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You pour the two-stroke mix in your truck?

I do the same FWIW, and sometimes, add a bit of two stroke oil overy couple fill ups to help lubricate the fuel pump from the drying effects of ethanol (I don't want to have to take the bed off my truck to replace the doggone pump, 2002 Sierra 4.8).
 
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Husqvarna!!! We have 3 of them and we've used Husqvarna for more than 20 years and we never had any problems with them! Our oldest trimmer is now a parts trimmer, only because somebody stripped out a screw hole and it wasn't worth repairing anymore. They are as reliable as can be!
I never used Stihl, but I would think it is on par with Husqvarna :)
 
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Husqvarna!!! We have 3 of them and we've used Husqvarna for more than 20 years

I've read that the Husqy 100 and 200 series are made in China and are not as good as the 300 and higher series. Which models are you running?
 

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You pour the two-stroke mix in your truck?
Yes.

Keep in mind, this is maybe 0.5 gal of mix tossed in an 18.5 gal tank once a year when the season is over. Truck doesn't have any issues, and it's an easy waste-free method of disposal.
 

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BTW - Mention of ACE hardware - Ace is a co-op, not a corporate entity or franchise. A hardware store joins the coop to get volume purchasing, same with Do It Best, and TruValue.
 

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The stuff they sell at home depo or lowes is on the low end. go to a small engine dealer and get a maruyama they blow echo and stihl out of the water . most people unless they work in the small engine field have never herd of Maruyama before but there trimmers are top of the line.
 

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I do the same FWIW, and sometimes, add a bit of two stroke oil overy couple fill ups to help lubricate the fuel pump from the drying effects of ethanol (I don't want to have to take the bed off my truck to replace the doggone pump, 2002 Sierra 4.8).
we do they same thing at the shop i work at we have a 2 5 gallon gas cans we use to drain all or bad fuel into and when they are full we throw it in to the work truck.
 
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Find local dealer, talk to them about what they sell, may it be stihl or echo or redmax, these brands are good. I am sure there are others out there as well. But in the strange chance you have a problem in the first few years with the things, and realistically any good unit you shouldn't but keep in mind they are made by humans so I am sure there are turds out there at times too. But like I was saying if you do have a problem it can be at least addressed locally
 

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I've read that the Husqy 100 and 200 series are made in China and are not as good as the 300 and higher series. Which models are you running?

My 128 LD was assembled here. So was my 125BVx, 150BT, and 435. And they all get refurb & factory service done in Charlotte, NC. Husq has a huge facility there right next to Lowe's huge corporate park. Nearly all the Husq equipment I've bought has been refurbs from Northern, the exception is the 435 at Lowe's. Have had no issues with the current ones.

At first I bought a 240 saw, that wouldn't stay running. Brand new out of the box, I tried adjusting it but it was just bad. They didn't have any more and I didn't feel like driving halfway across the state to get a $200 saw so they made me an offer I couldn't refuse and I bought the 435. Then they did a promo the next weekend where you buy Husq oil or gas and get a case for it, combined with the 'buy 2 cans of Husq gas and you get the warranty extended 3 years' and so I have a total of 7 years combined between factory and Lowe's on it. Worked for me.

I also have a Hitachi (too lazy to look up the model #) blower, the same one Lowe's sells but I got mine new at a Sears outlet for like $70. It's nothing special but it starts on the first pull and I've had it for near about 3 years so far. My only complaint is no cruise on the throttle. The intake is on the left, so it's going to pull your leg hairs or pants if you use it right handed.
 
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Now I have been looking at a Husky 525LS or the LST, the LS is on sale for $220 but the LST is $350. Anyone use a husqvarna 525?
 

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Not sure about Florida, but many states do not use ethanol in premium gasoline. Should be some kind of sticker at the pump.

Properly sealed, non-ethanol gas has a shelf life up to 2 years. Ethanol gas, 6 months tops.
 
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stihl. can't go wrong!

Not from what I have been reading across the web..


Now I must be lazy but I never had much luck mixing oil in my Kawasaki K100 enduro or Craftsman 2-cycle, so I am starting to lean towards a Honda / Husqy 4 stroke model instead. It's just so frickin' expensive and the attachments cost as much as the power head. :confused:

I am looking for a trimmer because I'm just tired of my lawn guy doing a crappy job and I've had 3 companies in the last couple years and just wish they did what I asked. It takes 2 men less than 15 minutes and costs $40. :headscrat

Apologies to the LCO's here... Just a rant
 

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For those who have difficulties mixing oil with gas-http://www.baileysonline.com/Tools-Outdoor-Equipment/Fuel-Lubricants-Mixes/Accessories/Ratio-Rite-2-Cycle-Oil-Mixing-Flask.axd
 

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Echo sr225 just bought one at the beginning of spring and it's the best one I gave Dover had, easy start and 5 year warranty did it for me....it has the easy start crank...

Just did the same thing. Local lawn shop recommended it even though I was willing to get a more expensive trimmer. Just fired it up today and it was a treat to use. Started with almost no work. About a hundred times better than my craftsman (which has already been replaced twice under warranty and crapped out again).

The shop I bought it from suggested tru-fuel to avoid the ethanol problem.
 

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Not sure about Florida, but many states do not use ethanol in premium gasoline. Should be some kind of sticker at the pump.

Properly sealed, non-ethanol gas has a shelf life up to 2 years. Ethanol gas, 6 months tops.
properly sealed and stored in controlled conditions... "up to" being the key words. I've never seen untreated gas of any kind last that long without turning to varnish.

Not from what I have been reading across the web..
Now I must be lazy but I never had much luck mixing oil in my Kawasaki K100 enduro or Craftsman 2-cycle,
simple these days, especially if you only mix what you need. think about it - are you really going to use 5 gallons of 2 cycle fuel in a 6 month season? for all but the most 2 stroke dependant 1 gallon is more than enough. Buy a 1 gallon gas can (mark it 2 cycle with a sharpie or something) and use the small bottles of 2 cycle oil for a 1 gallon can. Simple and as foolproof as you can get. Having the mix off will cost you a cylinder and piston which is many cases is not worth fixing, so why cheap out on mix oil trying to save a buck or 2 over the 5 years it'll take to use up the quart size bottle of oil?
 

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I know it's been suggested before, but my vote goes for a cordless electric trimmer.

I don't even have a good one, because I just thought I'd give it a try, and once I started using it I couldn't imagine why I'd ever bought a gas trimmer; especially a damned two cycle.

If you're worried about batteries and all that, worry no more. Stihl makes cordless electrics now, and they are most certainly not toys.

Just use one once, and you'll be sold. No screwing around mixing fuel, no leaks, no running the tank out just so everything stays clean, no worries about ethanol, no spending half an hour trying to start the damned thing after winter...

All trimming issues will disappear.

...And these things aren't weak, either. Even the cheap Black and Decker model I bought will cut through several feet of thick crabgrass and mow down pretty much everything under a tree without issue.

Push a button, and it spins. End of work.

As an added benefit, Stihl offers an entire lineup of electric tools now, that all use the same batteries. So, you can have an instant-on everything.

I live in a 50X50 steel building, with a VERY large yard, lots of annoying shrubs and weeds, tons of that stupid grass around the ditches, vines, and I've also got to edge all 200 feet around the building.

I can do it all with almost one of the **** batteries that thing came with, and with no trouble at all. I'm pretty strong, but that thing would be light for anyone, as well. Since the battery and motor area don't weigh much on these, the entire thing balances out.

You grab one of those Stihl units, and you'll be able to handle your yard twice before you need to think about charging anything; and their batteries charge fast.

I've been screwing around with them, and I'm going to get one as soon as I can afford it. It's almost foolish for a residential customer to purchase anything but a cordless electric trimmer, now.

Hell, the Stihl models can handle professional work.
 

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Here's an image of most of the line. They even have a trimmer with a sharper bend at the end that's not pictured here:

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They are calling this their "commercial" electric trimmer line. They aren't screwing around. These guys have a brand image to protect, and they are laying it on the line.
 
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Get the Echo with a line trimmer attachment and a edger for your walk.

You'll be able to get service parts at any Home Depot. With Stihls you'll pay more and have to get filters, plugs, and such at a lawn mower shop.
 

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Here's an image of most of the line. They even have a trimmer with a sharper bend at the end that's not pictured here:

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They are calling this their "commercial" electric trimmer line. They aren't screwing around. These guys have a brand image to protect, and they are laying it on the line.

I'm interested, but probably not when I hear the price.
 

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Also I have used Amsoil 2stroke oil for almost 20yrs. I think it has a stabilizer in it !!!
Mix 2oz in 2 gal of mid-grade or premium gas.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produ...ssional-synthetic-2-stroke-oil/?code=ATPPK-EA

I do not recommend anyone use Amsoil or any other oils labeled as "universal mixes". I've seen testing, they do not work as well at protecting the cylinder walls and Amsoil in particular is notorious in the RC community for causing severe carbon build-up and ring sticking despite its ultra lean ratio.

Stihl brands excellent oils and they aren't horribly priced either. Mix per direction. Certain Klotz and Motul mixes also work very well when mixed in the proper ratios (per the equipment requirement) if you don't want to deal with the usual 2-cycle exhaust stink.

Stihl use to have a promo where if you'd bought a case of their HP Ultra synthetic oil with a new piece of equipment they'd double the warranty period so that's an obvious choice if that's a route someone goes-assuming that promo is still active.
 
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I dont understand the problem with 2 strokes. Why do people think they are so hard. I have a good sized yard with a big chain link fence. My trimmers uses less than a gallon a year. Fill the can with 1 gallon of gas, buy a bottle that gives you the proper mix in 1 dose, and I also use startron stabilizer. I have very few trimmer problems. I have more trouble with my snowblower and lawnmower. ( those also get premium gas and startron stabilizer) To me it seems the oil helps keep the gas longer and the carbs from gumming up. I even had an old lawnboy mower that always ran.......It just didnt bag well enough for me to want to keep it.
 

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I'm interested, but probably not when I hear the price.

You'll have to check a dealer. There are two charger options; one being quite a bit more expensive than the other. For residential use, I don't see how it would make much of a difference.

If I recall correctly, I believe the trimmer, charger, and battery added up to the price of a nice gas trimmer.

That said...

Once you go electric, you won't ever want to go back.

That Black and Decker I bought is the best thing that's ever happened to my yard and my sanity. I've got a nice, proper Echo. I hate that damned thing.

People don't think when making suggestions. The two cycle models like to be run very frequently, and for long periods of time. They are also very picky when it comes to fuel; damn what the manufacturer says.

Those who run the things every day will have nothing bad to say about them; and indeed mine is useful when I'm clearing some of my land once or twice a year. Around the yard, though? It's terrible.

It's like hopping in the car after filling the tank with spare fuel cans to go to a store that's 100 feet away. It's just plain stupid.

Now we've got a better option. I'm all about big engines. I recently rebuilt a chainsaw that most people couldn't crank if their life depended on it. My mower is a diesel Kubota. I really enjoy stuff like that.

I'm not some wussy yuppie making the cordless electric suggestion.

I'm telling you that these things are entirely relevant. Going electric for such use, at this point, is not a compromise. It's an improvement. It is the biggest leap forward that anyone could take in home lawn care.

Seriously. When you pull it off the wall, walk outside, and pull the trigger, you'll immediately "get it". That's all it takes. Pull the trigger, and it goes. You don't even need hearing protection.

If you don't believe me, go to a dealer, and ask them to let you try one. Play around with it for a bit. Then, go home, and screw around with a normal trimmer...

You'll want to strangle the entire industry for not thinking of this sooner.
 
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Once you go electric, you won't ever want to go back.

Yeah. I bought the 20v B&D trimmer myself. I even got the silly attachment for "mowing", its decent for touchups.

For a trimmer, cordless is awesome. I still went gas buying a new chainsaw though, and my riding mower I don't see being decent in electric anytime soon either.
 

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I'll bring forth two more points, here:

1: The noise issue is a big deal. Most trimmers are loud as hell. You should be wearing hearing protection. You'll also be annoying the hell out of your neighbors. These electric units; even the Stihl, are more than tolerable.

2: I know not everyone is overly concerned about air quality. That said, two cycle engines are pretty damned nasty. Even the most headstrong of us will have to admit that.

Aside from a slightly higher entry price (a problem which can be solved by a couple more weeks of saving), there aren't really any drawbacks to an electric model.

You'll have more free time, less mess, and and a nearly complete lack of frustration when it comes to trimming. Your neighbors will really be thankful for the change in noise levels. The Earth will smile, that Native American will stop crying, and more importantly, you can tell hot hippie chicks that you've gone green.:thumbup:
 

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Yeah. I bought the 20v B&D trimmer myself. I even got the silly attachment for "mowing", its decent for touchups.

For a trimmer, cordless is awesome. I still went gas buying a new chainsaw though, and my riding mower I don't see being decent in electric anytime soon either.

Well, I've got my gas chainsaws, sure enough; Stihl, Jonsered, and Echo. When I finally grab the Stihl electric setup, though, I foresee far less use of those things.

That little Black and Decker I've got is nice, and it's versatile when you really give it the beans, but the Stihl... Those things are bad as all hell.

It's like going from a Black and Decker drill to a Panasonic.

I just bought my B&D just to see whether or not I liked the cordless electric thing before I sprung for the Stihl. I've used others, as well. Most of the cheap ones are essentially the same thing, just with different housings.
 
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That little Black and Decker I've got is nice, and it's versatile when you really give it the beans, but the Stihl... Those things are bad as all hell.

I appreciate your input on electric, but most models I've researched are for people under 6 feet tall. I will go to a Stihl dealer and hope I don't have to stoop like I did with a B&D model I bought online and ended up donating. The B&D was cheap so it didn't hurt too much, but if were talking $300+, it better fit like a glove.

At $300+ if the battery powered Stihl doesn't measure up, then there's Honda which from what I've read is pretty quiet and the 4-stroke might help the enviro.
 

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I'm a power equipment mechanic for a Redmax/Stihl dealer. I've been working on small engines for over 20 years, and my other mechanics have far far more experience than I do in one hand.

DO NOT buy any trimmer from Lowes of Home Depot if you want it to last regardless of brand. Once a company makes an agreement with a box store the line they have there is a redesigned for profit series - with significantly cheaper parts which means longevity goes in the toilet.
I've worked on Husqvarna trimmers from Lowes - the starter pawls are total junk, nothing like the real Husky sold at a real dealer. Echo used to be a top line commercial product. Yeah, those saying they bought one 10, 12, 15 years ago bought a great product... that's not the Echo of today. Parts are almost non existent, and when parts are available it's not cost effective to put a $90 carb on a $150 (not including labor). Same for Ryobi, Poulan, Weedeater, Craftsman.... Redmax is owned by Husqvarna... it is a relaunched Tanaka or shindaiwa (I can never remember which). It's good stuff, but more expensive than Stihl. Troybuilt are marginal - we repair a fair amount of them and parts are available, but they are not the Stihl/Husky quality level.

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This sounds like a Stihl mechanic talking. Sorry, my experience is quite different. .

I have two Lowes bought Husqvarna string trimmers that I have run the **** out of. I have a Husky chainsaw that runs like a champ. All of them start easy and run strong, and have for a few years.

The straight shaft 2 stroke Husky string trimmer they sell for about $220 at Lowes is a great trimmer. I think it's a 323L It won the"string trimmer shootout" a few years ago - I think in popular mechanics and and one other, so I know I'm not the only one who likes them.

Sorry to say, but I'm less impressed with Stihl. I have a three year old Stihl "professional" blower - BG86, that is hard to start and is literally falling apart after fairly light use. Every piece of Stihl equipment I have owned is harder to start than anything else I own. Parts are pretty expensive from the dealer. .I will admit that most stihl dealers know their stuff, but I'm just not seeing that they are any better than other brands.
 

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The Stihl dealer near me tried to screw me on a simple chain saw tune up. I had to call the police to get them to be fair about it so I could get my chain saw back. Afterward, it didn't work anyway. I wrote a letter to Stihl about it and was ignored.

So I bought an Echo at HD and love it. It works better than the Stihl ever did.

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Well I just spent the day at 2 dealers and got the scoop.

Stihl is powerful but considered a commercial use and toss product. LCO's get back their investment many times over so if they have to get a new one every couple years, it's no big deal. When I told the dealers it was for home use, I was directed to the Echo brand, but was told Echo will not warranty the carb. When I asked about the Shindaiwa, they said it was a heavier version of the Echo.

Being 6-2 I went looking for something that I can use without bending much. Stihl and Kawasaki was too short, the Echo was close but the best might be a Hitachi (but can't be found anywhere).

The Hitachi/Tanaka is 1.3" longer than Echo and has a 7 year warranty, but I can't find anyone that stocks them to try it out. Then who repairs if I have a problem inside the warranty? I don't mind fixing/rebuilding it myself, but that would kill the warranty. My previous experience with a Hitachi nail gun was not good, so if anyone has one of these trimmers please tell me your experience with it. The other bad side is their attachments cost 20-40% more than Echo.

Can't find a Honda either to try it out and I can't find the shaft length online, but if it has the same shaft as the Husky 224L at Lowes, then it's too short for me anyway.

Tough decision:
Echo 59" shaft #PAS-225SB or Hitachi 60.3" shaft #CG22EADSLP
 
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Aside from a slightly higher entry price (a problem which can be solved by a couple more weeks of saving), there aren't really any drawbacks to an electric model.

Main drawback for me is they are not made for taller folks. I was eyeballing the 40v B&D but the shaft length is only 52" and I need closer to 60".
 

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I think it's a 323L It won the"string trimmer shootout" a few years ago - I think in popular mechanics and and one other, so I know I'm not the only one who likes them.

Those reviews are worthless for testing longevity precisely because that's what isn't tested. My brother bought a cub cadet mower based on consumer reports and the thing was quite the piece of junk after 2 years that developed a notorious compression problem common to that particular engine. It wasn't built to be repaired either. Engine components sold in assemblies, drive components assembled with permanent thread locker and not made to be disassembled. Point is, there is value when new, and value down the road. They are not the same thing.

I'll take a passable piece of equipment that will last for 10 years over some "value of the year!" one that will end up in the dumpster in 3.

The Hitachi/Tanaka is 1.3" longer than Echo and has a 7 year warranty, but I can't find anyone that stocks them to try it out. Then who repairs if I have a problem inside the warranty? I don't mind fixing/rebuilding it myself, but that would kill the warranty.

Other than the head there isn't much that could break. No-starts/poor running are generally fuel issues and are on the customer unless that particular dealer just likes doing good will repairs. Don't expect a free supply of carburetors for the warranty period.

Buy something disposable, or buy something premium that will have parts support for many years. Warranty would be secondary to this, at least for me.
 
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I have had Stihls for the last 20 years. They have served me well and are reasonably priced. Good parts availability if needed.
 
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I have had Stihls for the last 20 years. They have served me well and are reasonably priced. Good parts availability if needed.

Not made for my height though. Echo is the closest, but would like to try a Hitachi and a Honda. Does anyone have either and is 6-2 or taller?
 

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This sounds like a Stihl mechanic talking. Sorry, my experience is quite different. .

I have two Lowes bought Husqvarna string trimmers that I have run the **** out of. I have a Husky chainsaw that runs like a champ. All of them start easy and run strong, and have for a few years.

The straight shaft 2 stroke Husky string trimmer they sell for about $220 at Lowes is a great trimmer. I think it's a 323L It won the"string trimmer shootout" a few years ago - I think in popular mechanics and and one other, so I know I'm not the only one who likes them.

Sorry to say, but I'm less impressed with Stihl. I have a three year old Stihl "professional" blower - BG86, that is hard to start and is literally falling apart after fairly light use. Every piece of Stihl equipment I have owned is harder to start than anything else I own. Parts are pretty expensive from the dealer. .I will admit that most stihl dealers know their stuff, but I'm just not seeing that they are any better than other brands.

To be honest - I've been working for this place about 6 months - not partial to them personally, just what I'm seeing first hand fixing all these brands (and I don't actually fix most of the Stihl since we have a stihl gold level mechanic on staff).
I've also had lengthy conversations with another local shop who is a Husky dealer about many issues, especially on brands we formally didn't service, like Husky and Echo.

Open up the pull start on a Lowes Husky and compare it to the pull start in your chainsaw - big difference and it will be obvious. that ought to give you an idea of how much they cheapen certain designs for the big boxes. If you read the professionals forums for the industries (tree work, landscaping, etc) you'll find out what holds up and what doesn't as well as what models are pro line and which are home owner line for every maker.
Was actually leaning toward a Husky saw and a Ryobi trimmer set to replace my McCulloch PM610 and other Rybi trimmer before I started working in the industry. also for full disclosure, I own quite a few trimmers and chain saws (and mini tillers) - ryobi (6-7), Mcculloch (60's, 80's), Homelite (80's) - just bought my first Stihl (fs45 trimmer) from a coworker who didn't want his extended family "borrowing" it and didn't need it since his brother thought a Troybuilt was better and wanted to use it instead.

Every dealer is different - we are all independent stores and businesses that carry Stihl, or Redmax, or pro grade Husky (or tanaka, shindiawa, etc) and the unscrupulous actions of an individual are not a reflection on anything other than that individual.

you also have to take the PM reviews and awards with a grain of salt. Most magazines are limited in scope, knowledge, depth, and scientific knowledge and method when doing these tests - Consumer Reports especially despite their well known status falls victim to those pitfalls often and most readers don't pick up on it or the article is written such they are know letting you know.
That said - I also own and have worked my 2nd gen Dodge Ram diesel pickup since I got it (2nd owner at 2 years old) and have not experienced the same issues, or the issues to the same degree as many other owners who were on the forums and net when they were current model trucks. Does everyone who plows snow actually know how to plow snow? - no, just like many who work in construction have no clue what they're doing, same with many auto repair shops... that factors in as well as the loudest comments people hear are always complaints (because happy people are usually quiet where unhappy people complain) all factor into YMMV.
I'm just trying to provide input from many hours participating in serious professional forums (lawnsite/plowsite/arborsite, etc), working on said machines as a hobby and for a living, and talking to and learning from others who do and have been working on these things for a living - several of who have been doing so longer than I have been alive.
No matter what anyone here says the op, like the rest of us, must make up his/her own mind.
 
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Thanks everyone for the input, I found out the Honda has a 57" shaft length so that's out.

BTW, today I bought a Echo 266 PAS from a local vendor, Kendall Lawn for under $400 otd regular price - I hope it doesn't go on sale anytime soon to avoid kicking myself. But he did not carry any fuel mix so later I did go to HD and got TruFuel and Echo oil.

I'm wondering which is the best way to go on this. Start with the synthetic TruFuel or Echo Oil + E0, or can they be switched back and forth?

In cars I understood that once you switch to synthetic it's not recommended to switch back to regular oil, is this true with 2-cycle engines?
 
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I'm wondering which is the best way to go on this. Start with the synthetic TruFuel or Echo Oil + E0, or can they be switched back and forth?
I started with TruFuel (dealer gave me a couple of cans free with it, and I bought another 2). Once I went through those, I just mixed my own as it's a lot cheaper (ethanol free gas + decent 2 cycle oil).

Not aware of issues with switching back and forth, so long as the mix is right for the engine.
 
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