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njc41980

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Looking for a recommendation for a bulletproof long-handle flex ratchet in 1/2" drive.

I don't use impacts much, so I end up really reafing on the end of my long-handle ratchet a lot.

I don't think my old Craftsman is going to last much longer. I'm worried that it's going to break and hurt something.
 
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You are going to get a lot of suggestions, what do you expect to spend / what is your limit?
 

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Snap-on SLF80A is pretty tough. 24” length.

Downside is the $218 list price.
 
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njc41980

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I know that Snap-On is considered the best, but is it really the strongest? And do I really need to spend that much to get a tough ratchet?

I definitely want a long (24"ish) length.

Last night it took everything I had in my 250 lbs to get the bolts loose on my pickup sway bar brackets. Not sure how much torque we're talking about, but when I've got a 24" bar and my legs wedged against one wheel and it still takes everything I've got with the ratchet starting to bend, it's a lot of force.

I want something that I can really reaf on and not worry that it's going to break.
 
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If you’re doing lots of nut busting I would invest in a Milwaukee 2763 or the newer style. Even the HF pro impact sockets are pretty good for the money.

Most tool companies aren’t comfortable putting a 24” tool on their head internals or flex joint. Snap-On is and that’s why that ratchet really doesn’t have much completion. Perhaps a breaker bar followed up with an 16-18” flex 1/2” ratchet would have been best for your most recent situation. There are lots of 24” breaker bars out there. If you’re a tool snob like me you’ll want to look at an SK breaker bar for $95 on Amazon or a used Snappy unit on eBay or something. If you just want a tool that works, the HF 24” breaker bar for $20 before coupon has shown to hold its own with the premium brands.

Personally I would probably go the used SLF80A route but the HF breaker bar with a quality flex ratchet after that is also a good option. Of course, the impact route is the way to go but they don’t always fit.
 

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Snapon s77 is found cheap on eBay, turn your already owned breakers into ratchets. Down side is depth, it is a big combo - not for tight confines. I don't do much heavy duty work, but it has come in handy. a2f6e93b7724ebee01a698c20a9f1d2e.jpg

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I guess I’ll be the odd man out. Snap on ratchet’s are smooth and refined, no doubt. I love mine. However when I think beastly I think about my Proto ratchet (item #J5450 IIRC). I got it several years ago in an industrial finish it’s maybe 14 or 16 inches long but it’s definitely a beast. It’s the one I would use when I want maximum strength in a ratchet.

Best part is you can buy them all day long well under $60
 
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I know that Snap-On is considered the best, but is it really the strongest? And do I really need to spend that much to get a tough ratchet?

I definitely want a long (24"ish) length.

Last night it took everything I had in my 250 lbs to get the bolts loose on my pickup sway bar brackets. Not sure how much torque we're talking about, but when I've got a 24" bar and my legs wedged against one wheel and it still takes everything I've got with the ratchet starting to bend, it's a lot of force.

I want something that I can really reaf on and not worry that it's going to break.

Sounds like a good way to hurt your back over not just grabbing an impact.

Work smarter not harder
 

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summit sells a nice 24 " ratchet I believe with a lifetime warranty forget the brand off the top of my head but it seems to work well
 

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Everyone knows that Snap-On makes the best ratchets, no question. The SLF80A is king for what you want.

Another good option if you’re okay with it being shorter is this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00061SNFM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Or you could buy 3-4 HF long flex 1/2” ratchets but you won’t get any girls doing that.

The SK is nice, but the heads get floppy at the hinge in no time. Proto offers a long flex ratchet with the Facom fine tooth head in it, which has a hinge screw that you can tighten
 

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Snap-on SLF80A is pretty tough. 24” length.

Downside is the $218 list price.

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OP, look for a used one. I bought my first one new, but I bought a second one for home off of eBay for $120
 

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I know that Snap-On is considered the best, but is it really the strongest? And do I really need to spend that much to get a tough ratchet?

I definitely want a long (24"ish) length.

Last night it took everything I had in my 250 lbs to get the bolts loose on my pickup sway bar brackets. Not sure how much torque we're talking about, but when I've got a 24" bar and my legs wedged against one wheel and it still takes everything I've got with the ratchet starting to bend, it's a lot of force.

I want something that I can really reaf on and not worry that it's going to break.

I've had mine for over 10 years still smooth as the day I bought it. Used it multiple times to remove and install Dodge 1 ton and 3/4 ton ball joints using a cheater bar with no problems.

I would also recommend the Comfort grip one.
 

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As someone else said already-----you need a breaker bar if you're cranking on them that hard. If I was going to use a ratchet as a breaker bar, I'd buy cheap ones since I don't like to abuse good tools.

OTOH----since you are using a Craftsman, if you break it, they'll replace it for you anyway under their lifetime warrenty, so that's probably the right brand to abuse!
 
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Snap-on rated these ratchets at 700 lb-ft. There was a pdf file from Snap-on with the info, but I can’t find it now. The old links no longer work.


I wouldn't get one with a flex head for serious cranking.
 

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I have 3 15 inch 1/2 ratchets. SK, Williams (snap on 936), and a Proto. I'm 265 lbs and hung off the end of the proto. All are tough as nails. I also picked up a 3 piece set of extra long flexhead ratchets on Amazon. There made by titan and the 24" is pretty damn good for the money.

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I know that Snap-On is considered the best, but is it really the strongest? And do I really need to spend that much to get a tough ratchet?

I definitely want a long (24"ish) length.

Last night it took everything I had in my 250 lbs to get the bolts loose on my pickup sway bar brackets. Not sure how much torque we're talking about, but when I've got a 24" bar and my legs wedged against one wheel and it still takes everything I've got with the ratchet starting to bend, it's a lot of force.

I want something that I can really reaf on and not worry that it's going to break.

No. Snap on ratchets are nothing special when it comes to strength. I've seen my co workers warranty their dual 80 ratchets at least two times in the last 2 years. One of the two cases was with a 24" dual 80 flex head after fighting a seized bolt and I remember asking whether or not he used a cheater pipe and the answer was no. I had to use a cheater pipe on my princess auto 25" flex head ratchet 2 times on a seized bolt to break it.

https://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/1-2-in-dr-extra-long-flex-head-ratchet/A-p8728388e

But bottom line, if you use a 1/2 ratchet on a job intended for a 3/4 ratchet or bar, it will break.
 
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I disagree. A ratchet can be just as strong as a breaker bar. In fact, long 24"+ ratchets are often called breaker bars... You have to consider the weak points which is usually the anvil. The ratchet mechanism vs. no ratchet mechanism is usually a moot point. All the force is on the anvil, the weak point, and that will break first. A ratchet also allows you to readjust, a breaker bar can't do that.

I don't understand the mentality of not wanting to use expensive tools (or "abuse" depending on your situation or definition of abuse). Yeah, Snap On tools are beautiful, but they are meant to be used. I don't buy tools to be displayed, I buy them to use them. I'm also one of those guys who will wipe down my tools after a job with a dry rag, but I don't go beyond that. I don't care if they get dirty, because again, they are meant to be used. I only care if they are wet with oil or some form of fluid, especially ATF or brake fluid.

Tools have warranties for a reason. Use the damn tool. If they break, use the damn warranty. Which brings me to my next rant...

As for Craftsman, I don't trust them nor will I ever buy another Craftsman tool. But more important all the Sears stores in my state are closed and gone, the only place you'll find Craftsman are Lowes and Ace. They have limited stock and a questionable warranty process. And you don't know what you'll get if you do use the warranty. Will it be the same tool you are trying to warranty? Probably not. Will it be an inferior and even cheaper version? Most definitely.

I agree. All my good stuff gets used. It cleans up well too and I wipe down my tools. All my pretty snap on and Facom stuff is well used. And still kickin hard
 

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I have another beast ratchet, but not cheap. Cornwell SRF76L chrome handle flex 27-3/8". Used it a few times so far and I love it, flex ratchets are a new thing to me especially all 10 lbs of one lol but it's nice to cheat by eliminating extensions in some cases using flex to angle ratchet head into recesses or against a flat.

if I felt sketched out by the flex I also have a Snap-On SLL80A two foot long fixed head, and a 24" breaker bar if I need it. And an 18" breaker. 17" std length flex. And two 15" fixed plus some std length.
 

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I was on a budget and I have these two and have not had a problem.

Performance Tool W32180 - older 36 tooth is what I have but they have a newer 108 tooth version that has the selector that is normal direction on/off $44.99
You can get them at Oreilly Auto

OEMTOOLS 22921 17-1/2 Inch 1/2 Inch Drive Ratchet with Long Handle and Flexible Head 36 tooth at @ $35
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXTKY9K/?tag=atomicindus08-20
You might be able to get this at AutoZone and see what their price is or if they will price match.

I like both for what they are and if you have issues you might be going to the corresponding Auto parts store or have a parts driver that can deliver.

However, I really want to get one of the Carlyle Ratchet Teardrop Extra Long 1/2" Carlyle Hand Tools part CHT R12L90

Or the one on sale for $75.99 Teardrop Flex Locking, 1/2" Carlyle Ratchet
Part #: CHT R12LFQR
 

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I like my 15" Wright tool, 1/2" ratchet with the contour handle. I find it fits good in my hand.

Wright tool # 4494
 

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Warranties are great and all that, but what do you do on your current project once you break your ratchet? Shut down for the day/week? Guess you need two $250 ratchets.
I will continue to use my impact gun and breaker bars first.
 

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I can get two Tekton long 1/2 drive ratchets rated at 560 foot lbs for $90 ($45 each) that way if one fails, I'll have a spare while their great customer services warranties the broken one. :beer:

https://www.tekton.com/long-ratchets

However, if it's a beastly ratchet you're looking for, i would look at Tekton's 3/4 drive model that's about 22 inches long and rated at 1000 ft lbs for $65. :bounce:

https://www.tekton.com/ratchets?quantity=1&drive-size=3-4-in

Did i mention that if you register on Tekton.com you get free shipping on all orders and bonus points? :thumbup:
 

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I'm in, as I have an SHLF80A along with a 30" Cornwell breaker bar that can somewhat move the world it seems. I use that with a custom 1 1/4 deep socket to remove packing glands & shaft retainer plugs on orifice changers.
 
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njc41980

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Thanks everyone for the replies.

I'd like to get a Snap-On, and likely will one of these days when I can find a hard handle red one to match my smaller ratchets.

In the mean time I think I'm going to take advantage of that Carlile sale. Looks a little longer than my Craftsman and being a non-flex might make it a little more confidence inspiring.

I also might think about getting that big Tekton breaker bar.

A 3/4" breaker at 38" long ought to make life a little easier in me and tougher on those bolts.
 

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Good luck on the Carlyle - Seems to not be many left around with the sale.

On that note I am pretty impressed with the tekton 90 tooth for the budget option. They have the service to back it up as well.
 

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If you need a flex head then that's what's gonna fail first.

All reputable brands have extremely durable drive lug alloys and a pawl design strong enough to shear that lug.

The pivot is what fails. I've seen broken pivot shlf 80s and many Proto with the simple friction pin. SK improved their design with a threaded bolt.

By far the strongest flex head i've used is the Apex designed Matco/Armstrong flex heads. They simply have more mass on the fork.
 

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Thanks everyone for the replies.

I'd like to get a Snap-On, and likely will one of these days when I can find a hard handle red one to match my smaller ratchets.

In the mean time I think I'm going to take advantage of that Carlile sale. Looks a little longer than my Craftsman and being a non-flex might make it a little more confidence inspiring.

I also might think about getting that big Tekton breaker bar.

A 3/4" breaker at 38" long ought to make life a little easier in me and tougher on those bolts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Snap-on-1-...645659?hash=item261034b01b:g:NQgAAOSwqLRcN6TM
 
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