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My Snap-On Experience (Soon)

ToolDude

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O.K., guys.

The Snap-On tools I have used: Ratchets & Sockets.

That's pretty much it. Right now, I think they are just as good as Craftsman, but no better.

I have $200 in my budget (wife approved) for new tools. You guys tell me what Snap-On tools to buy, including screwdrivers, pliers, bits, whatever. I'll use them and let you guys know what I think.

I'm serious about this. I am going to buy them, take pictures using them, et cetera... You tell me what you think I should start with.

At best, you'll convert me.

At worst, Snap-On's bottom line will increase - even if a little.

So, what do you have in mind?
 
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taylorboi

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well i was a craftsman guy but one stop at a snap on truck got me hooked but pliers is a must great quality. screwdrivers there ok im a green kinda guy so i got the green ones but a set is like $120 great feel. wrenches i love my flank drive plus ones but there a bit pricey about $280 and the ratcheting ones about $300 ratchets must have wobble plus extensions best of both worlds $150 for a set sockets about 180 to 320 depends on the drive size theres so many tools but just pace your self if you look at the show off you tool box thread all my tools i got in 3 months dont get to tool crazy
 

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Unfortunately, $200 doesn't go very far on the Snap On truck. If you think Snap On rachets and sockets are no better, your Snap On stuff must be very old. Snap On sockets and rachets are far superior to Craftsman for everyday use. If I only used mine once in a while, that would be one thing but it's how I make my living.
 

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Granted I'm just a home user but I really don't see any difference when I've used Craftsman vs Snap On. Maybe if you're using them everyday, but otherwise I'd just go Craftsman. Plus if you're a home user, Craftsman is a lot easier to exchange on warranty.
 

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Unless you are a full-time auto mechanic that makes his living with his tools, I don't think you need Snap-On. Sure they are nice, etc., but think about philosophy of use.

Most of my tools are Gedore and Wera that cost at most half the price of Snap-On, but will last at least as long.

Run and hide....
 

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:headscrat trolls?

OK, I'll play along..........what's the big deal? If you think one brand of tool is just as good as another and much more affordable, then why bother to switch?
 

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If I had the $200 to blow and didn't have anything snapon I would buy an FH80 for sure. Think of what you need and go from there. As others have said...$200 doesn't get you very far. If you had $500-$1000 You could get a decent amount.
 

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I wouldnt bother with an f80 personally, I prefer the FHN747 to it any day.

Only thing that I really really like from Snap-on is the mini hook pick sets. Other than that I have heard a lot of love for the chrome Universal sockets and the flare wrenches.

Don't just be infatuated with a name, buy what feels good in your hand and works well for you. Sometimes that will be Snap-on, sometimes it won't be.
 

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SO screwdrivers, pliers, bits are good but you can get other brands that are as good or better for less money. (ex: PB Swiss)

I think SO's wrenches and ratchets are really where the value is.

I'd use the $200 to get a set of double box end long pattern wrenches in your choice of SAE or Metric. (ex: XBM605A)

If you don't want wrenches then get a couple dual 80 ratchets. (FH80 and/or FHNF100)

If you use line wrenches, then a SO set would also be a good choice.
 

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Man I really want a set of SO line wrenches, Metric and SAE....:drool:
Oh and I really would like to fill in my SO hex bit set as well....

Ive been happy with my used SO thus far and my money goes further that way.
 

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1st post -

They have a great new slip joint plier I just purchased. It has 3 setttings instead of the standard 2. It has higher leverage handles, and has a cross hatch teeth for gripping rather than the usual slits. I just spent another grand on tools with the snap on guy and this was the best thing I purchased this time around.
 

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1st post -

They have a great new slip joint plier I just purchased. It has 3 setttings instead of the standard 2. It has higher leverage handles, and has a cross hatch teeth for gripping rather than the usual slits. I just spent another grand on tools with the snap on guy and this was the best thing I purchased this time around.

I got those pliers as a warranty replacement for the old style black ones with only two settings. The new ones grip like none other with the spikey cross hatching!

My three tool categories where I prefer Snap-on are pliers, ratchets (dual 80) and screwdrivers. The mini-picks are also very nice and the breaker bars are sweet as well. $200 won't get you far, though.
 
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I have lived on Craftsman and SK stuff for many years. Many years ago, I bought a few Snap-on combo wrenches in the sizes I use most, and for 20+ years these were the only Snap-on tools I owned. The quality of how these feel in your hands can not be matched.

Then I got hooked on buying used Snap-on stuff on eBay......now I have more Snap-on tools than most pro techs, (I am just a home hobbyist).

What I would do, is look on eBay for a mint set of flank drive combo wrenches. A new set will be out of your budget, but you can get a 10mm-19mm set for under $200 used. A raised panel Craftsman feels like Chicom junk by comparison, and even the Craftsman 'Pro" is nowhere near the same league. You will soon be hooked. Here's the set to look for:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...1&group_ID=522&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog
 

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Tool Dude-

I'm going to angle on this in a little bit different manner. I happened to notice your avatar: Apple. Being an Apple user and a Snap-on user, this got me thinking...

The differences between Craftsman and Snap-on could very easily be compared to the differences between PCs and Apple computers. These differences include initial cost, service after the sale, resale value, R&D, etc. I expect that you have more than a handful of reasons that you chose to buy an Apple, and many of these same reasons could apply to your purchase of Snap-on products.

Just trying to get you to think here. Please lets not have this thread become a PC vs. Apple argument.
 

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Just don't turn into a Snap-On maniac lol. Remember Rigid makes the best pipe wrenches, Fluke makes the best meters, Crecent makes the best adjustables, Channellock makes the best Channellocks, Visegrips are the best locking pliers, Thomas and Betts makes the best wire strippers, etc etc.
 

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Just don't turn into a Snap-On maniac lol. Remember Rigid makes the best pipe wrenches, Fluke makes the best meters, Crecent makes the best adjustables, Channellock makes the best Channellocks, Grip-ons are the best locking pliers, Thomas and Betts makes the best wire strippers, etc etc.

Fixed it for you!! :beer:
 

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Just don't turn into a Snap-On maniac lol. Remember Rigid makes the best pipe wrenches, Fluke makes the best meters, Crecent makes the best adjustables, Channellock makes the best Channellocks, Visegrips are the best locking pliers, Thomas and Betts makes the best wire strippers, etc etc.

You forgot about knipex. Knipex are pretty much the best when it comes to pliers. You would never want to use channellocks again after using a pair of cobras. Like some others have said, if your just using these tools for occasional home use you really don't need snap on or other high end brands, though they are very nice to have.
 

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Just don't turn into a Snap-On maniac lol. Remember Rigid makes the best pipe wrenches, Fluke makes the best meters, Crecent makes the best adjustables, Channellock makes the best Channellocks, Visegrips are the best locking pliers, Thomas and Betts makes the best wire strippers, etc etc.

vise grips were the best until they sold to rubbermaid who closed down the plant and shipped everything over to china and now they are no better than the ones at harbor freight. I'm really glad I have a small stock of the older made in the usa ones.
 

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Tool Dude-

I'm going to angle on this in a little bit different manner. I happened to notice your avatar: Apple. Being an Apple user and a Snap-on user, this got me thinking...

The differences between Craftsman and Snap-on could very easily be compared to the differences between PCs and Apple computers. These differences include initial cost, service after the sale, resale value, R&D, etc. I expect that you have more than a handful of reasons that you chose to buy an Apple, and many of these same reasons could apply to your purchase of Snap-on products.

Just trying to get you to think here. Please lets not have this thread become a PC vs. Apple argument.

This same type of comparison was made to him in the Snap-On tool cart thread and it did in fact turn in to a PC v Mac...
 
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This same type of comparison was made to him in the Snap-On tool cart thread and it did in fact turn in to a PC v Mac...

Yeah, and the Snap-On guy claimed Windows was better. Ironic.

I'm sure Snap-On tools are awesome, and that's what I wanna find out. Because, come to think of it, the Snap-On tools I've used were much older than my Craftsman. I'm sure that has something to do with it. So, for now I have $200 dedicated to Snap-On and we'll see.

Maybe I'll become a Snap-On fan-boy. Who knows...
 

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I'd buy an F80, an Instinct (hard handle) #2 anti cam-out philips screwdriver, and 1 regular flankdrive wrench in your most commonly used size.

Those 3 things should come close to eating up your $200.

If by using those three things you are not a reborn tool guy...i'll be amazed.

Chris
 

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You would never want to use channellocks again after using a pair of cobras.

I don't know about that. The Cobras are superior for most applications, but the wider jaw of my Channellocks has me grabbing for those (if my Plierwrench isn't at hand).
 

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The "Apple is like Snap-on" concept isn't actually very accurate. Inside the case an Apple has identical parts to a PC. Literally no difference. So Apple is more like if there was a Craftsman truck that would stop by the shop but charge twice as much. A buyer would be paying for excellent service and ease of use, but the tool wouldn't do the task any faster or better.
 

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Maybe a ratcheting screwdriver. I've given a bunch of them as gifts, to non mechanics, and the recipients have all been impressed.
 

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A few of the things Snap-On is known for:
Hex tools having great fitment
Their screwdrivers
Flank Drive Wrenches
Ratchets

Honestly you're not going to get a set of sockets and be converted. They are damn nice, but for 90% of the jobs you'll never tell the difference. You will immediately feel the ratchet being way finer and smoother, the screwdriver getting a screw out that the CMAN would have stripped, the open end of the wrenches fitting way better, and the hex's not rounding off.

Like others have said, look used on Ebay, or CL the $200 will go much further. Especially if you get the one most common of stuff you use to try it out. Ex. a 13mm Wrench, a #2 Phillips, a 5mm T-Handle Hex, a 3/8 and a 1/4 ratchet. I use those a lot, so I would try those out in a new brand first.

Worst case, you don't like them, put them on the Classified here, they'll sell quickly!
 

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I say a ratchet or two. I prefer my duralast ratchets over my craftsman pro ratchet. But..id prefer a snap on over any ratchet i own.
 

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If you deal with torx fastners you might want to consider getting a set of the torx bit sockets. I'd start off with a good long handle 3/8 SO ratchet if I was on a $200 budget. The older FL936's can be had for a decent price as most want the 80 tooth ratchets now.
 

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Yeah, and the Snap-On guy claimed Windows was better. Ironic.

I'm sure Snap-On tools are awesome, and that's what I wanna find out. Because, come to think of it, the Snap-On tools I've used were much older than my Craftsman. I'm sure that has something to do with it. So, for now I have $200 dedicated to Snap-On and we'll see.

Maybe I'll become a Snap-On fan-boy. Who knows...

I've used PC's and Macs for over a decade at my current employer, as well as having used Snap-on and craftsman, wera, bahco, felo, proto, kobalt, husky, harbor freight, the list goes on and on.

I specialized in ultra high precision machining of aerospace components. I KNOW quality when I see it, and on top of that I have freaking amazing eyesight. I could see flaws on micro-machinery that it took most of my coworkers a microscope to see. I also have a decent knowledge of metallurgy.

I've opened up harbor freight ratchets and seen better finish quality than snap-on ratchets. I've also had the cheapest, most worthless piece of **** tools I've ever seen come from Harbor Freight. "Best" is on a tool-by-tool basis. Anyone who says everything of a certain brand is "the best", is self destructive IMO. They're only hurting themselves.




Buying a great tool because "you won't be a true pro" unless you spend enough on ratchet set to pay off your car, is the biggest load of **** I've ever heard. Yet somehow, experienced mechanics have no problem whatsoever peer-pressuring beginner mechanics into buying tools they can't afford, and if they make the SMART decision of buying cheaper tools in the beginning, they aren't taken seriously as a professional and are ridiculed for their choice. It depends on the shop too, some shops are pretty cool about it, but some are such big mac-snap-whores that they won't even talk to people with the wrong kind of tools. Sad.

Then, on top of that, the pros have the audacity to say "well, they don't have to blow all their money on tools". Well, actually, yes they do... because if they don't, they're going to have to hear **** from every goddamned person in the shop until they do... even if they don't hear ****, they're going to be looked down on by the tool snobs.

They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. On top of that, even the schools are cramming it down their throat... you HAVE to buy snap-on, all other tools are ****, you aren't a "real" mechanic unless you buy snap-on.

Yes, I know nobody was holding a gun to their head. Sometimes peer pressure can be nearly as bad as a bullet in the brain, especially when you're new to a job and trying desperately to fit in.




Don't get me wrong... I LOVE Snap-on tools. They're great. I don't even mind the price. It's the same reason I own Knipex pliers. I just hate the tool snobbery that goes along with some snap-on owners. The ARE NOT the only game in town, and depending on what type of tool you're looking for, they ARE NOT always the best.

IF you're a professional mechanic, and IF you have a weekly driver that is GOOD, IMO snap-on is the ONLY choice. If not, things get more complicated.

I'm not necessarily talking about the majority on this forum, but some people get so smug and snobby with Snap-on that it almost makes me ashamed to be an owner myself... much like with Apple products (the only one I own is an iPod. I hate OSX (see below).



[Disclaimer, PC vs. Mac Section]

As far as computers go, OSX server is the most convoluted POS I've ever had the displeasure of using. I can't stand Apple's smug factor, and I can't stand the way they act as if their Foxconn manufactured components are superior to all other components when in fact they are only middle of the road in quality.

Windows is massively more powerful than OSX in an industrial environment, which is something I see day after day. I also prefer Windows 7 over OSX for a home environment.

The only things that Apple makes that stand out in quality versus most PC's is the server grade Power Macs, and all of their LCD Displays (including laptop and iMac). Everything else uses overpriced, standard-*** hardware encased in a shiny, rounded rectangles.

I've used about twenty or so machines at any given time over the last decade at work, half mac, half PC. My bosses Power Mac is the most crash ridden joke I've ever seen, constant freezes, it just *****. We've tried new hard drives, fresh OS, etc. It's the software, period.

For instance, my boss uses Punch Software SharkCAD on his Mac, and it runs like ****, but runs perfectly on my PC at home. NEVER crashes. Supposedly, the Mac version is "better". Better my ***.





Oh, and sorry for going PC vs. Mac. I could have gone on longer, but I decided to stop.
 
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