Need suggestions on plumbing

[STICandy]

So a couple years ago I put hot and cold water into the garage and ran the pipes along the concrete walls to a utility faucet at the front.


Fast forward to now with the garage in full swing my plan was to put furring strips on the concrete wall with rigid insulation between them and drywall right to the floor. What should I do with these pipes?

ANY help would be appreciated!

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[38 Dodge Coupe]

Well it kind of depends on what part of the country you live in and whether or not the temp gets below freezing.

If it never is even a remote possibility of freezing, then furring strips could work or I would just put split foam pipe insulation around the pipes to protect them and leave them exposed.

 

[couch67]

STICandy,

where are you located, do you see below freezing temperatures (is that pink shovel for shoveling snow, or is it a dust pan? Even if you heat it, you need to be careful with plumbing in the garage.

If this isn't a concern for you, I'd put the plumbing in the wall for mechanical protection. If you plan to keep it exposed, I'd re-run the section that comes from the house closer to the wall so it isn't sticking out so much.

couch

 

[493mike]

You could rerun these lines inside a small bulkhead. I am a retired plumber and have become a real fan of PEX (new Pert seems even better). I hated to see the demise of copper as it actually required some skill to install, but time marches on.
Mike

 

[STICandy]

Well it kind of depends on what part of the country you live in and whether or not the temp gets below freezing.

If it never is even a remote possibility of freezing, then furring strips could work or I would just put split foam pipe insulation around the pipes to protect them and leave them exposed.

STICandy,

where are you located, do you see below freezing temperatures (is that pink shovel for shoveling snow, or is it a dust pan? Even if you heat it, you need to be careful with plumbing in the garage.

If this isn't a concern for you, I'd put the plumbing in the wall for mechanical protection. If you plan to keep it exposed, I'd re-run the section that comes from the house closer to the wall so it isn't sticking out so much.

couch

I live in Ontario Canada. So obviously there is a freezing temperatures here. This is why I originally built the plumbing with the air line hook up and shutoffs at the wall. I turn the water off at the wall and hook my air line up to the pipes and blow it all out through the faucet.

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[Kaizen]

if it were me i'd cut out that copper and put pex through those studs like you would run electrical. gonna be a pain to box in that pipe on concrete.

 

[STICandy]

if it were me i'd cut out that copper and put pex through those studs like you would run electrical. gonna be a pain to box in that pipe on concrete.

OK. I'll look into what it's gonna take tonight.

Do you need to insulate pex?

Thanks for the suggestions everyone!

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[Falcon67]

PEX will freeze - it does seem to survive it as my daughter's house and the house next door both have PEX lines that the builders ran exposed in the attics in a way that lets them freeze in the once in a while cold we call "winter". IMHO, I'd cover them in foam insulation inside the wall.

 

[STICandy]

PEX will freeze - it does seem to survive it as my daughter's house and the house next door both have PEX lines that the builders ran exposed in the attics in a way that lets them freeze in the once in a while cold we call "winter". IMHO, I'd cover them in foam insulation inside the wall.

Can I trust pex to be placed in the wall with the foam insulation? It's kinda a one shot deal with spray foam.

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[Falcon67]

Every new house around these parts uses PEX in the walls, run like Romex. I'd talk to locals in your climate - if it's 20F here for very long we all go sunbathe down on Padre Island. In the last 20 years here, the longest I remember being below 32F daily was about 5~6 days.

 

[Kaizen]

Can I trust pex to be placed in the wall with the foam insulation? It's kinda a one shot deal with spray foam.

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Of course it will freeze same as copper. It's just so easy to run through studs. I remember a thread on here where someone was running pipe through I insulated space and someone said to use a heat tape of some sort. Not the roof kind. The foam I would just put a 2x under the pipe a couple inches between joists and something on the front. Squirt the foam the encapsulate it. Prob get four bays out of one can.
Pex doesn't burst like copper but it also ***** to thaw as you can't just put a conductive heater on it or a blowtorch


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