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Super Mech

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I'm looking for an 11mm hex bit socket to remove the brake calipers on a 2012 MB ML350. I don't want to spend the 34.50 that Snap On wants, but I don't want Chinese **** either. I searched eBay and for some reason I mostly see sellers from overseas and brands I've never heard of. Can anyone recommend something?
Forgot to add that it needs to be 3/8 drive.
 
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I'm looking for an 11mm hex bit socket to remove the brake calipers on a 2012 MB ML350. I don't want to spend the 34.50 that Snap On wants, but I don't want Chinese **** either. I searched eBay and for some reason I mostly see sellers from overseas and brands I've never heard of. Can anyone recommend something?
Forgot to add that it needs to be 3/8 drive.

Try Dan the Mac tool guy, I deal with him all the time
 

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As far as the import brands go, VIM makes decent bit sockets. Otherwise hit up Sears, most or all of the open stock sockets I've seen in stores around here are still USA.
 

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Please read the bolt/socket size chart in my signature line. Should be sticky. Should be required reading here.

There is no such thing as an 11mm German cap head screw.
DIN 912 defines German cap head hex socket screws. It has now been withdrawn in favor of the identical ISO 4762 (both are shown on my chart).

Its possible you have a US spec 7/16" cap head screw. But that should give you pause. Why would a US spec bolt be on a German vehicle? (could Mercedes be buying brakes from the US? Unlikely. Mercedes INVENTED disk brakes in the early 20thc).

I believe the caliper guide bolts on a MB ML are T40. Sometimes, especially on brakes, the recess fills up with black brake lining and you can squeeze a hex bit into a torx head bolt.

But please be sure, as you will likely strip the torx recess with a hex bit. These caliper bolts may be torqued to nearly 100ftlbs from the factory and there may be some sort of locktite applied. You will not strip a torx recess with this torque, but you could shear a low quality bit. I can pretty much guarantee Lisle or Craftsman, maybe even Blue Point, will struggle or fail.

I know you don't want Snappies, but they are the recognized best bit sockets out there. Bit sockets are the reason I started using Snap On. Ditto, you may need more than 150ftlbs to loosen these babies. So you could be risking breaking some 3/8" ratchets. The Snap On dual 80 3/8" drive is one of the strongest ratchets on the market and I think it's good for 250ftlbs.

You might do okay with other brands or you might not. I recommend you buy bit sockets directly from Snap On so you have warranty service, then swap them out as they become worn. On the flip side if money is tight, you can buy sets pretty cheap on ebay and buy replaceable bits direct from Snap On for 10 or $12 each. The chrome doesn't really wear, only the business end of the bit.

Last- I don't have one of these vehicles to look at, and I'm not 100% sure I'm right about the head size. Check before you splurge!
 
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Jason280

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Hmmm,now I'm curious...post a pic of the bolt in question, I'd be interested spot see if it's a hex or Torx.
 

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I'd be using an impact rated 1/2 socket, of solid construction, if it were me. I have sets like this of GP and Matco that I trust over and over. I have a 1/2" 1/2dr socket I must use about 50 times a week by GP, still hasnt broken behind my Snap-on 24" ratchet.

As well, if it were me, I wouldn't mind using a HF socket of the above mentioned type, as long as its 1/2 dr. I have one of those that has survived much abuse. I'd avoid the 3/8ths in this case, but again, I don't know your tool box. I am a heavy equipment guy, so this is a small socket for me, compared to my larger 1/2" and 3/4-1" sets.
 

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Specifications aside, Mercedes-Benz wouldn't be the first manufacturer to use an off-spec/odd-sized bolt. I bet it is an 11mm drive cap screw as reported in the mbworld DIY guide. Are they torque-to-yield bolts? If so, then you'll be buying new bolts from the dealer anyway and you can check them out.

I'd stay away from Gearwrench bits as I've broken a few and I'm not a professional. Perhaps try Proto or Blackhawk or SK.
 

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The new jeep Grand Cherokee and the Dodge Durango also use an 11mm in the front
 

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Chek craftsman single pieces, they're USA made.

It's worthy to remind everyone that these hex sockets are not made for impact. If you use it on impact, you may break it.
 

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A Chinese Husky would be about $2....
Home depot seems to stock them individually in most stores.

Otherwise, a used snapon from ebay would be in the $10 range.
I'm not a great lover of snapon, but I do like the bit sockets.
 

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The new jeep Grand Cherokee and the Dodge Durango also use an 11mm in the front
Apologies. I think I'm completely WRONG. I forgot that this car shares its platform with the dodge and jeep. Kinda makes sense to use 11mm as guys without big sets of metric stuff can use 7/16. Europeans can use 11mm.

Also true that these caliper bolts are rarely standard bolts, so auto designers are free to specify whatever head size they want regardless of the industry standards.
 
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I highly doubt any fastener on a mercedes is SAE

This was the full sized SUV platform developed by Daimler Chrysler. The new ML shares some of it (jeep Grand Cherokee) and the GL and the Dodge Durango share platforms.
 

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This was the full sized SUV platform developed by Daimler Chrysler. The new ML shares some of it (jeep Grand Cherokee) and the GL and the Dodge Durango share platforms.


And is anything on the Grand Cherokee/Durango SAE..................?
 

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And is anything on the Grand Cherokee/Durango SAE..................?

Pretty unlikely. Even the earliest '93 Grand Cherokees had a metric chassis, only the drivetrain was SAE and I believe the last SAE-based drivetrain in a GC went away in 2006.
 
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The bolt in question is no doubt a hex head and it is no doubt an 11mm as I borrowed a snap on one from the shop next door. The are not the bracket bolts but the actual caliper bolts. It was a 2013 ML350.
 

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I would buy snap on and not even think twice about it. $35 is pocket change compared time spent with Cheap bits
 

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Pretty unlikely. Even the earliest '93 Grand Cherokees had a metric chassis, only the drivetrain was SAE and I believe the last SAE-based drivetrain in a GC went away in 2006.

That's what I thought.

I've only ever worked on a friend's Wrangler, and even that thing was all metric (and Torx).
 

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If you want to really cheap out, but a husky, tekton, or kobalt socket for $2, and still use the $10 bit from snap on.
 

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I'd shy away from US CM, they're bit sockets are very poor IMO, have broken plenty. Brands I would suggest are SK, Proto.

I use SK hex sockets here at work, that take a beating! Where others have broken CM, HF (these break as soon as they are looked at,) Kobalt, my SKs break em loose.

Here is a link to Amazon for a SK 11mm 17 bucks, with free shipping on orders over 35 bucks. Made in USA, lifetime warranty. If you select the seller JB tool sales it will come out to 16 bucks total, I have purchased from them in the past and had excellent results.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RN2FYY/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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I did a brake job on my 2001 silverado a while back and the front caliper bolts were T55. I broke 2 T55 sockets before i got all 4 off (2 per side) I had NO idea they'd be on that damn tight. they probably had rust and corrosion that made it tougher too. i ordered the snap on torx set not long after that. I'd trust SK's too for that type of thing.

remember I was putting a lot of force on my breaker bar. when the T55's broke, I busted a knuckle once or twice. Buy the good tools for something like this where high torque is involved
 

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You know what makes me giggle ... " I won't pay $20 more for a socket to help me do a job correctly but I'll waste hours of my time trying to think of a cheaper alternative"


I love you guys! LOL
 

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You know what makes me giggle ... " I won't pay $20 more for a socket to help me do a job correctly but I'll waste hours of my time trying to think of a cheaper alternative

You sir, are crazy:p
 
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