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My Saw Exploded.

metaldad

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For my own knowledge - why would pvc pipe be too much for any blade in a miter saw? Its plastic and the blade is designed for in my thoughts, harder material.
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pvc can shrapnel into multiple little pieces when cut with a circular saw, be it a hand held, miter, table, radial.
 
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nucklebuster

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why would pvc pipe be too much for any blade in a miter saw? Its plastic and the blade is designed for in my thoughts, harder material.

It's too much because of it's shape, that whole "round" thing makes for interesting gymnastics on the saw.

I have sympathy for you in that your saw is now broken buddy, however, this is routine maintenance. I'd be willing to bet if you had checked your handy dandy laser scope prior to self-destruct mode you would have noticed a few loosened or missing nuts/bots/screws. It would be like putting a 6' cheater pipe on a 1/4" ratchet and wondering why it broke, :headscrat
 

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You were only cutting PVC??? Good God! I knew Craftsman was going down hill, but now we have to exclude PVC? What can be cut?

How old was the saw before failure?
 
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brokensaw

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You have stated (and defended) multiple times that the blade never touched the pipe. However, the blade shows the infamous white burn mark below the teeth that any trained eye knows comes only from cutting pvc. I would like to believe your story, but having cut pvc more times than i care to relate, and knowing how it responds, leaves me a bit skeptical of what actually happened. Regardless, be glad you didn't get hurt, and learn from this.

The only cut that was on the pipe was curved and slanted and 3-4 inches away from the blade, and that cut lined up with a piece of the lower blade guard I still have the piece of pipe, but l used it to see what tool would be best for cutting square holes in the side of the pipe so its not in the form that the incident caused it to be in. The cut that was left on it after the incident would be impossible for the blade of the saw to make. And PVC pipe was cut on that a few months ago to make a trellis for the garden, that is why you see white burn marks. And the pipe that was used to make the trellis is UV protected, so it would have a different composition, Just to point that out.
 

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So, was the saw still under the factory warranty when this happened? No?
Then I really can't see where anybody owes you anything. It was unfortunate, Sears should be notified, but otherwise you should be shopping for a new miter saw.
 
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brokensaw

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Wait, let me get this straight, you bought a tool, used it a bunch, past its warranty period and it broke. You didn't get hurt, yet you want "something" for it breaking. Dude, your not getting a free saw, your not getting a settlement. If your contemplating filing a lawsuit, your, well my mother raised me better than to say what I'm thinking.

It was not used all that much, maybe 5 hours of operation maybe less, but that being said it does not mean it was not taken care of, and maintained. And I want it replaced for nearly either killing me or seriously injuring me which that was a catastrophic failure. If it just broke without trying to kill me I would just **** it up, and save for a nice saw. And you don't know how much I used it so you have absolutely no room to talk about that.
 
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brokensaw

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Its a saw, and a cheap one at that, when things get stuck in the blade bad things happen. Good luck proving it wasn't operator error or neglect. One of the first things every power tool manual says is to check for damaged or loose parts before operation. Other than that stuff happens especially around objects spinning at 5000RPM. Repair the saw or throw it away and move on.

There were no loose or damaged parts. It was a flaw in the design and materials in my case.
 

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Not to join in on bashing Sears.. but I found that their "installers" reversed the hot and cold water on my advanced washing machine. My wife said it wasn't cleaning nor getting the wrinkles out well.. and I only found this because I replaced my water heater and the anti flooding hoses caught the air bubble and did not fill the washer and it faulted out. 2 hours later.. and I've decided its not even worth complaining to Sears. Sorry for being off topic. I'll bring us back... SEARS *****.
 
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brokensaw

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It's too much because of it's shape, that whole "round" thing makes for interesting gymnastics on the saw.

I have sympathy for you in that your saw is now broken buddy, however, this is routine maintenance. I'd be willing to bet if you had checked your handy dandy laser scope prior to self-destruct mode you would have noticed a few loosened or missing nuts/bots/screws. It would be like putting a 6' cheater pipe on a 1/4" ratchet and wondering why it broke, :headscrat

I checked there were no loose, broken or damaged parts Before I used it.
 

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Not to join in on bashing Sears.. but I found that their "installers" reversed the hot and cold water on my advanced washing machine. My wife said it wasn't cleaning nor getting the wrinkles out well.. and I only found this because I replaced my water heater and the anti flooding hoses caught the air bubble and did not fill the washer and it faulted out. 2 hours later.. and I've decided its not even worth complaining to Sears. Sorry for being off topic. I'll bring us back... SEARS *****.

Exact same thing happened to my Son's washer after Sears installed and delivered.
 

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It was not used all that much, maybe 5 hours of operation maybe less, but that being said it does not mean it was not taken care of, and maintained. And I want it replaced for nearly either killing me or seriously injuring me which that was a catastrophic failure. If it just broke without trying to kill me I would just **** it up, and save for a nice saw. And you don't know how much I used it so you have absolutely no room to talk about that.



How about a close up of both halves of the Laser Disc?

There were no loose or damaged parts. It was a flaw in the design and materials in my case.

Have you made any inquires as to past history of the laser disc breaking into half?

315.212500

If you click the link below as you scroll down the page you'll notice on the right side that there is a block - Join the conversation / ask a question - You'll have to register unless you already have an account over there.

Ensure you include the model number and serial number of the saw.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/par...elNumber=315212500&diagramPageId=&documentId=


Edit to add -

Have you made time to -
File a Report
with the Consumer Product Safety Commission?
https://www.saferproducts.gov/CPSRMSPublic/Incidents/ReportIncident.aspx
 
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brokensaw

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I don't question anything about this unfortunate and very scary incident. It certainly is a wake up call for any of us who are complacent like me.

What I do have some wonderment about is the user name and the fact that all 18 of his/her posts (to date) are about this incident.

I did start this profile because of the incident. I am mostly a computer geek, but that being said it does not mean I don't know how to use tools or what I am doing.
 

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It was not used all that much, maybe 5 hours of operation maybe less, but that being said it does not mean it was not taken care of, and maintained. And I want it replaced for nearly either killing me or seriously injuring me which that was a catastrophic failure. If it just broke without trying to kill me I would just **** it up, and save for a nice saw. And you don't know how much I used it so you have absolutely no room to talk about that.

I just deleted my reply. It's not worth the effort to talking to somebody with a chip on their shoulder. Good luck with life, something tells me your going to need it. Keith
 
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If it just broke without trying to kill me I would just **** it up, and save for a nice saw.

You computer geeks certainly have a flair for drama. Something tells me you've lived a sheltered life in front of your computer too long. A lot of your compatriots have experienced many more real near death experiences in the real world only to to get up, dust themselves off and get back at it (although maybe a little more cautiously next time). If you're playing a virtual reality game on the computer and some shrapnel or bullets come whizzing by your head so close you hear the air sizzle as they go by - can you sue the software company because you were ALMOST scared to death? It's probably the same as ALMOST getting injured, only the lawyers make money. Sorry, your experience doesn't rank very high on the danger scale.

I agree you could have been injured but killed is a little over the top. In reality neither happened because the safety guard did it's job and directed the projectiles down and away from you. Case closed.

We've all bought tools for a specific job and then afterwards watched it sit while the clock ticked past the warrantee date. Time to get over it and move on.
 

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Good thing you weren't hurt. Move on to a bigger and better brand next time.
 

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OP is just a drama lama that only joined to make us do his heavy lifting.

**** it up buttercup, if you are out of warranty, that is just the breaks sometimes.
 

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So I'm betting the blade made that curved cut as the pipe climbed up and bound, one hand holding one end down and the other end free to climb. The pipe ripped the laser off the spindle as it wedged up under the guard. And the then the whole thing exploded.
 

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So I'm betting the blade made that curved cut as the pipe climbed up and bound, one hand holding one end down and the other end free to climb. The pipe ripped the laser off the spindle as it wedged up under the guard. And the then the whole thing exploded.



Ding! Ding! Ding! I think we have a winner.
 

ez-duzit

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...my craftsman compound miter saw exploded....the guide flew apart and and the two pieces it split into got flung in between the blade and the blade guard causing the metal upper and plastic lower blade guard to explode into pieces, and parts of the guards were thrown across my garage ...before the blade even touched the pipe it exploded. I need help getting a hold of someone who will make this right. I could have been seriously injured or killed, it catastrophically failed...

Drama queen?
 

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My saw did the same thing once, when I threw it across the driveway. Cheap saws ****.

Sears wont give you a thing! So quit being a little girl and move on.
 

Dave in Mass

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He shouldn't have thrown a brick in it while on spin cycle.


Ha ha. That is a classic Zeke.

I should have been clearer. Sears came out and installed his washing machine with the hot and cold hoses reversed.

I have only been here a few years and I wasn't sure if there were any Sears Bashing threads. :)
 

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What the heck does a washing machine have to do with an exploding saw?


Did the washing machine explode when you were trying to wash PVC pipe in it?
 

softailgarage

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I smell a troll. Right out of the gate his story sounded fishy. Probably some 14 year old with a sledge hammer....and a piece of PVC....left over from daddys home made air lines.
 
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