. It's a little slick on bare feet so I wish I would have used a little more anti-skid.

The 1500 square foot garage was not sealed so I power washed with simple green and put down 4 coats of RB. I had to do half of the garage at a time as I moved everything from one side of garage to the other. I used an 18" roller for the garage and man I wish I would have used it for the house as well. Went on just as well and only took me 45 minutes from stir to clean up to do 800 square feet. Being this is my detached garage I decided against the flake due to cost. The flake makes the floor look so much better. A couple of observations on the RB only floor:
1. It's like ice when wet on bare feet. I wish I would have used a heavy dose of anti-skid. My daughters fell twice as it was humid and the entire floor was covered in moisture. I have never seen condensation form like this on a floor.
2. The first section of garage I did looks to have a green shade to it compared to the 2nd section. They were done a week apart with different 5 gallon buckets.
3. I need to find a squeegee to clean the floor. Water beads in big puddles and takes a long time to vaporate when it's humid.

Overall I like the product. I wish the pictures turned out better as it looks much better in person. The detached floor has standing puddles of water in the pictures.

PS. I bought all of my materials from Justin and he was very helpful.

I'm trying to add pics but for some reason it says I'm a guest. I will keep trying.
 

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Dan in Pasadena

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Looks great but you probably better do something to deal with that slippery finish or some one will get hurt. Maybe one more coat with some grit added?
 
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Tbarile

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Looks great but you probably better do something to deal with that slippery finish or some one will get hurt. Maybe one more coat with some grit added?

I know, it is dangerous and quite frankly almost makes me regret doing it. Whoever said you don't need anti skid on RB never experienced it wet. The condensation build up when I open the door here in northern Indiana is enough to slide all over. The problem with rb is that I would have to sand the surface before I could put on another coat. That's a lot of work!
 

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I built a new house (approx. 600 sq/ft garage) and 1500 square foot detached garage for boats, snowmobiles, and other lake toys last March. After recently reading reviews, I decided to put RB down on both surfaces. The house garage was sealed so I rented a diamond grinder to grind surface clean. I put down 3 coats of RB, flake, and 2 coats of clear + anti-skid. It turned out awesome. It's a little slick on bare feet so I wish I would have used a little more anti-skid.

The 1500 square foot garage was not sealed so I power washed with simple green and put down 4 coats of RB. I had to do half of the garage at a time as I moved everything from one side of garage to the other. I used an 18" roller for the garage and man I wish I would have used it for the house as well. Went on just as well and only took me 45 minutes from stir to clean up to do 800 square feet. Being this is my detached garage I decided against the flake due to cost. The flake makes the floor look so much better. A couple of observations on the RB only floor:
1. It's like ice when wet on bare feet. I wish I would have used a heavy dose of anti-skid. My daughters fell twice as it was humid and the entire floor was covered in moisture. I have never seen condensation form like this on a floor.
2. The first section of garage I did looks to have a green shade to it compared to the 2nd section. They were done a week apart with different 5 gallon buckets.
3. I need to find a squeegee to clean the floor. Water beads in big puddles and takes a long time to vaporate when it's humid.

Overall I like the product. I wish the pictures turned out better as it looks much better in person. The detached floor has standing puddles of water in the pictures.

PS. I bought all of my materials from Justin and he was very helpful.

I'm trying to add pics but for some reason it says I'm a guest. I will keep trying.

The absolute last thing we want is for you to have a slick floor. Any coated surface can get slick but let's talk about what we can do to mitigate this for you.

Water on surface... In some respects that is the idea. Moisture does not penetrate. It will sit there until you do something with it.

I appreciate the kind words too. I'm here to help any way I can. I also want to make sure future installation learn from yours. How much anti skid did you use. What kind? How much flake. What color and size.
 
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The absolute last thing we want is for you to have a slick floor. Any coated surface can get slick but let's talk about what we can do to mitigate this for you.

Water on surface... In some respects that is the idea. Moisture does not penetrate. It will sit there until you do something with it.

I appreciate the kind words too. I'm here to help any way I can. I also want to make sure future installation learn from yours. How much anti skid did you use. What kind? How much flake. What color and size.

I only used anti skid at the rate you and I discussed over the phone in the house garage. It was the anti skid I purchased from you. I used 10lb of flake I bought from you, it was black and white.

The major problems with slick floor is in the barn. It's literally an ice rink as it's just 4 coats of RB.
 

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I only used anti skid at the rate you and I discussed over the phone in the house garage. It was the anti skid I purchased from you. I used 10lb of flake I bought from you, it was black and white.

The major problems with slick floor is in the barn. It's literally an ice rink as it's just 4 coats of RB.

OK so the barn is 4 coats, gray only and its slick for you? In that area there is no anti skid, flake or clear, just gray.

Sorry for the questions. Always need to double check everything before making a suggestion. Its also sometimes troublesome to convert GJ handles to too the specific order in question.
 
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OK so the barn is 4 coats, gray only and its slick for you? In that area there is no anti skid, flake or clear, just gray.

Sorry for the questions. Always need to double check everything before making a suggestion. Its also sometimes troublesome to convert GJ handles to too the specific order in question.

The barn has 4 coats and is only the gray RB and is an ice rink. The house has flake, clear coat, and anti-skid. Everything I read said that you don't need anti skid when you use the gray only.
 

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The barn has 4 coats and is only the gray RB and is an ice rink. The house has flake, clear coat, and anti-skid. Everything I read said that you don't need anti skid when you use the gray only.

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You are absolutely, positively correct. In almost every case when we talk about anti skid, we do so in context of clear and color coat. To the best of my knowledge, you are the first person to tell me that the Rust Bullet gray is slick.

I've walked on this stuff wet and dry and I've not had an issue. When people ask me about the gray, I've always said that any coating can be slick when wet, but if it was my floor, based on how I use it, I would not use anti-skid.

The absolute last thing I want is to leave you with a floor you are afraid to walk on. There are several solutions, including one that does not require sanding. If you were to sand, its just for the purpose of scuffing the surface.

I will be having the manufacturer review this thread and we will make some adjustments accordingly.
 
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:scared:

:eyecrazy:

You are absolutely, positively correct. In almost every case when we talk about anti skid, we do so in context of clear and color coat. To the best of my knowledge, you are the first person to tell me that the Rust Bullet gray is slick.

I've walked on this stuff wet and dry and I've not had an issue. When people ask me about the gray, I've always said that any coating can be slick when wet, but if it was my floor, based on how I use it, I would not use anti-skid.

The absolute last thing I want is to leave you with a floor you are afraid to walk on. There are several solutions, including one that does not require sanding. If you were to sand, its just for the purpose of scuffing the surface.

I will be having the manufacturer review this thread and we will make some adjustments accordingly.

Interesting that nobody else has experienced the slick floor. Each one of my daughters literally fell from the moisture created by condensation. When it got even more wet from hosing it off it turned into an ice rink and I could slide around.

What are the solutions that wouldn't require me to scuff up all 1500 square feet?
 

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Interesting that nobody else has experienced the slick floor. Each one of my daughters literally fell from the moisture created by condensation. When it got even more wet from hosing it off it turned into an ice rink and I could slide around.

What are the solutions that wouldn't require me to scuff up all 1500 square feet?

Rust Bullet gray (*** ONLY ***) (I put that there for someone in the future reading this out of context) is a metallic product. All of the color comes from metal flake, not pigment. Because of that MetalBlast will chemically etch it. You just need to rinse it real real well.
 
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Rust Bullet gray (*** ONLY ***) (I put that there for someone in the future reading this out of context) is a metallic product. All of the color comes from metal flake, not pigment. Because of that MetalBlast will chemically etch it. You just need to rinse it real real well.

How much metalblast, anti-skid, and RB would I need to recoat by 1500 sq feet? Cost? What are directions on applying anti-skid?
 
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Anti skid gets mixed in. Typical is .6#/ gallon. We might want to go a little heavier here. I will cover half the Rb material., all the anti skid and metal blast is on me. Give me a call and let's run the numbers.
 

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Hey Justin,

I am having a new garage built 32x60 and I have already read that you don't want to have a sealer applied. What else would you recommend beside the Standard RB? Are there different colors? How much anti skid and colored media would I use for this project? Are there any specific brands and where can I purchase these products?

Thanks!
 

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Hey Justin,

I am having a new garage built 32x60 and I have already read that you don't want to have a sealer applied. What else would you recommend beside the Standard RB? Are there different colors? How much anti skid and colored media would I use for this project? Are there any specific brands and where can I purchase these products?

Thanks!

Hey Overhaulin,

It may help a bit if you let us know what you're trying to achieve with your floor! :thumbup:
 

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Hey Justin,

I am having a new garage built 32x60 and I have already read that you don't want to have a sealer applied. What else would you recommend beside the Standard RB? Are there different colors? How much anti skid and colored media would I use for this project? Are there any specific brands and where can I purchase these products?

Thanks!

Rust Bullet can be applied in the standard gray, with a random flake for additional color or a full broadcast. Alternatively it can be applied with a color coat (red, black, white or if you want to be crazy we have some Purple)

I will need a little more information on how the floor is being used. Please let me know and feel free to PM me or call me on the cell.
 

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So this thread has me a little nervous.

Justin, I'm the one that bought the 5 gallon RB and we discussed the possibility of someone coming out of the pool and into the garage. It is my workshop so there shouldn't be much of that kind of foot traffic but the pool is right there. Plus humidity levels in the Mississippi delta are ridiculous.

Starting to wonder if I should use some anti-skid but not sure if you can use it without clear coat (just using it in the RB itself).

I might call you tomorrow to discuss further.


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Looks nice, Why did you opt to stop short of the edge of the concrete pad? (looks like that anyways from the photo)
 

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So this thread has me a little nervous.

Justin, I'm the one that bought the 5 gallon RB and we discussed the possibility of someone coming out of the pool and into the garage. It is my workshop so there shouldn't be much of that kind of foot traffic but the pool is right there. Plus humidity levels in the Mississippi delta are ridiculous.

Starting to wonder if I should use some anti-skid but not sure if you can use it without clear coat (just using it in the RB itself).

I might call you tomorrow to discuss further.


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not a problem at all. Just pm me the address and the size of the shop again and I will get it out today at no charge. Just mix it in to the final coat.
 
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Anti skid gets mixed in. Typical is .6#/ gallon. We might want to go a little heavier here. I will cover half the Rb material., all the anti skid and metal blast is on me. Give me a call and let's run the numbers.

Thanks Justin. I'll give you a call
 
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Looks nice, Why did you opt to stop short of the edge of the concrete pad? (looks like that anyways from the photo)

That part of the concrete sticks outside of the garage door. After speaking with a few people, I decided to stop at garage door so that you don't see 2 colors of concrete when door is closed.
 
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