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Need Help with My Radiant Control Panel

rcnut223

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Hello everyone, I could use some help. I Just finsihed laying out the components for my radiant control panel. I am concerned with the location of the fill valves , does anyone see any issues with this or any other aspect?

Thanks
Mike
 

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brewchief

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Where is your fill valve and backflow preventor? I normally bring my fill into the bottom of the spiralvent with a tee allowing for the expansion tank. I also have been seeing more and more folks adding a valve to isolate the expansion tank so it can be replaced without draining the system down and bleeding it.
 

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It looks prety good if the outlet is on the top of the boiler.

One thing on the fill valve tho, if you are going to force fluid in one valve with a pump in a bucket, I like to have a return that flows back into the same bucket so I can purge air faster.

I used two valves with a shut off between them, you can see it in this pic. It makes for easy service.
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markvfr

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It looks prety good if the outlet is on the top of the boiler.

One thing on the fill valve tho, if you are going to force fluid in one valve with a pump in a bucket, I like to have a return that flows back into the same bucket so I can purge air faster.

I used two valves with a shut off between them, you can see it in this pic. It makes for easy service.

That is awesome! Thank you for posting your labeled setup. I'm getting some quotes to get mine pipe fitted but still thinking of doing it myself. How big is your heating space? I've got seven loops that I'll put on one zone in a 780sf space and wondering how much more my supplies are going to be. I think the manifolds are pricey and that'll drive up my cost.

Anyway, thanks again for posting that.
 

Fastback

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That is awesome! Thank you for posting your labeled setup. I'm getting some quotes to get mine pipe fitted but still thinking of doing it myself. How big is your heating space? I've got seven loops that I'll put on one zone in a 780sf space and wondering how much more my supplies are going to be. I think the manifolds are pricey and that'll drive up my cost.

Anyway, thanks again for posting that.

Thats a lot of loops, it can help you manage your Delta-T with that many loops, so that can be a good thing, but you may need to flow slower than you expect on your pump and your Ft of head is also lower.

I made my manifold from parts soldered together, but I did not add any kinda flow control to them since it's just one zone. But it was cheap, what you see pictured was around $300. You can do it that way if it's one big room, but I am going out of my comfort zone here and think you may need some of those small balancing valves to reduce flow rate since your runs are short and multiple.


Disclaimer.
* I am no professional, I'm just a cheap *** that wont pay anyone else if at all possible.
 
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markvfr

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Disclaimer.
* I am no professional, I'm just a cheap *** that wont pay anyone else if at all possible.

So am I! :)

Right on, thanks for that. I'll be getting quotes shortly so we'll see what the pros say and then I can see if my cheap-self can tackle it alone.

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One issue I see is you are not pumping away from the boiler and the micro resorber (spirovent) The vent and boiler should be on the low pressure side of the system. Pumping away is a book by Dan Holohan who is the guru of boilers and radiant systems, has a website also.
 

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Thats what I meant when I said "It looks pretty good if the outlet is on the top of the boiler."

You want to pull the fluid past the vent, not push it past.
 

anthony666

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i do radiant for a living

your boiler piping looks decent, reverse return is a great solution to single zone heating .. flush and fill will work better if you get the boiler drains as close as possible to the ball valve between them; less space for air to get trapped
 

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RCNUT

How many BTU from the boiler you are using?
What brand? Cost? etc.

Please post updates when you get it fired up with the pro's and con's.

I will be setting a system up within the next 6-8 months so I am really interested.

Jim
 
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