need hot tire pickup help

[thomapa1]

I recently did my garage with epoxy - looked great for @3 months, now I have an issue with hot tire pickup. The epoxy is not failing, but the garage floor is. When pickup occurs, the epoxy comes up with a gouge of cement. My rear tires are killing a section. (Heavy car, sticky, big tires, engine in the back) .

I'll get the mfg's. repair kit and touch it up - but what are some solutions to avoid pick-up? (keeping the cars outside until tires are cool is not an option).

A. I'm thinking of getting @2'x3' sections of mats (rubber on bottom, carpet on top) and park on top of those. Drawback is that it would look like azz.

B. Then I saw some heavy duty clear vinyl garage flooring - would be perfect as it would not standout and the 'nice' epoxy job would still be seen thru the vinyl. But I would want only sections to place under the tires. They only seem to sell the full rollout sections which is more than I need and $300 for the cheapest section (doing my whole garage with this is waaay too expensive since I spent my wad on the epoxy).

C. Maybe self sticking Commercial Vinyl Tiles over the sections where the tires make contact? Might be able to get close to the gray color at least - may not stand out as much. Not sure how protective these would be?

what other options?

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

How bout a racedeck pad just for the car? I have seen this before and it looks cool.

 

[thomapa1]

Racedeck pad would work, might look good to do 2 full strips per side.

 

[darkk]

We have a 30x30 garage and bought epoxy coating and a clear coat also.
after thinking about it for awhile we shelved the epoxy idea and just Race Decked the whole thing instead.

 

[Garage Flooring]

Tiles such as Racedeck, our Premium Product and even MotorMat make great pads. BLT also makes clear roll out flooring as well as roll out flooring in colors. All of these options will protect your floor.

 

[NewShockerGuy]

I like these:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004WMBXYO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Just wish they weren't that expensive for one...

-Nigel

 

[Garage Flooring]

Those are cool. Actually when I logged in and saw that I thought maybe its something we should sell. Then I saw the price. When you consider you would need at least two that's almost $300.

I think http://www.garageflooringllc.com/ga...ribbed-pattern-roll-out-garage-flooring-mats/ is a better value, but obviously I have some bias in the matter You could even do a Clear garage floor mat

Going back to those pictures... I wonder if we can't improve on the idea. Maybe go 15" wide and 17' long and try and get a pair of them for that price?

 

[NewShockerGuy]

Those are cool. Actually when I logged in and saw that I thought maybe its something we should sell. Then I saw the price. When you consider you would need at least two that's almost $300.

I think http://www.garageflooringllc.com/ga...ribbed-pattern-roll-out-garage-flooring-mats/ is a better value, but obviously I have some bias in the matter You could even do a Clear garage floor mat

Going back to those pictures... I wonder if we can't improve on the idea. Maybe go 15" wide and 17' long and try and get a pair of them for that price?

I was just about to say can you mimic what that looks like but improve on it...

The cost is too high but the idea is excellent, and I love how it looks.


As long as it's something that can be cleaned and wider... 12" is too narrow.. the tires on my STi are wider than that... so to me it's worthless with anyone that has a performance car with meaty tires..etc.

I'd say you'd probably sell a lot if the price point was lower and it was tweaked...

-Nigel

 

[thomapa1]

Personally, I'd love to get the clear mat in strips of @2' wide and 18" long. The killer is price.
I'd like to go no more than @$200 total. Lower = better

- My low cost option is 2'x3' entrance mats <may look like ****> but under $100 total

- Medium is to build racedeck 'pads' with beveled edges. Coin pattern would be @$175 total for 2'x3' pads for each tire. Diamond pattern would be @$250. Would detract from the overall floor, but would look like a nicer accent than the mats, black beveled border.

- High cost is the ribber clear mats - lowest roll is @$300 before shipping. Strips are not offered, would have to cut. Would likely barely notice they are there.

not sure yet.

 

[slickgt1]

Damn that sux. I have a friend that did his garage in Epoxy. Paid a ton for it too. His Porsche is doing the same thing to that floor. The crazy heat we are having, seems to make the tires and epoxy have inseparable love. He is freaking out, and laid entrance mats in the areas where the tires are. Looks like ****, but saves his floor.

 

[thomapa1]

Exactly my problem - same kind of car.
While the mfg (Armorpoxy) says that their product is not failing, OK I agree, my previous old $hitty home depot coating did not cause pickup of the garage floor!

I may do a quick/dirty solution like carpet until I rebuild the money tree for a nicer solution.

 

[bdamico]

Personally, I'd love to get the clear mat in strips of @2' wide and 18" long. The killer is price.
I'd like to go no more than @$200 total. Lower = better

- My low cost option is 2'x3' entrance mats <may look like ****> but under $100 total

- Medium is to build racedeck 'pads' with beveled edges. Coin pattern would be @$175 total for 2'x3' pads for each tire. Diamond pattern would be @$250. Would detract from the overall floor, but would look like a nicer accent than the mats, black beveled border.

- High cost is the ribber clear mats - lowest roll is @$300 before shipping. Strips are not offered, would have to cut. Would likely barely notice they are there.

not sure yet.

What is clear gonna look like when it gets dirty / discolors or yellows

 

[slickgt1]

Exactly my problem - same kind of car.
While the mfg (Armorpoxy) says that their product is not failing, OK I agree, my previous old $hitty home depot coating did not cause pickup of the garage floor!

I may do a quick/dirty solution like carpet until I rebuild the money tree for a nicer solution.

I suggest tile. My daily is an BMW X5M, with 315/40/20" tires. Car weighs over 5000 lbs. Go ahead, ask me if I ever had any issues.

My friend is planting a new money tree as well. He is going tile this time. He paid $9 per square foot for the epoxy. The guys that did the job, are telling him it will cost him $400 to fix, and they can't guarantee a perfect match, or that it won't happen again. ********.

 

[Garage Flooring]

I have never used these for this application but if you goto the Park Smart Clean Park page under the mats are their protector strips. They are a 50 mil product so only slightly thinner than a BLT mat. The first size is only 7.5' but if you hit the arrow down there are longer ones.

OP: If you buy them and come back and post an HONEST review of if they will work for this purpose I will send you a check for half the purchase price -- we do not have that kind of margin in the product but I think we all want to know.

 

[thomapa1]

That is very generous of you Justin, you are an excellent sponsor here and always have been responsive and honest. I didn't even use your products!

I will pass on your offer for now. I need some weeks to order my repair kit (chances are they will not give me concrete patch material), do the repairs.

I'm thinking to make some parking pads with Racedeck, I may go 1'x2' to keep cost down - will try that size with spare carpet samples first.

Trying to make lemonade with my lemons.

In the end, I wish I had known of this distinct possibility prior to starting the job - I would have approached it differently.

The high end Epoxies advertise quite loudly "no hot tire pickup issues"....I only did @20 hours of research and homework - guess that was not enough.

 

[Garage Flooring]

That is very generous of you Justin, you are an excellent sponsor here and always have been responsive and honest. I didn't even use your products!

I will pass on your offer for now. I need some weeks to order my repair kit (chances are they will not give me concrete patch material), do the repairs.

I'm thinking to make some parking pads with Racedeck, I may go 1'x2' to keep cost down - will try that size with spare carpet samples first.

Trying to make lemonade with my lemons.

In the end, I wish I had known of this distinct possibility prior to starting the job - I would have approached it differently.

The high end Epoxies advertise quite loudly "no hot tire pickup issues"....I only did @20 hours of research and homework - guess that was not enough.

Thank you. Hot tire pickup is an interesting thing and I think it is often blamed on epoxy or other coatings when that is not the case. While there are always exceptions,it is typically the concrete, the installer, or the preparation that cause it, not the product itself.

When I say that to people they say " so your blaming the customer" and my answer is typically no. My frustration is there are so many salespeople who will suggest using pixie dust and orange juice to prep your floor. Or not warn about doing a moisture test. Installation instructions often leave something to be desired.

Contrast that with some of the guys on this forum who do not sugar coat anything and make people get down on their knees with a 7" grinder before they install their epoxy. Problems still happen but when the prep work is perfect, the concrete is good (and free of moisture) the product is mixed properly and installed at the correct thickness, the "product" tends not to fail.

A lot of this may not apply to your case and I am not saying you or your supplier did anything wrong. I am just saying what I have seen in the past.

 

[slickgt1]

My friends garage is 2 years old. It is above grade, there is a basement below it actually. Everything is insulated. Moisture tests were done, even grinding when they installed. I remember the grinding because he was pissed that his cars that had car covers, were covered in dust. And cleaning that **** off was epic.

I have a feeling the mix or install was poor.

He currently has about 30 carpet mats in the garage. He actually made a track all the way out the garage. lol. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure I will laugh my *** off when I do.

 

[Garage Flooring]

My friends garage is 2 years old. It is above grade, there is a basement below it actually. Everything is insulated. Moisture tests were done, even grinding when they installed. I remember the grinding because he was pissed that his cars that had car covers, were covered in dust. And cleaning that **** off was epic.

I have a feeling the mix or install was poor.

He currently has about 30 carpet mats in the garage. He actually made a track all the way out the garage. lol. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure I will laugh my *** off when I do.

Could be a lot of things tough to tell but that really *****

 

[slickgt1]

Could be a lot of things tough to tell but that really *****

It does. Too bad it was none of you guys from the forum. At least there is a good service support here.