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My Rust Bullet Spread

Jackfre

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Quite a process, but it goes down easily. 960 Sq ft, 4 month old slab. Only doing 800Sq ft with RB as the remaining corner will be more welding area and will get the densifier/sealer. I'll also do the exterior apron, sidewalks and deck area with the densifier/sealer as I will have enough.

Anyway, this was a hand troweled finish. It was well done, but is still hand troweled, so some inconsistency of surface. I swept x2, vacuumed, power washed twice, squeegied it off, let it dry and vacuumed it off this morning. I was sorely temped to rent the Dimabrush and take it down, but Justin said it wouldn't be necessary with a new, clean slab so I did not do the grinding. Happily as it turns out!

Temp this morning was 82*, 50% RH. 88* right now for coat two. Opened the 5 gallon can, mixed it for the spec'd 3 minutes. Working it pretty hard it did not throughly mix the black into the gray. There is some black material that gives a kind of swirled, curdled look to the RB. No matter what I was trying with the mixing it remained somewhat separate. Kind of unsettling, but, for once I decided to just follow the directions. Once rolled on it is a consistent color. 9" X 3/8" nap roller on a telescoping handle and I was off. I poured off two gallons and put in the thinner, mixed that up a bit, sealed up the big bucket and began rolling. Took 1:10 min to do the 800 sq ft. There wasn't a cup left of the two gallons. Coverage was very good and it looks good. Strong stuff. The shop is 90' from the house and my wife was hollerin', "What are you doing?" A good respirator is a must. BTW, I would not mind a wider roller, but have to say that the 9" was easy to handle in the corners and against walls. I guess if it was a really big floor, the 9" on the edges and a bigger roller in the field would be ok, but I don't think you gain much.

It has been just over two hrs since I finished the first coat. I just walked on it and it is close to being ready to go to coat two. With three gallons left I expect I'll get three more coats. As fast as it is drying I guess that will work out ok. Pics to follow.
 
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9am-9pm. 3 coats out of 5 gallons for the 800 sq ft. It handles nicely and went down well. Pics to follow, ;)
 

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Quite a process, but it goes down easily. 960 Sq ft, 4 month old slab. Only doing 800Sq ft with RB as the remaining corner will be more welding area and will get the densifier/sealer. I'll also do the exterior apron, sidewalks and deck area with the densifier/sealer as I will have enough.

Anyway, this was a hand troweled finish. It was well done, but is still hand troweled, so some inconsistency of surface. I swept x2, vacuumed, power washed twice, squeegied it off, let it dry and vacuumed it off this morning. I was sorely temped to rent the Dimabrush and take it down, but Justin said it wouldn't be necessary with a new, clean slab so I did not do the grinding. Happily as it turns out!

Temp this morning was 82*, 50% RH. 88* right now for coat two. Opened the 5 gallon can, mixed it for the spec'd 3 minutes. Working it pretty hard it did not throughly mix the black into the gray. There is some black material that gives a kind of swirled, curdled look to the RB. No matter what I was trying with the mixing it remained somewhat separate. Kind of unsettling, but, for once I decided to just follow the directions. Once rolled on it is a consistent color. 9" X 3/8" nap roller on a telescoping handle and I was off. I poured off two gallons and put in the thinner, mixed that up a bit, sealed up the big bucket and began rolling. Took 1:10 min to do the 800 sq ft. There wasn't a cup left of the two gallons. Coverage was very good and it looks good. Strong stuff. The shop is 90' from the house and my wife was hollerin', "What are you doing?" A good respirator is a must. BTW, I would not mind a wider roller, but have to say that the 9" was easy to handle in the corners and against walls. I guess if it was a really big floor, the 9" on the edges and a bigger roller in the field would be ok, but I don't think you gain much.

It has been just over two hrs since I finished the first coat. I just walked on it and it is close to being ready to go to coat two. With three gallons left I expect I'll get three more coats. As fast as it is drying I guess that will work out ok. Pics to follow.

The swirls is one of the most common questions we get. It is the aluminum that gives the RB its color. Here is a picture and post about that: http://www.garageflooringllc.com/2015/04/20/faq-is-my-rust-bullet-mixed/ can't wait to see pics of your floor:beer:
 
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From an information standpoint, Justin, I would suggest that you include an info sheet on the "swirls". I did this over a holiday weekend and it was somewhat disconcerting seeing the separation and not knowing. That separation remains while in the roller pan and the material goes down with a darker than finish gray. You can see the black in it. I worked the various areas to an expansion joint cut, so I would roll a 4-5' deep section across the floor and again it appeared kinda black/gray. Rolling back over it the finish gray color came right up. Pretty cool actually...as long as you get every bit of it back rolled. I have one 3x3 section over by the bare concrete that I missed and is a bit darker. The floor picture also shows some sheetmetal in the expansion joints. I had some off-cuts of the 24 ga metal I put on the walls. By sliding them in the exp joints as I rolled I ended up with excellent joints. Very pleased with how that worked.

Yes, I have roller marks. No I don't mind them. The finish is excellent. When compared with what the steps an epoxy process would have required vs the clean the floor and roll out the RB, I'd recommend RB for ease, speed and appearance. Mine is not a show place. Epoxy may be a better option for a floor being used as a marketing tool.

One other thing. There is a decided fragrance to this stuff. If I was putting it down in a neighborhood, I would probably alert my neighbors to avoid any mis-understandings.
 

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From an information standpoint, Justin, I would suggest that you include an info sheet on the "swirls". I did this over a holiday weekend and it was somewhat disconcerting seeing the separation and not knowing. That separation remains while in the roller pan and the material goes down with a darker than finish gray. You can see the black in it. I worked the various areas to an expansion joint cut, so I would roll a 4-5' deep section across the floor and again it appeared kinda black/gray. Rolling back over it the finish gray color came right up. Pretty cool actually...as long as you get every bit of it back rolled. I have one 3x3 section over by the bare concrete that I missed and is a bit darker. The floor picture also shows some sheetmetal in the expansion joints. I had some off-cuts of the 24 ga metal I put on the walls. By sliding them in the exp joints as I rolled I ended up with excellent joints. Very pleased with how that worked.

Yes, I have roller marks. No I don't mind them. The finish is excellent. When compared with what the steps an epoxy process would have required vs the clean the floor and roll out the RB, I'd recommend RB for ease, speed and appearance. Mine is not a show place. Epoxy may be a better option for a floor being used as a marketing tool.

One other thing. There is a decided fragrance to this stuff. If I was putting it down in a neighborhood, I would probably alert my neighbors to avoid any mis-understandings.

"There is a decided fragrance" :bounce: I am going to have to steal that line... I just tell people my wife says it stinks like..... :)

Your point on the mixing is well taken. I've got to get that video done. Part of the issue I have here is :shocking: the more we include in the instructions the less people read them :shocking: so we are always trying to figure out what to add and what to take out. The swirly look of the RB definitely needs to be mentioned. What do you think of this: "Even after mixing, Rust Bullet has a decidedly unmixed look and will appear streaky in the can but will even out when applied"

As an FYI I am going to be pointing the manufacturer to this post and the other one that is active right now.
 
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