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I'm trying to figure out if this is ash or pine... a guy was supposed to come today to tell me what I had but didn't show.

I know with practice you woodworker types can take a look at the grain and tell me :)
 

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wipe it with mineral spirits or water and show a picture. the 3rd pic resembles Southern yellow pine. seeing how it looks wet will help determine
 

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I'm going to say pine as well.....especially by how the end grain looks in the second pic.....Ash and other harder woods would have a much tighter end grain.
 

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It is pine. Maybe S. Yellow pine, but yellow pine hasn't been readily available for some time. But that does look old.

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looks like pine to me. Ash is hard, pine is soft.

Shows how much I know about wood... I was thinking ash was soft. It's definitely soft wood. Chances are it's pine.

So... anyone want to buy 8000 square feet of ship lap 3/4" pine? :)

Thanks guys for the help!
 

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Sure looks like a softwood (pine, fir, hemlock, etc) from here and not a hardwood (ash).

And an FYI, hardwood versus softwood does NOT refer to the actual 'hardness' of the wood.

And the grain 'tightness' has more to do with the growth rate and growth conditions of the wood/tree then whether it is a hardwood or a softwood.

btw, just WHY are you trying to figure out what species that cupped piece of wood is?
 

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I vote Pine as well, ash wouldn't have near the grain variations
 
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Sure looks like a softwood (pine, fir, hemlock, etc) from here and not a hardwood (ash).

And an FYI, hardwood versus softwood does NOT refer to the actual 'hardness' of the wood.

And the grain 'tightness' has more to do with the growth rate and growth conditions of the wood/tree then whether it is a hardwood or a softwood.

btw, just WHY are you trying to figure out what species that cupped piece of wood is?

Because I have 8000 square feet of it and trying to determine the value and how careful I should be removing it. :)
 

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Looks a bit like cedar. Not Ash for sure.

I just read the above. If it's flooring cedar would be too soft. There are on line companies that sell reclaimed wood. You might take a look there to see if what you have looks like what they have. Also get an idea what it's worth.
 
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Ash is very white in most cases. You would not be able to mark ash with a finger nail. base ball bats are mostly ash. Looks like a rare old pine species to me as well.
 

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I would say fir, cedar could be pine, some times there are small knots, definitely not ash the end grain is too porous.
 
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It's pine.....maybe cedar (I'd say 90% pine) this coming from a high school woodworking teacher of 32 years..... As someone said, Hardwood and softwood designation has nothing to do with how hard or soft a wood is. Hardwoods are from deciduous trees (trees which lose their leaves in the fall) Softwoods are from coniferous trees (what most people call 'evergreens" or cone bearing) I've seen some yellow pine that was hard as a rock, but that doesn't make it a hardwood.
 
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Does this involve an old barn dying a slow, painful death?
 
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Does this involve an old barn dying a slow, painful death?

Nope. :) These boards are all not original to the barn and were added 30-40 years ago. They added an ADDITIONAL two floors to the barn (40x100).

The barn is being repurposed and all the original structure with the exception of the first floor, whose wood I'm keeping, will remain the same.
 

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Awesome. Do you have a thread about this? Some of us are obsessed with old barns, you know!
 

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Pine. Ash has a grain more like oak, is more flexible(Indians made bows from ash) and is whiter, no yellowish tint to it like that piece.

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I was going to vote for heart pine, but when you said it's only 30-40 years old, that rules out the good stuff. Old pine has a very distinct smell when milled. Fir can look the same, but will smell different.
 

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Shows how much I know about wood... I was thinking ash was soft. It's definitely soft wood. Chances are it's pine.

So... anyone want to buy 8000 square feet of ship lap 3/4" pine? :)

Thanks guys for the help!


not good timing....I would love to have 1500 feet or so.. I had started restoring a barn(before economy went south) Hopefully, someday I will need some for the old hay mow floor.. What are you asking?
 

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Reminds me of a joke I heard;

A Carpenter walks into a local corner bar for a beer, he was told about a blind man who stops in every day, who could tell any type of wood by just smelling it.
Just then, the Blind man enters the bar.
The carpenter is so impressed about what he had heard, that he challenges the blind man to a contest.
The Blind man agrees. The rules are simple...The carpenter will lay out 5 pieces of wood on the bar, the Blind man can not touch the wood. he can only smell it before he tells everyone the type of wood that it is.
The Carpenter first lays out a piece of Red Cedar...One sniff..."Easy, Red Cedar" says the Blind man.
Then the carpenter puts down a Piece of Pine...One sniff..."Simple...Pine" says the Blind man.
Next goes down a plank of Oak...Two sniffs..."Oak" says the Blind man.
Next he lays down a piece of Ash...Three long sniffs..."Ash" says the Blind man.
Frustrated and amazed, the Carpenter walks up to a young lady sitting at the end of the bar and whispers something to her. She looks, smiles and agrees. "Shhhh" he says.
She undresses, and climbs up on the bar and lays down face up in front of the Blind man.
The Carpenter asks..."How about this one?"
The Blind man leans in...Three, Four long sniffs...But sits straight up, confused!
He asks, "Can you turn this piece over for me?"
So the young lady slowly flips over and lays down, Checks up.
"OK" says the Carpenter... "There ya go."
The Blind man leans in again and takes two long sniffs, and again straightens up, bewildered!
"I'm not quite sure on this one" The Blind man says, "The closest thing that I can come up with is....The Sh!thouse Door on a Tuna Boat!"
 

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That looks to be an aged piece of Ponderosa pine. #2 and better. I handled thousands of board feet of that stuff when I worked in the lumber yard for 8 years. I would estimate that you might be able to ask about $0.50 - 1.00 a lineal foot since the boards are used. Lots of people buy to use as paneling or ceilings on covered porch.
 
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Hardwoods are from deciduous trees (trees which lose their leaves in the fall) Softwoods are from coniferous trees (what most people call 'evergreens" or cone bearing)

Oh my....how can you be so wrong?

There are a LOT of soft deciduous trees....like soft maple and poplar
 
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