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gsingh

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Hello. I am in the market to buy a backpack blower. I have been eyeing the Echo PB500 and PB770. Haven't dealt with backpack blowers before. I normally use my electric blower, but it takes forever.

Also need to buy a chainsaw. Need to take a couple of trees down, getting way too close to the house. I only want to buy it once, so throw some ideas at me.

As far as prices, lets try to stay under $600 for each item :willy_nil. Thank in advance.
 
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I asked my landscape guy and he recommended RedMax. I got the EBZ7500 2 years ago and it has been completely reliable and powerful. Head and shoulders above the Echo PB500 I had previously.

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I like my Husqvarna's, but I know that there are better "professional grade" machines out there. The price will be higher, but I'd go to a dealer instead of getting the HD or Lowes versions of any brand.
 

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As far as power tools go, I have found stihl to be stellar. I have a hunting property on which I cleared several trails, in weathers that range from freezing to steaming, and my stihl ms260 never needed more than 4 cranks to cold-start. I have used some homeowner grade husqvarna and have found them hard to start and poorly designed if compared to the stihl.
As far as the blower,I would buy a stihl without hesitation. On the other hand I do have an old echo blower that has nothing wrong with it.
 
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I have a Stihl BR600 for my blower. Can't think of a single complaint. Moves even wet leaves with no issue. I would recommend this blower wholeheartedly.

My saw is a mid 70's Stihl O41 farm boss with 16", 20", and 24" bars. Call me stupid, but I like those old saws. It just keeps going. If it gave up the ghost tomorrow though, I'd buy a Stihl MS 362. Good saw, can handle most timber that a casual saw user will encounter without skipping a beat.
 

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Echo makes great blowers, trimmers, etc but chainsaws aren't their forte.

Stihl makes great chainsaws but only if you get their professional saws. I don't like their homeowner/farm saws.

For only a few chainsaw uses a year, rental might be a good option. Chainsaws are unforgiving to poor preventative maintainence.

Go to arboristsite.com for excellent chainsaw discussion.
 

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My Echo backpack blower is a champ. Just got it down from the attic, put a new spark plug in it and it started on the first pull after being in storage since last November. If you can, use gas with no ethanol in these small engines. It makes a big difference in ease of starting.
 
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Sthil hands down makes the best stuff! I have their trimmer, 2 saws, and a hand held blower. I couldn't be happier!
 

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Stihl ! Have a 11 year old chainsaw and trimmer and never had an issue. Just picked up a backpack blower last week
 

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Echo is not a top tier, professional brand anymore. They used to be, but they made a massive sell out to acquire box store distribution - only real dealers carry decent "pro" stuff, and even that isn't on par with other pro brands.
Stihl and Husqvarna both make consumer models and professional models - buy either from a real dealer, not from a box store (box stores never carry pro models of Husky and none can carry Stihl at all).
Shindaiwa and Tanaka are great products, but lack a dealer network sufficient for the average person...

I work on em for a living - don't buy a consumer grade product from a pro brand - it's just wasting money. If you want a cheap (consumer grade) product buy a cheap product (poulan, ryobi, etc). They are made about the same and you'll have more cash left over for repairs or replacement.

Definately use no ethanol fuel - or 92+ octane pump gas (has less ethanol). Use good quality 2 stroke oil (if you get a 2 stroke) like Stihl synthetic (they double your warranty on a stihl product if you have proof of using synthetic oil). Only mix what you need for fuel, store it fuel tank full (less air space means less condensation)or drained and run the carb dry and if you must store gas of any kind treat it with K100 or Startron. (stabil ain't what it used to be, but if all you have is marine stabil it will help with the ethanol/water issues better than nothing).

All in all, Redmax is good (owned by Husky) and you could easily walk out of a good dealer with pro level saw and blower well under $1200 (and under $600 a piece), but I agree if you're not going to use the saw often (more than once a year) consider renting.
 

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I have a Husqvarna blower for a few years and it has been flawless it is the same as a Redmax 7500 in orange. Saws really depend on how much cutting and how big of a tree we are talking about. Stihl, Husqvarna / Jonsered, Dolmar / Makita ,all make great saws and some turds, alot has to do with your level of knowlege of care and use, or the support of a good servicing dealer.
 

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Your needs are not of the same as a contractor, which is actually important. Many brands will do the trick, despite many telling you their favorite (just like a love/hate Snap On thread).

Stihl - top brand that many pros use, and the brand (like SO) everyone compares to.
Echo - on the Pro forums, probably 2nd most owned.
Tanaka - now owned buy Hitachi,
Shindaiwa - owned by Echo for 3-4 years now, but for now still maintain distinct line ups.

The above I mention because I have all of these and work great, any issues have been more me than the unit. Redmax, Husqy, and many other pro brands to choose from. Things to consider....

- the deal you can get is important, but make sure if you need parts or someone to fix down the road, there is someone in your area. Stihl, Echo/Shin, Husqy should not be a problem. Tanaka, RedMax and others can be harder depending your area.

- Paying a couple of $$$ more to support a local dealer is good, as long as it isn't too much more.

- the most important thing for long term ease of use is what you do when you don't use them. The blowers less of a problem except for the off season. Chainsaw is another story.

First, always get a good quality synthetic 2-Stroke oil, all the above have their own and are top quality. You mix them 50:1 and this is good for all your oil mix products. Never mind if the manual says 32:1 or whatever. With synthetics, always mixed on what the oil manufacturer say and it is good for all. If you want to go high end, get Amsoil Sabre and mix it at 80:1, been doing this 5 season now, no more exhaust screen or carb problems. (hint, any oil that has recipes for multiple mixes like 32:1, 40:1 etc on the label is not a synthetic)

When the season is over, dump the remaining gas from all tools and get a can of TruFuel 50:1 pour just a bit into each tool and et them run about 5 minutes, turn off and leave fuel in the tool. Running tools dry leads to dried lines and seals.

In the spring you make a new batch of fuel and you are good to go. You should make an amount that will last no more than 3 months. Gas varies from state to state, make sure you are getting either ethanol free or as low as possible, for the amount of gas these tools use, always spring for premium gas.

If you maintain them, just about any of the top brands will work great for you, and if you follow these gas guidelines, you will never have carb or exhaust problems and probably never need to change you spark plug. I had a Solo line trimmer, made in Germany and built like German tank, till I had carb problems and my dealer was not able to get parts for it. Had a Stihl line trimmer that also worked great till it had carb problems. Since going to Sabre in the summer and TruFuel in the winter, 5 years no issues on 2 Shindaiwa line trimmers (one is a 4 stroke hybrid mix), 2 Echo blowers and hedge trimmer, and infrequently used Stihl 14" concrete saw and relatively cheap Homelite chainsaw that starts every time, for the once a year times I need it.

This was my 2 cents to say, you like the Echo's, go for it, I like mine very much.
 

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Excellent advice.

I prefer to store my equipment dry and I tell all my customers to do the same. The drying out argument is not an issue and I live in a really dry climate.
 

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I've used Husky and Echo backpack blowers, both commercial grade and both have been satisfactory.

I've used Stihl and Husky chainsaws...I prefer Husky. I'd at least by the Farm or Ranch versions of each.
 
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So much information. I never knew some of the stuff I jut learned. There is a Stihl dealer close to me 3-4 miles. Might go with BR600 or BR430.

As for the saw, I'll just use an axe to cut down the tree.
 

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I bought a brand new Stihl BR600 this past spring. I love it! If you buy their oil when you buy the machine, they will double the warranty from 1 year to 2. Also, check prices with a few different Stihl dealers as their prices will vary. I have 3 dealers within a few miles of my shop and they all quoted me a different price for the same machine. I saved $50 bucks just by price checking the dealers in my area.
 
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Yep, go with Sthil !!

I have two Sthil chainsaws (an arbor saw and a Farm Boss) , a backpack blower and a string trimmer. All excellent and totally reliable; HOWEVER, avoid their homeowner grade tools as they are not as good as the pro line. And, make sure you buy from an actual Sthil dealer, not some second tier seller.
 

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Buy whatever you like.. Honestly - it's not like you gonna become a lumberjack overnite. I have a craftsman gas chainsaw at home, and a stihl at work.. No matter what saw you have, they are only as good as the blade you have on them.. And IF u do get one, make sure you learn how to sharpen the blades.. U can use a file , but I recommend the cheap sharpener at harbor freight.. I work for a utility company and I use it to sharper the blades for about 5 different saws I use. If you want to go electric makita or husky are really good.. If I can use them to cut up telephone poles you should have no trouble with trees.

For leaf blower I'd recommend echo.. You don't need to spend insane money on this stuff. I've never had a problem with my echo weed wacker or blower. They always start with minimal maintenance. Change the plug and filters ever 2 years and they work every time. Realize where you are when u ask advice on here.. People will always push you to buy the most expensive but you really don't need to.
 

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Get a Stihl.. Br600 is a super nice blower,but bigger than most people need... For a saw, if you don't use it that much and don't need a very big saw check out a ms250. I believe they've just been replaced with the ms251c which is basically the same saw with an ez-start feature. They're our best selling saw and have had very few problems with them. But they are a smaller saw, I wouldn't run much bigger than a 16" bar.. If you cut a lot of wood or just want s bigger saw the ms311 is what I have and I love it! Several logging crews in the area run them also even tho they're not considered a full "pro" saw..
In the end, tho, go with what you can get good service on, because no matter how good the equipment, you will need to get it worked on at some time or other, and it ***** to have to deal with a dealer you don't like or one that doesn't care.
 

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I feel like a broken record but I will say it again don't go for a name rather go for a dealer that will go the extra mile when it comes time for after the sales and you need to have something worked on.

Find someone that will roll out the red carpet and stick with that dealer like glue; in the end you will be happy and so much better off.
 

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There's a reason Stihl is the number one, and by a large margin. You don't see the enthusiasm for other products--Stihl owners are RABID, and for good reason. Stihl is the Toyota of vehicles and the Honda of ATVs. :)
 

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I've owned Stihl, Husqvarna and Makita in small lawn and garden tools.

I have a Makita/Dolmar saw that is the best saw I've ever run.

I have a smaller Husqvarna saw that is dead on reliable and easy to start. I have Husqvarna trimmers that are easy to start and awesome to run.

I had a Stihl pro saw that was hard to start. I have a pro model BG-86 Stihl blower that is falling apart under relatively light use and is also hard to start when cold.

I'll be the contrarian - I would put the Stihl at the bottom of my list. I won't be buying any more of their stuff.
 

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I think most people know what the good commercial brands are.. I just can't see telling someone to buy the same saw used by utility companies and tree services after the OP said he only needs it for 2 trees.. Or did nobody else read that he might just buy an axe. Honestly, I think he just better off buying something cheaper.. Or even renting one from Home Depot if that's an option.. It's just 2 trees. I've had my craftsman for years and the thing works great.
 
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I think most people know what the good commercial brands are.. I just can't see telling someone to buy the same saw used by utility companies and tree services after the OP said he only needs it for 2 trees.. Or did nobody else read that he might just buy an axe. Honestly, I think he just better off buying something cheaper.. Or even renting one from Home Depot if that's an option.. It's just 2 trees. I've had my craftsman for years and the thing works great.

But this is a forum for tool junkies, we want to buy tools, not be persuaded to get an axe (we have wives for that) ;)

I use my Homelite chainsaw maybe once a year, but I am so happy doing it :)
 

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Stihl for the chainsaw. I've had mine for 5+ years - not a single problem.

Backpack blower - I've used Stihl and Echo, both commercial grade. The Echo blowers were lighter than the Stihl (which makes a huge difference over a 12 hour day), but both were satisfactory.
 

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All the name brands will give you good service. One thing that will show up on most 2 cycle equipment is after about 1-6 months the power will start dropping off due to the government required spark screen (required if used in National Forests) has clogged up with carbon. Remove muffler and remove screen and clean and replace it if you feel like you need it but I have never seen sparks come out of mine (Echo) that would cause a fire. They are in all brands and will eventually cause loss of power or can't start conditions.
 

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All the name brands will give you good service. One thing that will show up on most 2 cycle equipment is after about 1-6 months the power will start dropping off due to the government required spark screen (required if used in National Forests) has clogged up with carbon. Remove muffler and remove screen and clean and replace it if you feel like you need it but I have never seen sparks come out of mine (Echo) that would cause a fire. They are in all brands and will eventually cause loss of power or can't start conditions.

Use a top quality synthetic oil and you won't have much or any issue ,I'm betting. My buddy used to have to take the screen out of his muffler on his bike ALL the time because it would clog. He saw mine ran great, made the switch and found out what crappy oil he was using. Not an issue any more. It does make a difference.
 

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Stihl for the backpack blower for sure, My wife love's the Stihl no problem for her to start and I have no complaints with my Stihl chainsaw or weedeater
 

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I would go with Echo on the blower, they seem to be smokin everyone these days in that market. Most of the professional yard guys I know have switched to Echo blowers, and they know what works and what lasts! Word gets around quickly with them.

On chainsaws, it's not as clear cut, with good offerings from Husky, Stihl, Echo, and a couple of others. I don't care for Poulan, they are inexpensive, which is good, but they are really heavy with not much power, and I want light weight and plenty of power.
 

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Hard to go wrong with Husqvarna or Stihl.

Bought a Stihl FS110 Weedeater over the summer and have no complaints.

Bought a Husqvarna 150BT backack blower from Northern tool for $250 after coupon because I couldnt justify spending twice that on a Stihl. Its great. Actually makes me look forward to dealing with all the oak leaves that are still falling.
 

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The best of whatever you can afford for a chainsaw.

As for the backpack blower, don't buy one, they're a tool used by lazy people and do nothing but annoy everyone around when it's in use.
Buy a Billy Goat vac or something that actually PICKS UP the stuff and GETS RID OF it instead of making a LOT OF NOISE AND MESS to make it LOOK LIKE you're actually working.
 

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I feel like a broken record but I will say it again don't go for a name rather go for a dealer that will go the extra mile when it comes time for after the sales and you need to have something worked on.

Find someone that will roll out the red carpet and stick with that dealer like glue; in the end you will be happy and so much better off.

With most tools, I totally disagree with this..but not in this case. I don't work on 2 stroke gear, and a chainsaw is one of the most dangerous tools I handle. With my occasional use (6-8x times a year, usually 2 big trees cut to stove length), they recommended I didn't need a pro saw. I ended up with a stihl 232 - commonly mocked. Been fantastic for three years so far. Changed out the safety chain and bar for a semi chisel chain, and couldn't be happier. The dealer helped me with chain, showed me how to sharpen it myself, and got it fixed on a Saturday when the the choke wouldn't disengage. Both times I was there, they pulled and cleaned the air filter, checked the plug, showed me proper chain tension, and talked to me about techniques for safe operation. They keep a bunch of wood out back to SHOW you to do a plunge cut, etc. I ended up buying a shindaiwa weed wacker from them this year too.

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