Hey guys I'm a auto truck tech I can use a scan tool lol I have factory ford and gm tools at work and such. I just need a good basic obd2 scanner that'll check codes, show live data and I'd like to be able to do abs/ and Srs and air bags. I've been looking at the innova pro 31603 do any of you guys have any recommendations I'm looking as my old scanner got stolen.
Need help with a decent scanner?
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balane
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I think this is a popular scanner that will do everything you ask including ABS and SRS. It's a great price too.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091DJWV0/?tag=atomicindus08-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0091DJWV0/?tag=atomicindus08-20
G1GRANDEUR
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that does look very good for the price. because most of them are just code reader at that price range.
FiendFX
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Innova or autel. These are common scanners
p_mori7
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i have an autel, and like it very much.
zakmartin
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Don't bother with the Innova. Get the Autel MaxiDiag MD802. You won't regret it at all. I love mine and it's a TON better than all that generic code garbage Innova sells for the same price.
This may not be what you're looking for, but it can't hurt to suggest you take a gander at it:
http://www.autoenginuity.com/
http://www.autoenginuity.com/
FiendFX
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That is a great scanner, but the price is $500+. Compared to the innova it's $300-. You get what you paid for.
I like that Autel 619, looks good for the price.
Which Innova has the best quality/price ratio? I agree that you get what you pay for
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SQBYGS/?tag=atomicindus08-20
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0078UVR1Q/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Which Innova has the best quality/price ratio? I agree that you get what you pay for
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007SQBYGS/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Or
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0078UVR1Q/?tag=atomicindus08-20
kythri
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Just out of curiosity:
What does the $325 scanner on Amazon do that AutoEnginuity (the base $250 package) doesn't?
Does AutoEnginuity do things out of the box (the base $250 package) that these scan tools don't? Does AutoEnginuity require the enhanced package add-ons to do things that the $325 scanner does already?
What does the $325 scanner on Amazon do that AutoEnginuity (the base $250 package) doesn't?
Does AutoEnginuity do things out of the box (the base $250 package) that these scan tools don't? Does AutoEnginuity require the enhanced package add-ons to do things that the $325 scanner does already?
Exactly I can get the $325 dollar scanner and be pretty close to factory tools. Ae I'd have to buy enhanced packages for every manufacturer and I just don't need to spend that kinda money when I have the factory tools this is just for me and side work
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Does the autel turn things on/off like fuel pump or able to bleed the ABS system? Does it read manufacturer specific codes, I know for ford diesel's you need the AE ford bundle in order to read all the codes? So the autel's live data can monitor things like fuel trims? Anyone know how much the updates cost after the 1 year free for autel?
I've also been wanting a decent scanner to upgrade my code reader. Have been looking into AE but in order to get manufacturer specific codes for one manufacturer is around 500 bucks if I remember right and the domestic package is closer to a grand and other foreign raises the price even more.
I've also been wanting a decent scanner to upgrade my code reader. Have been looking into AE but in order to get manufacturer specific codes for one manufacturer is around 500 bucks if I remember right and the domestic package is closer to a grand and other foreign raises the price even more.
Ya the auto enginuity thing is a crock if you don't buy the bundles. The autel will read fuel trims and specific codes I don't really care about the ford and duramax diesel since I have access to the shop tech 2/mdi and ford ids system. I doubt it'll do functional stuff like bleed abs pumps and such. But I'm not worried about that. Most scan tools above code readers will due ect, fuel trims, and o2 readings. You just won't get say ford koeo and koer tests and such. The autel will work just fine for what I need, the reason they cost so much is most folks won't be trying to look at icp and ipr readings or looking At frp on a duramax or commanding the q57 indirect injector. I just need basic stuff for gas engines if it reads diesel even better because that's a lot of my work and side work.
The AE is only generic OBD2 for $250
you have to buy enhancement to get manufacturer specific codes and ABS, etc...
zakmartin
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I bought mine for $283.79 on October 28, 2012 on Amazon. Looks like they bumped the price up to $325 since then. Still a bargain for what it does.
zakmartin
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The MD802 does bi-directional diagnostics when you run a system check. It does not allow you to control the bi-directional functions, however. I can hear the fuel pump turn on when I do a scan on my 350Z, but I can't tell it to turn the fuel pump on. For that, you need to get an Autel MaxiDAS, and then you're in the $750 - $1200 range.
Also, the MD802 does live graphing, has print functions, save functions, etc. It'll scan the ECU, ABS, SRS, Body Control System (it even checks my stereo). For about the same price, it's a TON more powerful than any of the Innovas I've tried.
I have Autoenginuity and the Ford bundle for my powerstroke. It can do ABS bleed with the bundle. You can turn off individual injectors and do a powerbalance test with it. However, I don't like the powerbalance test on it because you can't instruct the PCM not to do its compensation for weak injector performance, which makes it difficult to see a marginal injector. I also don't like that you can't adjust the scale on the powerbalance test. Without a doubt, the IDS is superior. But AE is useful for those of us who don't have the almighty IDS and that don't want to pay for the truck all over again after a few trips to the dealer's service dept for repair on a powerstroke. Basically, if it can help a DIY'r through one or two events, it paid for itself given how much most Ford dealerships charge for parts and labor. Not bashing on dealers here, but you really can't argue with the numbers.
Here's a few screen captures of the AE displays while doing some diagnostics for my powerstroke. Note how my FICM voltage stumbles below spec of what should be a nominal value of 48 Volts, and not less than 45 volts per Ford's standards. On the last screen capture, the AE gauge display shows the FICM voltage at 43V, but AE will only show a flat line of 40V if it is 40V or less for some reason on that measurement. I had my Fluke leads with an extension and alligator clipped to the FICM stud so I could read it from inside the cab at the same time I used AE with my laptop.
I replaced my FICM power driver / half shell with one from International for $149+tax. Ford charges over $500 for the same part.
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shockwave
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I would recommend finding a used OTC nemisys scanner as it will scan abs airbag on a lot of Asian cars unlike some of the others that only do domestics and u get live data but for side work it works great for me I picked up a used matco version of this one for about 350
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this is what i runn it will do air bags , abs , service reset , electronic park brake reset vw audi it will scan any system on almost any car under the sun it wiil do new cars it will do old pre obd cars so if u see a huge mix of cars this what u want this tool is awesome once u get how it works
it is a bit pricy but it will make you $$ and save u time and let u fix things without outsourcing it to another shop
this is what i runn it will do air bags , abs , service reset , electronic park brake reset vw audi it will scan any system on almost any car under the sun it wiil do new cars it will do old pre obd cars so if u see a huge mix of cars this what u want this tool is awesome once u get how it works
it is a bit pricy but it will make you $$ and save u time and let u fix things without outsourcing it to another shop
Al believe me the ids isn't all that great it's a pain in the ***. Light years better than the previous ngs tester but also crappy. That is a good deal on the half shell. The ae is a good tool a lot more than DIY guys use it. I just don't like the bundle gimmick but hey we all gotta make money
I definitely scratched my head about it before springing for it. But I looked at it from a cost/benefit like stated above. In one or two uses, it's paid for. Actually, that's even with independent shops, not just dealers. No one works for free and who can blame them? One thing about the 6.0 is how tight everything is under the hood. It's hard to do much of anything without pulling stuff out, or using special tools to get to stuff. It's always easier the second time around though
. That IDS may be cryptic, but it is powerful from what I've seen of it. The AE is far from perfect, but you can do a fair amount with it. I try to give an objective critique and not just sing its praises. I have yet to fully use it so I can't really give a comprehensive review. But I was disappointed with how limited the usefullness of the powerbalance test was. But that is because the AE people aren't savvy about the PCM's compensation for flakey injectors. But, being able to turn off one injector at a time is still pretty useful. And you can also record/data log with it and playback measurements.
FiendFX
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When it comes to bi-directional controls, scanner are gonna range $1000+ New that is..
I'm still hunting for a snap on solus ultra for cheap.
I'm still hunting for a snap on solus ultra for cheap.