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Need New Bay Window, Please Help Select

In The Doghouse

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Hey Guys,

From this bay window I can see my workshop out back. Is that close enough to solicit help from the Garage Journal members?

We have been in our house for 30 years. The center window leaked argon some years ago probably due to the stress of the window unit sagging. The window was installed by our builder but he obvious did an poor job of supporting it. You can see I blocked it up with 4x4's. It is unattractive but effective, and in the back yard where few people see it.

I would like to replace it with a new unit that either suspends from above with cables (preferred) or supported from underneath. One option could be to pour foundation underneath and brick up to give support, but that will be pretty pricey. I do have some left over brick from when we built so matching brick would not be a concern.

Requirements:

Outside: PVC or anodized aluminum or vinyl clad and no painting required.
Almond or beige colored to match the rest of the trim.
45 degree angles between front and side panels.
Thermo paned windows and overall great quality.

Inside: Wood grained for staining or already finished in wood grain.

Recently I removed the inside trim and measured the framed opening, but at the moment I cannot find that info. Today measured over the trim it is about 86" wide by 56" tall. It is probably a standard size close to that.

I have discussed with local independent building supply's and Lowes folks, but they seem disinterested. We don't have a Home Depot nearby.

Where might one purchase a replacement bay window unit that meets my needs? I don't mind ordering online and shipped to me, I might even prefer that. My brother and I will change it out sometime when the weather is mild and internal climate control is not too big a concern but first I have to get one here.

Hopefully there are some builders and/or remodelers among the Garage Journal gang.

Thank you.
 

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chinboys

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I went to Home Depot and ordered an Anderson 8 foot wide 4 foot high 45 degree unit with center fixed and side casement windows for under $1600.
I wish I had ordered one with a 5 - 6 foot height as to have a window seat.
I had to install a glulam beam and yes it is held up by steel cables or if you want to install knew brackets.
The interior is pine while the exterior is that PVC cladded stuff.

You can order on line and pick it up or have HD deliver it.
 

D45

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Can it be supported with two or three decorative iron braces that are mounted to the brick?

Not to hijack your post, but I am wanting to add a bay window in the kitchen and dining rooms.......my windows are 30 years old and I think a bay window would add some nice light and plant storage, but never thought about needing or having to support it
 

ddawg16

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I think I can help you guys. I just installed a bay window in my kitchen and my house already had a bay window that I've 'upgraded'.

I'm on the west coast so my choices for windows are a little different. In my case I used Milgard...great value in a window. I'm guessing Pela and Anderson would be the choices on the east coast.

I've included two pics to help you visualize.

For the OP, your existing window looks a lot like my kitchen bay window.

My large bay window was built with the house back in 1952. Hence, it has a proper frame to support the windows.

For the kitchen, I actually had 3 windows and I built the frame for them. The bottom portion is bolted to the house. Most of the vertical support is on the top. Once the windows were nailed in place, it pretty much locked everything in.

If the window is large enough, you can buy a one-piece setup that should not need that hack of a support your's has.

Another option (which I suggest) is to build a 'soffet' below the window with enough support for the window.

BTW....on my large bay window, the windows are fiberglass on the outside and wood clad on the inside. Kitchen windows are fiberglass outside and vinyl inside.

The nice thing about fiberglass.....I can paint it. In other words, I don't have to live with 'white' framed windows.
 

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kbs2244

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To the OP:
I am guessing your window was site built from 3 separate windows.
I expect you will have to do the same if you want to match the current outline.

A window that deep needs a foundation.
The problem with just a slab and brick is frost heave.
You need a support that goes below the frost line.
 

RECox286

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Take a look, a close look at the Marvin brand.

When we had to replace 3 patio doors and one

bay window, Anderson was the first choice. Not

one hole would accept any of the units shown in

the Anderson catalog. We moved on to Marvin, and

they sent a rep, 2 actually, to look at and to measure

for custom built units. Without their attention or

willingness to supply custom fit units, we would have

been in a pickle...why ? The units had to be exact or

they wouldn't have fit the brick face facade, nor have

matched up to the inside trim. As it turned out, the units

required no trim adjustments or additions. They slid right

in just like the old units slid out.

Uncle Bob
 
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