My Small But Growing 1/4" drive Socket Set Collection

[CRTDI]

If you've never seen it, here is an excerpt with all your P- numbers!

Lugz,

I appreciate you posting this, very helpful indeed.....

Don't think my OCD is going to appreciate it much though....

 

[stormking]

Vi-Chrome
IMG_0086 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/119819727@N06/, on Flickr

 

[Oldtuleguy]

That's a nice hinge handle spinner

 

[four.cycle]

stormking - that ViChrome set is very nice. Quite the find there.

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Private Lugnutz - In the process of digging around in another box today I came across a "Dayton" set, but it's in a red box and includes what looks like a Penens (?) ratchet. (Go figure.)

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Also came across another box of Giller mish-mash, which is one of several Giller/Thorsen "grab bags" I've acquired.

Not having very good luck with photos indoors, as can be seen below:

 

[four.cycle]

Walden Worcester 1/4" drive "Migit" SAE socket set

Sorry the photos are terrible. I may try to re-shoot this one when I get time.
This set is 3/16" - 7/16", 6-point and 12-point, with a spinner handle and an unmarked sliding "Tee" handle.
The ignition wrench set was obviously an add-on and includes:
1912 3/16", 1913 13/64", 1914 7/32", 1915 15/64", 1916 1/4", 1918 9/32", 1920 5/16", 1922 11/32", 1924 3/8", 1928 7/16"

Walden 'Migit' 1/4" dr SAE socket set 01 by four.cycle, on Flickr

Walden 'Migit' 1/4" dr SAE socket set 02 by four.cycle, on Flickr

Walden 'Migit' 1/4" dr SAE socket set 03 by four.cycle, on Flickr

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Lugz, crtdi, nice work on penens numbers! They are confusing. Here are 51 challenger numbers, they are different, yet many of the tools in the catalog are only labeled penens.

 

[CRTDI]

Vi-Chrome
IMG_0086 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/119819727@N06/, on Flickr

A beautiful and rare unobtanium set by the man himself that started this whole mess....

Awesome to see you posting in this thread.....bring 'em on....

 

[Oldtuleguy]

You mean there are more like that

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Otc set. Don't know much about this one, probably made by someone else...

 

[Provincial]

Do you think that OTC cross-bar is heavy enough?

 

[d42jeep]

Looks to be the same 5/16” diameter as the early S-K bar.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I appreciate you posting this, very helpful indeed.....

Don't think my OCD is going to appreciate it much though....

Sorry about that!

Vi-Chrome

Are the pieces or the box marked Herbrand? Or just Vi-Chrome?

 

[Username already in use]

Are the pieces or the box marked Herbrand? Or just Vi-Chrome?

Dunno about how those are marked, but that looks like a Bonney ratchet to me...

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That would make sense if it was from the mid to late 60's when Bonney, Herbrand and Utica were all under one roof in South Carolina with a big Triangle on the front door. I believe Herbrand started making the Vi-Chrome economy line tools in the 50's when Bonney was making Bon-E-con economy line tools. EDIT: Did the Vi-Chrome line go into the 60's? Was it still being carried under Triangle? I dunno. Not my niche.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The ignition wrench set was obviously an add-on...

Why is it obvious? Are they not Walden wrenches? (I can't see the markings even with the Flickr zoom, sorry!) Or are you saying that because Walden did not sell midget master electrical/ignition sets with drive tools and ignition wrenches like Bonney (e.g., No. VS2), Duro (e.g., No. 4500) and Williams (e.g., No. 1285P)?

 

[bmwrd0]

Hinsdale Refrigerator set. Its 9/32" and 3/8" drive, with the adaptors to use a refer ratchet. I know it is missing at least one socket, not sure what else as I have no catalog to reference.

 

[bmwrd0]

PEC set. When I picked it up it had a Plomb pebble ratchet, but the Snap-on industrial finish looked better to my eyes.

 

[four.cycle]

Why is it obvious? Are they not Walden wrenches? (I can't see the markings even with the Flickr zoom, sorry!) Or are you saying that because Walden did not sell midget master electrical/ignition sets with drive tools and ignition wrenches like Bonney (e.g., No. VS2), Duro (e.g., No. 4500) and Williams (e.g., No. 1285P)?

I've not seen a catalog illustration which shows a Walden 1/4" set containing ignition wrenches, so I assumed the wrenches were not originally part of the set. But since you raise the question, I suppose it's possible they may have offered a set containing those wrenches - we just haven't seen anything in the way of a catalog listing that would indicate that.
Yes, they are all Walden Worcester wrenches - tiny little things.

Again, I'll re-shoot those images to get better detail. Trying to shoot indoors at night just isn't working.

 

[tin medic]

I can tell you they are not included in the SW 1944 catalog.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I've not seen a catalog illustration which shows a Walden 1/4" set containing ignition wrenches

Me neither, but I only have the 1940 and the 1953 factory catalogs to check. It does seem as if Walden may have eschewed the concept.

Yes, they are all Walden Worcester wrenches - tiny little things.

I love 'em. They are not GMTK spec (15* angle x 60* angle) type ignition wrenches. Even though they are tiny, like ignition wrenches, they have severe (at least 75*, possibly 90* angle, hard for me to tell) offsets, like the wrenches Williams, Plomb, and others call either "electrical" or miniature "obstruction" wrenches. I want some! I have them from Williams, Plomb, Armstrong, Craftsman and man others, but no Walden.

 

[bmwrd0]

by I haven't seen any Armstrong in this thread, so...


And this is the one that I keep on my bench, goes up to 11/16", which I had never seen before

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Love those armstrong spinners

 

[d42jeep]

Here are my Dunlap hex sockets in both drive sizes.
-Don

 

[d42jeep]

I posted this eBay find on the Plomb thread but here it is again. I managed to save the rare pin handle. The set came with a couple of WarFinish marked sockets.
-Don

 

[twertsy]

Hinsdale Refrigerator set. Its 9/32" and 3/8" drive, with the adaptors to use a refer ratchet. I know it is missing at least one socket, not sure what else as I have no catalog to reference.

Dang that's a cool set!

 

[four.cycle]

d42jeep -

what are the dimensions on this Dunlap box?


are any of those Dunlap 1/2" hex drive sockets marked "U.S.A." ?


(I am assuming the 1/2" hex drive sockets in the tray are the same as the others- same knurling pattern, same markings.)

 

[d42jeep]

d42jeep -

what are the dimensions on this Dunlap box?


are any of those Dunlap 1/2" hex drive sockets marked "U.S.A." ?


(I am assuming the 1/2" hex drive sockets in the tray are the same as the others- same knurling pattern, same markings.)

BK,
Other than being unused, they are exactly the same. I couldn’t tell about the sockets from enlarging the pictures so I’ll check and measure the little box later today and get back to you
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

by I haven't seen any Armstrong in this thread, so...

What year(s)/era of production do you think the set with the yellow label torn away on top is, Beemer? And how are the sockets marked? Reason I ask is, I have a very partial 3/8-inch drive set with that identical label. I'm at work and therefore using "as found" photos (I actually have a full set of ARMALOY ignition wrenches in that box now, just because they fit and match)... Not to expand the subject of the thread from 9/32- or 1/4-inch "midget" into 3/8-inch "cub/junior" territory, but just for the sake of showing the label and the markings!

Love those armstrong spinners

Identical, or very dang close, to the Williams version. I have noted some kind of relationship between those two here in the past, with other tools (e.g., SOE wrenches), including socket drive tools, and so has Todd. Really need to re-visit that in earnest some day...

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Couple differences, heavier knurling on williams, exposed lock ball and slot on armstrong

 

[bmwrd0]

lugz, when I have time in the next few days, I will start an Armstrong thread and we can start getting into that. I have quite a bit more Armstrong stuff and a few catalogs.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Great! I only have access to a 1939 cat, and I believe these are much later.

 

[d42jeep]

d42jeep -

what are the dimensions on this Dunlap box?


are any of those Dunlap 1/2" hex drive sockets marked "U.S.A." ?


(I am assuming the 1/2" hex drive sockets in the tray are the same as the others- same knurling pattern, same markings.)

BK,
The little Dunlap box is 6-1/4” long by 1-3/4” deep and about 1” tall. The sockets are only marked DUNLAP and the size. I do have some non-Craftsman Sears tools that are a few years newer. The sockets are metric, marked only Made in USA with the size. The drive tools are unmarked and identical to the Dunlap ones.
-Don

 

[four.cycle]

Thanks. Answers the question of whether or not G.M. Mfg. Co. was the only one making 1/2" hex-drive sockets stamped "MADE IN U.S.A." like that - obviously they were not.

I didn't realize that box had that great big decal on the top!

 

[CRTDI]

Dunlap box with a no name 1/4" hex set and some pretty decent Dunlap ignition wrenches. Don't really know came in this box originally.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...and some pretty decent Dunlap ignition wrenches.

Those are sweet. Vlchek is the OEM. I have a few Vlchek-branded orphans, "BT" is identified as Vlchek on Lauver's Craftsman code chart, and I have double-verified it myself by comparing a few Craftsman "BT" ball-pain hammers to Vlchek ball-pein hammers. It is 100% Vlchek.

EDIT: Added a pic of the two Vlchek orphans (at this rate, it will take me a few years to complete a 7-wrench set these from the wild...), with a DUNLAP cousin.

 

[CRTDI]

That's interesting info. Been wondering why I've never come across a Vlchek 1/4" set. Pretty sure Vlchek mass produced quite a few tools.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I don't think they made a midget set. In general, detachable socket drive tools was not their forte. There are drive tools in the 1936 catalog (just 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4) but none in the 1941 catalog, and none show up in wartime surplus or wartime manuals. They're desirable because they're cool looking and so rare, but it really wasn't their thing.

 

[CRTDI]

Stahlwille metric set.












Couple of pics with a similar styled handle flex magnetic pick-up tool.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That is THEE longest flex spinner I have ever seen.