Need help identifying military tool roll (WWII?, Snap-on)

[tool_scrounge]

I went to a tool sale a few weeks back. With the ad placed on craigslist only 42 minutes before the start of the sale I was the only one there at the start and had a bit of time to peruse things in peace. The previous owner was an engineer who worked in the US Space program. Unfortunately his kids did not want the tools.

One item I brought home was a tool roll. As shown, the roll is marked "TOOL ROLL CCW-18004-A". I find nothing about it on the Internet so I was hoping for some insight here on the GJ.

The Snap-on T handle is marked F-5-CG followed by a G stamp
The Snap-on sockets are:
7/16" (F-140)
1/2" (F-160)
9/16" (F-180)
5/8" (F-200)
11/16" (F-220)
3/4" (F-240)

The sockets all have a "G" marking, except the 5/8" socket which is marked "E"

The two smaller open end wrenches (9/16 & 7/16, 3/8 &5/16) are Marked "Fairmont Made in USA"

There is a small Nicholson tungsten file.

The rest of the stuff is not marked or marked USA without a Mfg. listed.

Do the Snap-on E and G codes signify WWII vintage? Any thoughts on what is was used for?

Thanks!

 

[ZRX61]

Might want to ask over at G503.com

 

[Rogue1987]

I think g marked snap on tools denote government contract tools and no warranty avaliable through normal consumer chanels.

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[Gmonkee]

E is 1944 date code, G is 1945. Warranty would be refused but why would anyone do that with an intact military tool kit anyway?

A rare bit of history to find one not parted out and dispersed. I have a G code breaker bar found loose in a huge box of odd tools.

 

[Carla]

That appears to be the issue maintenence tool kit for a piece of equipment with a small engine, such as a genset or pump.

It was a common practice to issue small pieces of equipment with a set of maintenence spare parts, and such tools as may be needed to make basic repairs 'on site'. The generality of military small equipment would be provided with a sheet-metal box to hold the basic running spares, the manual, and the tool kit.

They were commonly 'salvaged' as a 'desirable and useful souvenir' and taken home by someone when the genset or other piece of equipment perished, and can still occasionally be found at flea markets, garage or estate sales.

That screw driver is likely marked 'Androck' and the pliers unmarked, but with a forging plant code. Wrenches and sockets may be found in the Plomb, Snap-on, Williams, and Fairmount makes.....and a couple of other less common makes as well, such a Vlchek.. Usually, a kit like that would have an 8" Crescent pattern wrench, or other adjustable wrench, and one or more 'special' tools for the specific item of equipment.

cheers

Carla

 

[tool_scrounge]

Thanks everyone for the feedback on this. I picked it up for the cloth tool roll but I am feeling a bit guilty on splitting it up. So for those of you who responded to my posting, if one of you would like the tool roll + contents for your collection, please PM me. I'll send it to you for the cost of shipping (USPS Priority Mail).

 

[Johnny A]

I also need help with this tool.
Can anyone identify?
Small engine ??

 

[Outlawmws]

Three pin spanner for something with a shaft; maybe a valve stem, but for what in particular I can't say.

 

[Carla]

I also need help with this tool.
Can anyone identify?
Small engine ??

It looks like half of a disc-coupling, are you sure its a tool, and not a part?

If a tool, maybe for the mag drive on some old small engines, which used that pattern of coupling???

Some small pumps used that pattern of coupling, as well.

I can't easily imagine a service operation which required such a tool, but there were many models of small engines, gensets, and pumps, so there may well have been one for which such a tool was required.

(just watch.........someone may find such a tool and its use in one or another old maintenence manual, and then we'll all say......oh, thats really obvious, we should have thought of that)

cheers

Carla

 

[WWIIjeep]

It looks like half of a disc-coupling, are you sure its a tool, and not a part?

+1

Half of a shaft coupler. The other half will look the same, and a circular disk of laminated leather or a rubber composite with 6 holes in it fits between the two halves.

 

[Outlawmws]

Without a keyway or any visible set screw, I respectfully disagree. How would it engage the shaft? What would the purpose of the hex be?

 

[WWIIjeep]

Without a keyway or any visible set screw, I respectfully disagree. How would it engage the shaft? What would the purpose of the hex be?

OK, I yield.

My excuse is that I didn't see the hex side because that photo is inline with the other and way off to the right outside of my screen view.

 

[Carla]

OK, I yield.

My excuse is that I didn't see the hex side because that photo is inline with the other and way off to the right outside of my screen view.

I can't see the bore of that part well enough to know whether there might be fine thread. If the bore is threaded, that could be part of a mag coupling assembly.

If the bore isn't threaded, that hex might suggest that it is a tool, used either to turn a mag (or pump, or other driving or driven part, whatever) coupling, or hold it from turning, whilst some operation was done.

Is there any 'context' for that part/tool, as in being found with maintenence tools or parts for some known piece of equipment?

cheers

Carla

 

[Provincial]

GMC made a military truck during WWII that had a designation "CCW" so this may be a tool kit for one. The CCKW all-wheel drive model was more common, and the CCW used only the rear two axles for drive.

 

[Gmonkee]

The best market for an intact WWII military tool roll is a forum dedicated to restoring WWII vehicles. There are a few out there on the WWW.

Some of those guys get to the nitty gritty of details in the final steps of a retoration and the tool roll is very important to them.

 

[bigredcornhead]

honestly those wrenches look similar to some ford wrenches that came with Model T's...Depending on what Jeep or truck could of been made by an auto company

 

[Gmonkee]

During the later part of the war every tool maker that could was making something for the war effort. The better part of the many tool makers before the depression were slowly being absorbed into other companies in those times and all the tooling that still worked, all the old dies were being used if possible.
It is possible that a die used in the Ford T era was reused again.

Wartime wrenches mostly came in bare steel for both contract and civvie versions as the rare metals were being used elsewhere. Common carbon steel was the main material used. The flagship styles of tools had mostly stopped production the war years. Chrome and vanadium alloys were more important elsewhere.

The Alloy Artifacts site covers the details of this brand by brand and shows examples if he has them. An interesting bit of history.

 

[Lasu]

I also need help with this tool.
Can anyone identify?
Small engine ??

echo 3 pin clutch removal tool ?

 

[Bartonian]

I went to a tool sale a few weeks back. With the ad placed on craigslist only 42 minutes before the start of the sale I was the only one there at the start and had a bit of time to peruse things in peace. The previous owner was an engineer who worked in the US Space program. Unfortunately his kids did not want the tools.

One item I brought home was a tool roll. As shown, the roll is marked "TOOL ROLL CCW-18004-A". I find nothing about it on the Internet so I was hoping for some insight here on the GJ.

The Snap-on T handle is marked F-5-CG followed by a G stamp
The Snap-on sockets are:
7/16" (F-140)
1/2" (F-160)
9/16" (F-180)
5/8" (F-200)
11/16" (F-220)
3/4" (F-240)

The sockets all have a "G" marking, except the 5/8" socket which is marked "E"

The two smaller open end wrenches (9/16 & 7/16, 3/8 &5/16) are Marked "Fairmont Made in USA"

There is a small Nicholson tungsten file.

The rest of the stuff is not marked or marked USA without a Mfg. listed.

Do the Snap-on E and G codes signify WWII vintage? Any thoughts on what is was used for?

Thanks!

I have the Generator that this kit is for I would like it

 

[tool_scrounge]

I have the Generator that this kit is for I would like it

Sorry, that kit was given to Carla (RIP sniff ) many years ago.

 

[Bartonian]

Well darn I believe I have the exact Generator it went to . Generator has Never been used