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Tawn

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I am looking to replace a low, builders grade toilet with something better.

I am looking for a chair height toilet capable of flushing children and small farm animals without clogging.

Seriously, years ago on HGTV I remember an advertisement that claimed a certain make and model could flush a dozen golf balls but I don't recall what is was.

Any plumbers have a recommendation?

Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas.
 
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Just installed a Kohler Cimmaron. I think that's the spelling. About $200 from Lowe's. It's managed to remove, anything my meat, potatoes, and cheese diet has asked of it. Going to put one in the upstairs bathroom when I remodel it
 

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I replaced all my toilets with Toto units. I think it has been 4 years and have not had any problems. While you are replacing the toilets I would suggest taking a look at replacing the shut off valve as well.
 

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What you're looking for is the "American Standard Champion 4 Max".

It holds the "record" for 29 golf balls in a single flush! And is that "comfort height" that all us old-farts like!!!
 

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I remodeled my bathroom and decided to get a nice Kohler. I've had it for 4 years now. It looks nice, but the plastic soft close seat is a weird shape and was uncomfortable. The seat got replaced with a flatter style. The toilet itself has a "shelf" in the bowl where everything gets hung up on. Bad design. I put my faith in Kohler that they had their stuff figured out, but was wrong. The inner workings of the top tank broke for no reason also. AND found out that you can't get the parts at your local Home Depot. I will look at Toto next time.
 

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Just installed a Kohler Cimmaron. I think that's the spelling. About $200 from Lowe's. It's managed to remove, anything my meat, potatoes, and cheese diet has asked of it. Going to put one in the upstairs bathroom when I remodel it

I'll second the cimmaron I installed a few about 8 yrs ago and had no issues yet. I think the bigger flapper helps get it moving
 

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I bought a Toto Drake II about two years ago. I bought it online from National Builder Supply (because of their toilet packaging methods) and installed it myself. It was made in the USA, too.

It has only been clogged once and all it took to clear was a couple more flushes.

The Toto Drake (not the Drake II) has a supposedly slightly stronger flush than the Drake II, but I liked some of the other features of the Drake II like the Double Cyclone flushing system.

It works great, but they aren't cheap. I paid $325. That's still a bargain compared to buying it locally or having a pro install it.

The Kohler Cimarron mentioned earlier in this thread has a lot of complaints about bowl cleaning.

Other options would be some of the higher-end Gerber models, which you could buy at your local plumbing supply house.

Another USA made option is the Mansfield Summit 3 available at Menards and other places.

American Standard has a couple decent options. They're made in Mexico and there are QC complaints on some forums.
 
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steve308

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I have the Jacuzzi toilet --- You have to work hard to clog it! (Lowes was where I purchased them)
 
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Apparently, the OP might need a cruise ship toilet.

Lol...I just want to be able to throw away my plunger :thumb up:

Thanks for all the feedback guys - looks like I have some good choices as a starting point.
 

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Just installed a Kohler Cimmaron. I think that's the spelling. About $200 from Lowe's. It's managed to remove, anything my meat, potatoes, and cheese diet has asked of it. Going to put one in the upstairs bathroom when I remodel it

Agree, good buy for the price. I've purchased two of these 1 1/2 years apart. Flush great, nice height. no problems.
 

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I have a few different brands and the Kohler is the one we use when we know it's going to be a big one. Mine is the old time styled one that the plumbing supply place had on clearance.
 
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Just installed a Kohler Cimmaron. I think that's the spelling. About $200 from Lowe's. It's managed to remove, anything my meat, potatoes, and cheese diet has asked of it. Going to put one in the upstairs bathroom when I remodel it

I'll second the cimmaron I installed a few about 8 yrs ago and had no issues yet. I think the bigger flapper helps get it moving

Agree, good buy for the price. I've purchased two of these 1 1/2 years apart. Flush great, nice height. no problems.

Another vote for the Cimmaron. Replaced the builders grade in my old house with one, and when I moved to this house the first purchase was two new Cimmarons to replace the builders grade here. They clog occasionally, but nothing like the small opening builder grades.

Probably not as high end as some of the other suggestions, but you can get them for $150 all day.
 

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A few years ago I replaced my mom's toilet with what HD told me was a 4" model it worked so well and she like the height of it she wanted one for her private bathroom. But I don't remember the brand
 

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This is an important decision and I am sure that there are differing opinions, that are all based on sound logic. I would suggest whatever you decide, you give strong consideration to selecting a model with suitable stirrups.

My brother, who is a professional when it comes to unloaders, has a 18" straight pipe model that he swears is unclogable. He has destroyed most of the name brand models and has his current selection was custom made with an industrial garbage disposal integrated into the main line.

He also sported a model that had a built in chain saw but.....it did not hold up and it was difficult to start the chain saw after a bad gas attack. The noise was also a distraction to his concentration during some of his sessions.

Yes, the section process is arduous at best and the only other advice that I can offer is to be sure to try out your selection prior to purchase. Climb up on the display, settle in for a good session and then you will have a much better understanding as to the models capabilities. If everyone is applauding after you finish, then you might have the right unit.
 

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We put in a new Kohler, and that sumbitch will swallow anything first time around. The contractor cheap toilets would always plug. The new Kohler has yet to plug.
 

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Actually lol'd at "children and small farm animals".

I'm not as picky about flush power, but dang I hate those short toilet bowls. I was trying to explain this to my wife a few years ago when we were having a house built. I told her the short bowls sort of cramp your style. I got to the part where I explained that in extreme circumstances I've gone so far as to hoist my junk up and lay it on my leg... she cut me off and told me to just get whatever toilets I needed.
 

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... I explained that in extreme circumstances I've gone so far as to hoist my junk up and lay it on my leg... ....

Now that's just braggin'! :thumbup:

I have two Kohler's, one round and one elongated bowl, that were $100 each at HD. They are fantastic compared to the old 4-gpf POS's that were in the house. Never any plugs or backwash. If you need something more powerful, you aren't eating enough fiber...
 

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I got to the part where I explained that in extreme circumstances I've gone so far as to hoist my junk up and lay it on my leg... she cut me off and told me to just get whatever toilets I needed.

Brag all you want here but your wife knows the short story
 

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Money not being an issue toto toilets are nice. I personally have a Kohler and it's been uncloggable for 4 years and is great. Do not buy American standard as I put these in our last home and had to plunge weekly. If our standards are that low we are screwed
 

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Toto Drake II.

Uses 1.2g per flush.

Quiet.

And so easy to clean. It doesn't have the issue with 'stuff' collecting right under the edge.

I bought mine from Amazon. Free shipping....and yes, it made it to me in one piece.
 

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I have toto toilets in both bathrooms. Very happy with them, if it's # 1 a quick flip flushes just enough to clear the bowl; #2, hold the lever a little longer to give it a full flush. Haven't needed the closet snake since I've put these in.
 

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I worked for Kohler for many years, so I'm biased. I would tell you that as a replacement - the Cimarron has the largest "Footprint" which will cover the existing toilets marks into the floor tile- a nice thing many don't think about when buying new, and not replacing bathroom floor. The golf ball demo was American Standard, issue with that is marketing vs. Reality - Golf balls are easy to flush, 1/2 of them were already down and going up the trap, you need toilet paper to flush and get thru the trap - that's the hardest thing - Any of the new Kohler with Aquapiston are crazy good.
 

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Gerber Avalanche or Toto Drake. Whichever one you can find cheaper. I put both in regularly and people love them.
 

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I put in an Eljer, but don't remember the model. Got it at Menard's for under $300. Flushes well, but does have that dumb hump up front that won't flush paper if it lands on it, instead of in the water. Higher height and elongated are nice.
 

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My wife and I have been waiting 6 months for the Toto toilets for our new house. (Evidently, they have a severe back order on the dual-flush model the Mrs. wants.)

Needing an inexpensive stop-gap solution, we picked up an Eljer Diplomat Elite Concealed Trapway toilet on sale at Menard's for under $200. (It's comfort height, easy to clean, etc.) I must say that it has been amazing and able to deal impressively with some very difficult "situations" I've thrown at it. ("Situations" normal toilets wouldn't have been able to flush through.)

We are now kicking around possibly dumping the Toto's and going to the Eljers. If you want to stay in the $200 range, this one is a great option.
 

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I have one Kohler and two American Standards and was skeptical at first of all the claims but have yet to have an issue with either.
 
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