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My Tinshop HD37 / HD40 Application

PurdueSD

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*** Don’t buy this ****, its performance has been terrible***

Here's my process:

1. Clean Slab as good as you can get it, depends on what you are starting with. I scrubbed dirty parts with a push broom, hosed and squeegee and wasn't happy with it. So i borrowed and industrial floor scrubber, still not clean enough for me.... so in the end i just power washed my whole slab and squeegee dry. If your not happy with how your floor looks when its wet/ dampish i would keep cleaning. All the chemicals are going to do is deepen the color a bit and add some sheen. Its not a coating. Its actually just a sealer for terrazzo, that legacy came up with this process to apply to concrete, which is only effective after a burnish.

2. After waiting over a week, I Applied HD37 by myself with garden sprayer and 15" microfiber mop. I used about 7.5 gallons on my 2900 ish sq ft. Just sprayed it as heavy i i could without leaving any puddles after i worked it in.

3. I applied HD40 Thurday, 7 days later. Im got 2 coats with 7 gallons of HD40 I went ahead and ordered a 24" microfiber mop off amazon, because its a slow boring as job. It definitely helped. First coat was tough, 2nd coat went down much easier.

4. I ordered hogs hairs pads from legacy and lined up a rental 20" high speed burnisher from a local rental place for tomorrow morning.

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Densifier down -which basically seems like spraying water out of a garden sprayer and using the microfiber mop to work it in.

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Got a helper and 2 coats of HD40 Stainguard down today. What a difference! Its got a really nice sheen to it already, after a couple hours of drying. Ive gotta go pick up the 20" high speed burnisher from the rental house and Ill attack it in the morning. Excited to see where it goes from here!

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About how long did (1) coat take to spray out and mop in? I'm making the assumption that the densifier and the sealer both take the same amount of time.

Lookin' good!
 
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About how long did (1) coat take to spray out and mop in? I'm making the assumption that the densifier and the sealer both take the same amount of time.

Lookin' good!

No, both products go on completely different. I put the HD37 on by myself 1 coat. It took maybe 2.5 hours. Imagine spraying water and spreading.

I got a helper to use the pump sprayer for the HD40 while i worked it in. I also purchased a 24" microfiber mop head to speed the job up. They key with HD40 is to not let the guy spraying get ahead of you at all. It tacks up in a couple seconds, and if you wait to long to work in it feels like glue. The first coat of HD40 was the definitely the toughest. The 2nd coat of HD40 went on super smooth in most parts and used about 1/3 as much to cover and not puddle. I did end up with some visible mop strokes in the finished floor but they don't really bother me too bad. Not really sure why that happened.

Definitely some sore ribs and shoulders moping 2900 sq feet 3X by yourself. I could not have applied the HD40 by myself without a helper... It flashes too quick.

The Burnishing is really easy, but just a slow process. Not labor intensive just repetitive.

Ill post some finished pics...
 

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Wow.... that's about the closest look you are going to get to polished concrete. Well done!
 

AuroraSC

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Thanks Purdue - The gal and I used a floor polisher with a brush attachment and a power washer with some degreaser to clean the floors last night. We used a squeegee to funnel standing water towards the doors/floor drain. It was a solid 4-hour project.

I'll try to get the densifier down one night this week and then do the HD40 with a helper this weekend.

Thanks again for the help!
 
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chadwick02

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That Looks amazing.
Your expectations as to how it will wear overtime?

I have a 3 bay bay here in the northeast, new concrete poured and lightly power troweled about 5 weeks ago. My plan is to do a brown acid stain over it - just something a little different, but choosing a sealer is absolutely killing me. SOoooo many options ive been researching it for weeks! And just when I think i've made up my mind I find something else that seems like it might be better.

How would you expect this to hold up in an "upscale working garage"? My main concern is abrasion - from parking cars in the building and typical foot traffic in and out. Paved driveway we keep it as clean as we can, but there always seems to be sand and grit on our feet.

As this coating gets worn away, is it easy to reapply as needed, or will it require some pretty substantial mechanical removal and re-installation?

Thanks!
Chad
 

LegacyIndustrial

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That Looks amazing.
Your expectations as to how it will wear overtime?

I have a 3 bay bay here in the northeast, new concrete poured and lightly power troweled about 5 weeks ago. My plan is to do a brown acid stain over it - just something a little different, but choosing a sealer is absolutely killing me. SOoooo many options ive been researching it for weeks! And just when I think i've made up my mind I find something else that seems like it might be better.

How would you expect this to hold up in an "upscale working garage"? My main concern is abrasion - from parking cars in the building and typical foot traffic in and out. Paved driveway we keep it as clean as we can, but there always seems to be sand and grit on our feet.

As this coating gets worn away, is it easy to reapply as needed, or will it require some pretty substantial mechanical removal and re-installation?

Thanks!
Chad



Chad, these products would not be appropriate over acid stained concrete. The acid etches the floor dissipating it’s smooth/closed finish. Look to our HD6525mma for this application, SEC Sealer or Nohr-s Polyurea.


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Jking24

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*** Don’t buy this ****, its performance has been terrible***

Here's my process:

1. Clean Slab as good as you can get it, depends on what you are starting with. I scrubbed dirty parts with a push broom, hosed and squeegee and wasn't happy with it. So i borrowed and industrial floor scrubber, still not clean enough for me.... so in the end i just power washed my whole slab and squeegee dry. If your not happy with how your floor looks when its wet/ dampish i would keep cleaning. All the chemicals are going to do is deepen the color a bit and add some sheen. Its not a coating. Its actually just a sealer for terrazzo, that legacy came up with this process to apply to concrete, which is only effective after a burnish.

2. After waiting over a week, I Applied HD37 by myself with garden sprayer and 15" microfiber mop. I used about 7.5 gallons on my 2900 ish sq ft. Just sprayed it as heavy i i could without leaving any puddles after i worked it in.

3. I applied HD40 Thurday, 7 days later. Im got 2 coats with 7 gallons of HD40 I went ahead and ordered a 24" microfiber mop off amazon, because its a slow boring as job. It definitely helped. First coat was tough, 2nd coat went down much easier.

4. I ordered hogs hairs pads from legacy and lined up a rental 20" high speed burnisher from a local rental place for tomorrow morning.

Before Pressure wash...

View media item 76463
View media item 76464

Densifier down -which basically seems like spraying water out of a garden sprayer and using the microfiber mop to work it in.

View media item 77605
View media item 77606

Got a helper and 2 coats of HD40 Stainguard down today. What a difference! Its got a really nice sheen to it already, after a couple hours of drying. Ive gotta go pick up the 20" high speed burnisher from the rental house and Ill attack it in the morning. Excited to see where it goes from here!

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Care to elaborate on your first sentence "don't buy this ****" I'm very interested in its durability over time
 

LegacyIndustrial

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Care to elaborate on your first sentence "don't buy this ****" I'm very interested in its durability over time



Purdue, no matter which product you choose, match the product to the application.

If your expectation is High Performance, then select a High Performance product.

I think this application was a mis-match. High Expectations vs. a low-performance product.




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PurdueSD

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Purdue, no matter which product you choose, match the product to the application.

If your expectation is High Performance, then select a High Performance product.

I think this application was a mis-match. High Expectations vs. a low-performance product.




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Should i screenshot the email where i gave you my uses and you recommended this product?
 

windsurf88

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I'd be interested in what it didn't do well also. I'm getting to the point I need to seal the floor in my new building. I will be using the shop as a shop and want something that looks good and holds up fairly well Thanks, Jason
 
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