Need Bathroom Help

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

I have a question for some of you more experienced. I need some PVC plumbing advise. I am redoing my bathroom and the upstairs toilet drainage drops below the rafters, into a T, then goes down into the basement. The upwards portion of the T goes to a street 45° up and out the roof (Vent).

Since the rafters are already notched for the toilet, I would like to tuck it up allowing me to not have a lower ceiling height (about 6”). My concern is, the street 45° makes it so I am unable to cut the T out and I cannot access what is above the 45 allowing for easy modification.


What are my options?

A bump in the wall? Not pleasing to the eye though

Drop the Ceiling? Bathroom is small and this would make it smaller. Also having to drop the ceiling 6” wood would get semi expensive and be a “hack job” imo.

Separate the PVC T? I was able to do this in the basement with ease but if it failed (broke) I had a backup plan, here I do not. I have access to a heat gun and have read this will allow for separation. Yet I have also heard PVC pipes are welded not glued.


Here is what ideally what I want to do. Sorry for the terrible picture/drawing, best I could do.
Cut the "T" out and replace it with a piece of pipe (which would leave toilet disconnect but still have the vent).
Cut out a section in the pipe and put in a "Y" pipe in which would then travel parallel to existing pipe and connect up to a new, tucked up, pipe to the toilet.

I can easily do all of this but am worried about seperating the joint of "T" and street 45°.

 

[nadogail]

I have a question for some of you more experienced. I need some PVC plumbing advise. I am redoing my bathroom and the upstairs toilet drainage drops below the rafters, into a T, then goes down into the basement. The upwards portion of the T goes to a street 45° up and out the roof (Vent).

Since the rafters are already notched for the toilet, I would like to tuck it up allowing me to not have a lower ceiling height (about 6”). My concern is, the street 45° makes it so I am unable to cut the T out and I cannot access what is above the 45 allowing for easy modification.


What are my options?

A bump in the wall? Not pleasing to the eye though

Drop the Ceiling? Bathroom is small and this would make it smaller. Also having to drop the ceiling 6” wood would get semi expensive and be a “hack job” imo.

Separate the PVC T? I was able to do this in the basement with ease but if it failed (broke) I had a backup plan, here I do not. I have access to a heat gun and have read this will allow for separation. Yet I have also heard PVC pipes are welded not glued.


Here is what ideally what I want to do. Sorry for the terrible picture/drawing, best I could do.
Cut the "T" out and replace it with a piece of pipe (which would leave toilet disconnect but still have the vent).
Cut out a section in the pipe and put in a "Y" pipe in which would then travel parallel to existing pipe and connect up to a new, tucked up, pipe to the toilet.

I can easily do all of this but am worried about seperating the joint of "T" and street 45°.

If you believe all that you hear; you will soon be Howling at the Moon.

 

[kbs2244]

put the bump in the wall
they are common

 

[flat350]

Build a soffit around it, a little coordination between the tin knocker and the plumber would have fixed it at the start. Almost looks like a St. 22 1/2 coming out of the tee not a St. 45, with no access to above the tee a broken fitting will start a snowball rolling.

 

[mike93lx]

I agree. Leave the plumbing and soffit it.

 

[SpiderDave]

Second on soffit. I'd figure out what's going on with the sheathing on that NM wire too - 3rd pic.

 

[mike93lx]

Second on soffit. I'd figure out what's going on with the sheathing on that NM wire too - 3rd pic.

Just looks like a piece of fiberglass is stuck to it. Looks fine before and after that

 

[bluedog225]

Another vote to frame around it. I’ve not heard of separating pvc. A year from now, you will never see it. Or just leave a little pipe showing and paint it. No big deal.

 

[The Cobbler]

just drop the ceiling drywall . no added framing just drywall what you have. I see alot of times people boxed in with way more framing than they need.
depends on your layout, sometimes you can use the drop as an accent if over a vanity etc.

 

[rharman]

Box it in. Before long, you'll never even notice it.

 

[BarnBuiltBeaters]

Sounds like boxing it in is my way to go. Thanks everyone!
Someone suggested I box it in and build shelving below it to hide it better. it would be directly above the toilet and probably look as good as one can get. Might get a quote on a plumber to come out and see what they would charge to relocate.

I had heated up a fitting in the basement and the fitting came off pretty easily. I am thinking this would too but as one of you guys said, if it didn't, it would just snowball into a bigger problem.

Is there such a thing where you could use a flexible rubber fitting with hose clamps to fit two pieces together that had been cut?

Ill keep you all posted on a quote, im sure itll be more than I am willing to spend though!

 

[Sturgeon]

That would be a tough fix, agree with the above ideas, even painting it isn't a bad idea after rocking around it. Good luck.

 

[Innovate1]

I have peeled off some PVC couplings but it isn't pretty and might not work. Another factor is how old the pipe is. Old PVC gets more brittle increasing the chances of it cracking. I would go with covering it. It looks like the ceiling framing around the edge is already about the same height as the bottom of the pipe or is that an optical illusion?

 

[Joemctag]

I agree. Leave the plumbing and soffit it.

You could have a corner cabinet maybe not full height to hide it.