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AbitNutz

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I'm looking for an Oxy-acetylene torch for just general garage work. Nothing really specific, just for whatever needs a lot of heat or cut off.

I found several people advertising Conoa . I'm really not familiar with them. I found one in particular, a Conoa 806-8402 Two Stage, new in box.

Is Conoa a name brand to consider?
 
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90roadster

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victor or harris, never heard of conoa, make sure you can get the tanks refilled before purchasing them.
 
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+1 on go with tanks you can get refilled easily. Personally I plan to stick with cheap easy to use Mapp or butane.
 

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Concoa is the current manufacturer of the old Airco torches and parts. These are very good torches. I have had an Airco set (since 1971) that is at least 50 years old that has never given me any problems. The tips (adapters) use seals where they mount to the handle. These need to be replaced every now and then, depending on if you overheat the handle or just age. My last set of seals lasted 15 years. The handles and adapters last forever, and the tips last as long as Victor tips.

Google Concoa for more information. You can't get these parts just anywhere, which is why Victor is so popular.
 

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Is Conoa a name brand to consider?

I've heard of Victor, Smith, and Harris. Most of the time when I pick up a torch, it's a Victor. For something like torches that involve explosive gasses and flames, my advice would be to steer clear of off brands for equipment like that.
 
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I wrote something about gas below, but first something more important. If you buy an Oxy/Acetylene rig on craigslist *do not* buy one that seems at all banged up. Check the hoses - discoloration from dirty hands is one thing, but if you see any cracks, cuts, or abrasions, pass on the entire set. If they don't take care of their hoses they're not taking care of the rest of it. A small leak in your acetylene hose can kill you, anyone in your house, and maybe some folks in the next house over. The stuff pools at your feet, and if enough of it collects and ignites it can release an incredible amount of energy. Once you do buy a set, leak test everything. Every fitting, the gauges and handles on the regulators, the hoses, the knobs and handle (if you're cutting) on the torch, everything. Acetylene is a really useful thing to have around, but it will be hands down the most dangerous thing in your home unless you're doing something really unusual.

Anyway, on to gas:

For Oxygen and acetylene you don't get tanks refilled, you swap them out like welding gas. Generally only the place where the bottles were purchased will swap them out, though. The bottles will be marked by the supplier. If you buy your own bottles, get them from whatever gas supply is easiest for you to get to.

If you buy the bottles on craigslist, make sure that they're from either a local place that's convenient for you or a chain that has multiple locations in your area (the big ones are Praxair and AirGas). Personally I go to a locally owned shop, since they've been in the area a long time, but the AirGas near me is a perfectly fine place to buy gas. I will say, though, that the conversation is better at a small shop.

Oh, and another option is to rent your bottles. That just means that you don't have to buy them, but every time you get them refilled you pay extra for bottle rental. Even if you buy the bottle, you don't get to keep it - you get a different one every time you pick up more gas.
 

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As provincal said, the brand is called concoa. They bought out airco back in the day. They are anything but off brand. Very good torches, downside is that some of the parts can be hard to come by.
 
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AbitNutz

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As always, I've learned a great deal. Because of my limited needs, I'll likely get a new set of lower end Victor's. Then go to my local Airgas and get some tanks I can swap in and out. It seems like this will be the easiest scenario for a noob like me to deal with.
 

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The tanks,the tanks are in the purchaser's name and have to be transfered in your name.Easy way is to make a reciept saying you bought the tanks from this seller and now are yours.Most welding supply places keep them on record whom pruchased them.
 

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I have Concoa/Airco dual stage gauges...they are top quality. It is my understanding they are an industrial brand and people don't throw them away...they just keep having them rebuilt. In fact, mine has a built-in feature which tells you when it is time for a rebuild.

As far as Concoa/Airco torches, though, just make sure you can find a ready source of tips. See if your LWS can order them for you.

I have been very happy with my Concoa regulators.

Kev.
 

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victor or harris, never heard of conoa, make sure you can get the tanks refilled before purchasing them.

Victor or Harris are the only ones to buy.
If they are old you will need to have them professionaly rebuilt. The older ones can have the gaskest go bad.

If you buy old tanks you will need to have them tested by a test center. They charged $10 years ago but I don't know how much they charge now. That is why you see dates stamped into the tanks. You can not get them filled without the testing.

The coller around the neck will have ID marks or the owners brand and mark.
Make sure it is not a company that owns the tank. Many tanks are stolen and if it is not a private tank they will take your tank form you. Some are rental tanks and have been sold off so it is very hard to check because there have been so many companies. They really don't care bout the Oxygen tanks so much as they do the acetylene tanks.

Buyer beware. Then you want to get check valves installed on each line.
Always store them with the caps on if not in use.

If one gets knoced over it launches like a missle. I ahve see one get knocked over and go through the solid block wall of a building and into a truck outside.
They are easy to use but don't abuse.
 
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