Mystery Sockets? Need Identified

[Derek420]

I bought a shoe box size box of sockets last night, and well guy said there we're some snap on sockets in the box and well he was full of shat to say the lease but was some Williams and craftsman and some Mac xperts if Im right and on that one and some fleet as well but all other ones we're imports mainly all say Japan and nothing else but size but feel nice but to the scrap bin they go and these sockets which are in question and I'd say are very old but there is no coo or makers marks just size and knurling the ones with lllll knurling are 1/2 hex and the rest with xxxxx knurling 1/2 square one set has it around top other bottom. Would like to figure out who made them but I'm sure they are trash and plan on tossing them matter of fact just took them out of trash bag but anyways all have same finish which looks like an old chain link fence zinc or something here's pics. If someone wants them they're yours as I got 2000 sockets as it is

 

[Derek420]

There's 18 total 1/4 hex 1 3/8 hex along with the 1/2 hex drive ones

 

[CoogarXR]

There's a set of those at a local flea market too. No name on them, and with that odd hex-drive, I always wondered what they were.

 

[ChaseDE]

sherman-klove (SK) in the second pic?

 

[four.cycle]

Derek, it's possible some of those may have been manufactured by Duro Metal Products / Indestro in Chicago.
Take a look HERE: http://alloy-artifacts.org/duro-indestro-p3.html#early-sets
(scroll down a ways and you'll see some that look very similar.)
It's possible they may have been manufactured by some other US tool manufacturer - you would need to look through the photos at Alloy-Artifacts.org and see if you can find an exact match.
Things to look for are the type and pattern of the knurling at the base of the socket, and the way the sizes are stamped. Some are stamped as we are currently used to seeing fractions expressed (i.e., " 3/4 ") - some are stamped "old school" like this: " 3 - 4 ". Some are stamped with one number over the other with a horizontal line between.
Other indicators are symbols: stars (Indestro), trapezoids ("D" shapes) (again, Indestro) or dots alongside the size numbers (as one of yours above appears to have.)

It is also possible they may be Japan-made knock-offs, which were quite common from the early 1950's up into the late 1960's (i.e., "Orion".)

The plating might well be zinc (or "cad" plating). Probably zinc - it's cheap.

It's also possible somebody out there might be collecting them. How many pounds do you have and what would it cost to ship them? You could always try peddling them on Ebay in one lot - somebody will buy them if the price is right.

 

[ChaseDE]

SK had a dot on either side, in the second pic it looks like there are 2 dots stacked, looking like a colon > : < next to the number though.

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[Toothaker]

I will take them! Let me know how to pay for shipping.

 

[four.cycle]

It's also possible somebody out there might be collecting them.

^ don't toss out tools. somebody somewhere wants them.

 

[thehorse13]

Believe it or not, I like Williams tools better than the more well known Snap-On product line.

Because Snap-On and Williams (along will other lesser known brands such as CDI) are made by the same company, sometimes people will refer to Williams tools as Snap-On.

In any case, you're pulling some good stuff lately. Keep it up!

 

[Derek420]

Oh don't get me wrong I love Williams I have a bunch and some a couple metric sets of their Hornet line that are rare and a heck of a find as they are minty. Also at the same sale I got a Williams *********** C camp I'd say 11-12" for $5 and never seen one also they had 2 Williams adjustable wrenches for $3 each but passed. Did buy a Snap On sv71a ratchet that is mint for $12 I know they are super common and made for 40 years but price and condition was well, mines a 1965 I think but no date stamp.I love the Williams kobalt tools I have bought all I've found but can't find a 3/8 ratchet.. Anyone find one pick it up for me I'll pay $25 plus shipping. Also looking for IH weight tools.

 

[Derek420]

The sockets all together weight 2 1/2 pounds to the person that wants them. I don't normally his rid of tools it's just I got so many sockets 2000ish I am out of room.

 

[Derek420]

Thanks Horse I tend to find a lot of the lesser known brand tools because places to shop are limited and I live in a big city so people pick through a lot before I get to it as I only go once a week but they always leave the gems.
These sockets are Duro for sure and are thier economy carbon manganese type which were pre ww2 and sold in a set for about 1.50 digging in my garage I found the ratchet to match that would have came with but missing the L wrench which I may have one in my hoard as I remember seeing them. I collect tools made from 70's onward and some 60's and I also use them but I also have new snap on tools as in ratchets as I prefer new ones when doing engine work or suspension work that may damage a tool because I can't warranty my old tools. I bought my 1/2 Hornet sockets to use but can't bring myself to doing it because of scarcity and condition of them so I put them in my curio. I'm a fairly lucky guy when it cones to finding tools in great shape and rare and also dirt cheap other than my used ratchets for under $15 I haven't paid more than $5 for a tool and usually spent $1 each or $5 a box full of tools I pick I have never lost money on tools that's for sure even power tools I've bought dirt cheap and all my tools are good USA made truck/industrial brand tools.