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Got these pieces in a recent lot and haven't been able to find much info on them yet. Wondering if anybody knows more about them here.
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"1/8-C" punch(?)
Mystery tool with roller bearing(1/4 opening)
"1/4 B&D-VD" 4 flute punch
Brass ruler, part of caliper(?)
"J. M. Waterston Detroit" pry bar/bottle opener(?)
FRB in shield "Pat. Oct. '21 No. 3/2 1/4 .3" punch(?)
 
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The item in the lower right of the photo ground to a point appears to be from a stamping die. I say this because of the concave shape on the shank. Those would likely be for a "Ball Lock" type of punch and were/are fairly common and unique. When a punch goes beyond service life they often get re-purposed as a center punch or small chisel by toolmakers rather than throw them out.

The small 1/8" C punch could (maybe) also be a used up stamping punch if the head has been ground down to body diameter.
 
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RoninB4 said:
The item in the lower right of the photo ground to a point appears to be from a stamping die. I say this because of the concave shape on the shank. Those would likely be for a "Ball Lock" type of punch and were/are fairly common and unique. When a punch goes beyond service life they often get re-purposed as a center punch or small chisel by toolmakers rather than throw them out.

The small 1/8" C punch could (maybe) also be a used up stamping punch if the head has been ground down to body diameter.
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Looks like you're right on the bottom right. Also had some "headed" punches I thought were just machined custom order(laser engraved but didn't bring up any results) in the lot which I now know slightly more about thanks to you.

Didn't see any like the 1/8-C in the quick Google search but it'd make sense as well.
 
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Also found the pry bar thing (or rather what it was part of). It's a tack puller that was mounted on the back end of a tack hammer. Got stuck thinking it would've been mounted to a cabinet or something like a bottle opener but found a hammer with it then from there a whole page of examples came up.

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Vintage J M WATERSTON Magnetic Tack Hammer with Tack Puller DETROIT | eBay

<p>Vintage J.M. WATERSTON Magnetic Tack Hammer with Tack Puller, DETROIT. Condition is used. See pictures for details on the condition. Shipped USPS Priority.</p>
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RTM said:
Your brass ruler probably came out of something like this folding wooden ruler, bottom of page

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J. M. Waterston : Tools for the Plasterer, Bricklayer, Plumber, Cementworker, Stonecutter, Marbleworker, Tilesetter, Paperhanger : Catalogue No. 52 : J.M. Waterston : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

100 p., illus., 14.6 cm, trade catalog
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Didn’t see your tack puller in here, but that was my original guess.
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Looks like you're right. Might have the housing for it too but if so it's in a bucket of rulers in the shop so I'll have to look.

Didn't see any tack hammers in the catalog at all but I don't have the rest of the hammer so finding an estimate on age or anything isn't a priority.
 
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Jacobs976 said:
Looks like you're right. Might have the housing for it too but if so it's in a bucket of rulers in the shop so I'll have to look.

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those were often tagged to be a pair, so look for a number stamped out of sight on the slider (I.e. 34), and the matching number on the body, should make the slide work better. Assuming hand fit back then.
 
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RTM said:
those were often tagged to be a pair, so look for a number stamped out of sight on the slider (I.e. 34), and the matching number on the body, should make the slide work better. Assuming hand fit back then.
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Found the body(assuming it's the right one, might be more but I didn't dig around and this housing is missing the piece) so I'll have to clean it up and see if it's a match.

Also slider is marked 49 at the 5 inch mark. Thought it was potentially a date code before.
 
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Doesn’t look like 49 was a Stanley model number with a slider.

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Boxwood and Ivory : Philip Stanley : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

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Housing is a Lufkin. Needs more work before any number can be found to try matching though.
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>> this is curious>> FRB in shield "Pat. Oct. '21 No. 3/2 1/4 .3" punch(?) << anything else there?
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FRB in shield(letters fused together)
Pat. Oct. '21
No. 3/2 1/4(1/4 in vertical orientation)
.3

That's all in full orientation.
 
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Lufkin is a Boxwood No. 372 but no go on a match. Slide is bigger by maybe 1/16. Guess the guy that had them before me had an issue with slides.
 
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