Need advice on DP220 Drill Press

[jkd]

I am woefully ignorant when it comes to drill presses. I saw this for sale today and would like advice on whether it is a good deal and what to look for when purchasing. I'd appreciate any help!

The listing just says "Great condition. Operates excellently. $100"

 

[jakemac]

Similar topic started here :
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=226536

 

[BFBOB]

If that vise and mortising clamp come with it, slap down a Benjamin and RUN!! (if not, try for $75) Unless there's something badly wrong with it - badly bent spindle, shot bearings -- it's well worth it. I have several Rockwell tools and have gotten excellent service out of them all.

 

[Packard V8]

If everything in the photo comes with it, that's a steal deal.

jack vines

 

[d.mcfarland]

Assuming it works, great deal for $100.

 

[jkd]

Thank you everyone! I will be checking to see if it is available!

 

[zkling]

Go buy it now, especially if it comes with the stuff on the table.

 

[Outlawmws]

Holy ****, why weren't you posting pics of it in your garage?

 

[dunstan]

Holy ****, why weren't you posting pics of it in your garage?

Because I bought it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunstan/sets/72157638338099983/

(Sorry jkd)

 

[WWIIjeep]

Because I bought it!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunstan/sets/72157638338099983/

(Sorry jkd)

Lucky you. That's a vintage Atlas milling (X-Y) attachment. $100 for that alone is a steal, and you got a free drill press in the bargain.

 

[dunstan]

Lucky you. That's a vintage Atlas milling (X-Y) attachment. $100 for that alone is a steal, and you got a free drill press in the bargain.

Ooh, I didn't know that, thanks for the tip. I'm going to restore the press before I give the vise a good going over, but I'll take extra special care of it now I know that it's an nice old piece of equipment.

 

[383 240z]

Please remember that having the X-Y milling table, does NOT make your DP a mill!!

You will hammer the bearings in the head in short order. Keith

 

[dunstan]

Thanks Keith. I don't know much about drill presses, but not using my dp as a mill is one of the few things I'd picked up from this forum

 

[Mike662]

I have that exact same press, minus the vice/milling table. Think I paid $125 for it, and I thought I got a great deal!

IIRC, there is a "slow speed" attachment that was optional. Basically an extra set of pulleys that mounted at the top of the center column. I'm still keeping an eye peeled for one of those, or I may eventually try to fab my own.

Awesome job getting it home in a convertible, BTW!

 

[dunstan]

Thanks Mike, I'm also going to be looking out for one of the slow speed attachments. Either that or fit one of the variable speed motors to it, but either of those is a way off for me.

As for the mini, I've moved an amazing amount of stuff in it before. I don't have photos of any of the crazy large items, but generally I've been very impressed with the moving capacity of my little open top car

 

[WWIIjeep]

IIRC, there is a "slow speed" attachment that was optional. Basically an extra set of pulleys that mounted at the top of the center column.

Not quite. Delta called it a "Multi-speed attachment" because it gives speeds that are both slower and faster than the speeds available through the standard motor and spindle pulleys.

It's a single pulley that mounts on an eccentric on top of the column, and there are two versions of it, depending on whether you have a Slo-speed or High-speed model drill press.

The "Slo-speed" and "High-speed" for that drill press refers to the two spindle pulleys that were available.

The Slo-speed version has a spindle pulley that is significantly larger than the motor pulley and gives four speeds of 470, 780, 1300 and 1950 RPM, primarily for metalworking.

The High-speed version has a spindle pulley that is about the same size as the motor pulley and gives four speeds of 680, 1250, 2400 and 4600 RPM, primarily for woodworking.

The No. 1028 "multi-speed" center pulley for the High-speed model drill press extends the four standard speeds to twelve speeds, with a range of 270 to 11,000 RPM (compared to the original 680 to 4600 RPM range).

The No. 1029 "multi-speed" pulley for the Slo-speed model drill press gives twelve speeds ranging from 185 to 4825 RPM (compared to the original 470-1950 RPM range).

Both the 1028 and 1029 multi-speed attachments are hard to find, and will generally cost more than the price of a whole drill press.

 

[Mike662]

Thanks WWII, great info!

 

[nine4gmc]

You stole it, for sure! That vise goes $150-300 all day. Nice DP too!

 

[Robert.Beal]

Hello,

I just purchased this same drill press for $125 with a vise. It has more runout in than I would prefer and I'm wondering if you would talk to me about your project. I don't know if the spindle is bent or the chuck is, but I would suspect it is the spindle itself. Anyway, I am going to rebuild it much the way you did when I ran across your posts.

Thanks in advance,
Robert

 

[dunstan]

Hi Robert,

I'm afraid I'm a complete beginner with drill presses, so I can't help you with the run out. I can, however, help you if you get stuck with taking the thing apart, or if you want to know what it entails. Essentially all I did was photograph the thing from every possible angle, dismantle everything I could, photographing it extensively as I went, cleaned and sanded and de-rusted everything, got the main parts sand blasted then spray painted them myself, then re-assembled it all using the many, many, many photos I took as reference points.

I just used common sense, and photographed everything (every nut and washer and screw and bolt, both in situ and removed and the order in which they should be used) so that I'd never have a moment's doubt how it all went back together. Every group of elements I removed got photographed, put into their own plastic bag, and labelled so I knew what it was.

Photograph, dismantle, label, bag, clean, bag, reassemble.

Oh, and these diagrams are helpful:
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1141/3516.pdf
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/1141/1764.pdf

And I bought one of these belts to use, but I haven't actually put the motor back on yet (I was just giving it a wipe down tonight) so I can't tell you how good they are:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BQDS8I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Come back to me if you need any specific help and I'll do what I can.

-- Dunstan

p.s. I'm not kidding about the photos. Take tons!
p.p.s. I tried taking the motor casing apart to clean inside, but I couldn't get it apart. I'd skip that.

 

[tedsters]

you got a heck of a deal that is a very nice atlas cross slide vise plus the old delta are good tools